Wine Quality and tastes

Yes. I can tell if a Tempranillo is well-made by its structure, even though the composition is not one of my favorites.

I can tell Crystal Gayle is a very talented singer even though I don't like the sound quality of her voice.

I answered no although I do think it is somewhat possible, just more difficult. My preconceptions tend to color my gut reaction, which is very important in wine as is it with most sensation. But maybe that's just me.

Anyone who is a good judge of wine will always try and put their personal likes and dislikes aside when looking at a wine.

A lot of the assessment of wine revolves around the structure, so as long as you can get that right, you are well on the way there.

I appreciate the responses. I will get back to this in due time.

No trouble determining a quality wine, whether it's 'to my taste' or not.

As long as it has a pretty label

Would your response to the poll change if instead it read:

Is it reasonable to say "I really liked that wine, but I can tell it is of a low quality."

If you answered yes originally: The implication if you say "yes it would change" is that you ONLY like good quality wine. If you say "no it wouldn't change" means you SOMETIMES like low quality wine.

If you answered no originally: The implication if you say "yes it would change" is that you SOMETIMES like low quality wine. If you say "no it wouldn't change" means you like ALL good quality wine.

It's unfortunate that I can't respond with another poll and I can't justify starting a new post, so if you would kindly respond?

Yes sometimes, to your original question always. No always, to your second question on Fridays when it's a full moon, otherwise no sometimes to both questions - though always assuming that we're talking about high quality wines that I didn't like, or low quality wines that my wife didn't like, but that the critics gave a score of over 90.

If that doesn't make sense, I usually just drink the whole bottle, and everything becomes clear.

Consider the following thought experiment:

Joe is a reputable wine critic. Steve is an average person who differs only because he has never had a glass of wine, never read a book about wine, doesn't even know what wine is.

There are two rooms isolated from each other and from society. Joe is tossed in one room and Steve into the other. We give them each a glass of wine everyday for 10 years. When we let them out, we sit them down side by side and pour them a glass each to taste.

Question 1: Do you think Joe's perception of quality differs from Steve's?

Question 2: If you answered "yes" to Q1, whose perception do you think is better?

Question 3: If we asked Joe "What do you think about the quality?" Do you think his response is solely dependent on whether he liked it or not?

Question 4: If we asked Steve "What do you think about the quality?" Do you think his response is solely dependent on whether he like it or not?

Question 5: Suppose there are no Joes in this world and only Steves. Fast forward 8000 years. Do you think our perception of quality will be the same as Joe's today?

I appreciate any thoughts you may wish to share.

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Originally posted by WEc:

I appreciate any thoughts you may wish to share.

I thought I looked a bit tired in the bathroom mirror this morning, and maybe I have a few more grey hairs in my three day growth.


As for Joe and Steve, try the experiment with Joe receveing two hundred volts to his scrotum each time he sips wine X, and Steve receiving a back massage from naked virgins each time he sips wine Y. In 8000 years, transplant their cryopreserved brains into chimpanzees, make a blend of wine XY, drink it, then head on a one way trip to Mars.

It is possible for some, maybe many but not for me. If I do not like the wine, the best of that kind will still be unpleasant to me.

Aussie, dude...TOO FUNNY!!!

(I sound like an old geezer here in the kitchen trying not to laugh too loud so as to wake the baby!)

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Originally posted by chaad:
Aussie, dude...TOO FUNNY!!!

(I sound like an old geezer here in the kitchen trying not to laugh too loud so as to wake the baby!)

All I did was fart after reading it....Mars travel is not appealing to me in my lifetime!

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I appreciate any thoughts you may wish to share.

Canadian thoughts cause confusion..come up with a more intelligent thought many more can assist.

Absolutely. With the caveat that it has to be something (style, grape, region, etc) you are familiar with. Because I have had a lot of red Bordeaux with other people and have discussed the wines with other people, I can tell when a bottle is good or great. Or, to put it another way, I can tell when someone who likes Bordeaux will like a wine, or love a wine, or even think it absolutely fantastic, even though, with the exception of a handful of producers, I'm not a big fan of the region.

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Originally posted by WEc:
Would your response to the poll change if instead it read:

Is it reasonable to say "I really liked that wine, but I can tell it is of a low quality."

If you answered yes originally: The implication if you say "yes it would change" is that you ONLY like good quality wine. If you say "no it wouldn't change" means you SOMETIMES like low quality wine.

If you answered no originally: The implication if you say "yes it would change" is that you SOMETIMES like low quality wine. If you say "no it wouldn't change" means you like ALL good quality wine.

It's unfortunate that I can't respond with another poll and I can't justify starting a new post, so if you would kindly respond?

I sometimes don't like high quality wines, but I always don'tlike low quality wines.

However, there are certainly times when I have liked a wine more than my score suggested.

For example, I am partial to great Burgundy in the DRC/Dujac style. So if you see a 93.5 from me on one you can be assured I *loved* the wine and would personally prefer it to a wine of a different style from a different region that I rated a point higher.