Wine Glass

hi spo1977,

first question is, what do you drink?

the general wine glass dos not exist!

if you do tasteings you would need to sip always from the same glass, because diffenrent glasses show the same wine different.

riedel certain is a good glass.
schott-zwiesel diva is cheaper and more stable, but also less good.

if you once have understood that for enjoying a certian wine you have to use a "compenation glass", that meens if you drink high acid wines you should go for a glass that has a straight or going a litle outside "hole" i meen were you tuch the glass with youre mouth.
if you like fruity wines with low acidity you should get a glass with a hole that go's inside.

the sweeter the wine = the steeper inside the hole
the more acid = the more it go's outside.

the better and bigger and younger the wine the bigger the glass.
the older and less good the smaller the glass.

now it's up to you.

(sorry for my english, but it isn't sufficient to explain all that, i would like)

Tsunami,

My favorites are the Justin Cabernet and Justification. I like Cabernet Sauvugnon, Syrah, Cahrdonay and Savignon Blanc. I like Reisling but it is a little too sweet. I heard Trimbach is dry
so that is the next Reisling I will purchase. I like acidic wines and I like fruit. I just do not like wine that is too sweet.

To be honest I am still trying to figure out what I like. Reds are hit or miss while I find whites to be a sure thing.

I appreciate the advice, I will reference it when I make my purchase.

P.S. Your English is fine, you should see my Spanish.

I found a pretty good deal on some spieglau glasses on Overstock.com. I bought their white burgandy, Burgandy, and Bordeaux glasses, and they do just fine at home.

I like to use those cowboy boot shaped glasses I bought at the swap meet.

I don't know if they help, but I love the look on my guest's faces when I pour them a Kisler in it with ice.

At the very least you should buy some decent bordeaux and burgundy glasses.

gigond ass,

kistler, such a cheap wine zhzhzhz....

It's pretty good for Cali Chard and the Pinot is top notch new world stuff.

You come to SoCal tsunami and I'll break out the good stuff (cuvee's).

Or if you are really good, I'll break out some Mr. K sweeties and we will eat foie until our hearts stop.

I have the Riedel Vinum Series Bordeaux and Chardonnay glasses. They're great. You can definitely tell the difference compared to cheaper/thicker glasses.

b squad

you're absolutly right!
that is the reason i have riedel's sommelier

the older sommelier were even thinner!

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Originally posted by redwine&redsox:
I found a pretty good deal on some spieglau glasses on Overstock.com. I bought their white burgandy, Burgandy, and Bordeaux glasses, and they do just fine at home.

They also make a good Red and White glass that you can find on Amazon.com or most anywhere.

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Originally posted by B Squad:
I have the Riedel Vinum Series Bordeaux and Chardonnay glasses. They're great. You can definitely tell the difference compared to cheaper/thicker glasses.

I think I am going to take your reccomendation as my starting point. It is not like a chardonnay glass will destroy other white wines is it? Thanks.

After attending one of Riedel's fabulous demonstrations of the effect of stemware on wine, I looked around at the tables littered with glasses and asked Georg if he had a favorite, multipurpose shape that he brings on his travels. His answer? The Chianti/Zinfandel shape.

Now you know what I use at home -- though I must admit to using specific shapes when I break out top bottles of Pinot Noir, Riesling, Cab and bubbly.

Well, I use my Chardonnay glasses for all whites (Riesling, Sauvignon Blanc, etc.) and it seems fine to me.

Oh yeah, for bubbly you should get special glasses. The tall, narrow glasses are the way to go.

Riedel Vinum Extreme is what I use at home. I know Riedel bought out Spigelau and it also cost less, but I don't think they are close to the Riedels.

How are those stemless O glasses. The people on Amazon gave them good ratings. They said they were comparable to Vinum. Antone have any experience with these.

I bought couple of Riedel Os in Phoenix as I wasn't sure about the stems at the off-line I was attending.
They are Vinum without stem and a flat bottom.

Haven't used them since I got back except for the one time I am short on glasses.

Nice glass, but the finger prints are annoying. Harder to break since there is no stem, so tipping over and breaking won't be an issue.

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Originally posted by pyang:
I bought couple of Riedel Os in Phoenix as I wasn't sure about the stems at the off-line I was attending.
They are Vinum without stem and a flat bottom.

Haven't used them since I got back except for the one time I am short on glasses.

Nice glass, but the finger prints are annoying. Harder to break since there is no stem, so tipping over and breaking won't be an issue.

I always thought the "O" glasses looked cool and I would love to have them but I agree, I think the finger prints would drive me nuts. I can't handle glasses that look dirty. It is one of my pet peeves.

Jason

My husband and I are both in the retail
wine biz. We have always used reidal at home and at work. Several years ago, a guy was trying to sell me some Sto Oberglas. He gave me samples of the chianti/zin and sauv blanc
glasses. I came home and poured equal amounts of a freshly opened bottle of Elyse Montessouri
into each glass and tasted. I couldn't believe that there would be such a difference, especially because I knew what I had done. So I satarted over with equal pours and took them into my husband and said "here, try these." He took several tastes and said "well this is a zin but I'm not sure what this one is." We always knew that we were doing the correct thing by drinking out of a proper glass but until we did the "blind" test, it just proved all of our beliefs. (sub-note) I have never used another brand of high-end glass so I can not say anything to their behalf.

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Originally posted by spo1977:
How are those stemless O glasses. The people on Amazon gave them good ratings. They said they were comparable to Vinum. Antone have any experience with these.

Haven't found anything better than the O when your out on the boat! Very stable.

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Originally posted by spo1977:
How are those stemless O glasses. The people on Amazon gave them good ratings. They said they were comparable to Vinum. Antone have any experience with these.

the turley tasting room gives these out as your tasting souvenir, so i have a few of them. useless, unless everything else is dirty. or as stated above, you are on a boat. which i am not. much.

At home, we have Riedel and other brands around. Different glasses for the various (but not all) varietals. I've been using the Spiegelau Authentis "all purpose" glasses for tastings. (My recollection is that a set of six was less than $40.) Don't make for a good champagne flute, but other than that, they seem all right.

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Originally posted by The Schoolmarm:
After attending one of Riedel's fabulous demonstrations of the effect of stemware on wine, I looked around at the tables littered with glasses and asked Georg if he had a favorite, multipurpose shape that he brings on his travels. His answer? The Chianti/Zinfandel shape.

Now you know what I use at home -- though I must admit to using specific shapes when I break out top bottles of Pinot Noir, Riesling, Cab and bubbly.

I concur the exact same considerations, ‘Marm. The “Chianti/Zinfandel” is my shelf full for everything, too.

Though I also have the “Bigges” for my top shelf goodies.. Something about that big glass rounds out the experience. And yes there is a noticeable difference between glasses–fun to play with–just to perceive the differences.

Cheers,

Got some Cabernet/Merlot Reidel O Glasses. I did not think it would make a difference but I enjoy drinking red out of a wider glass. I think I am going to buy 2 of each varitel specific Reidel O Glass for a nice quality glass to share a nice bottle with a friend.

I am also going to buy some cheap general purpose Libby white and red tumblers in case I decide to serve wine to more than 4 people at one time.

Reidel is worth your money!! I saw the Reidel Vivant style in Target recently. You can try a set for an inexpensive cost but I would never buy more than 4 or each type - You WILL want a set of each type if you are serious about your wine. (Check out amazon.com, they sell Reidel too)

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Originally posted by benzbaby:
Reidel is worth your money!! I saw the Reidel Vivant style in Target recently. You can try a set for an inexpensive cost but I would never buy more than 4 or each type - You WILL want a set of each type if you are serious about your wine. (Check out amazon.com, they sell Reidel too)

The "O" glasses are the exact same price but they are based on the Vinum design. I suspect they are better. If you do not mind going stemless (I don't)that is.

I did order a set of the stemless cab's. I just wonder if I can hold onto them after several sips....

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Originally posted by shoeman:
My husband and I are both in the retail
wine biz. We have always used reidal at home and at work. Several years ago, a guy was trying to sell me some Sto Oberglas. He gave me samples of the chianti/zin and sauv blanc
glasses. I came home and poured equal amounts of a freshly opened bottle of Elyse Montessouri
into each glass and tasted. I couldn't believe that there would be such a difference, especially because I knew what I had done. So I satarted over with equal pours and took them into my husband and said "here, try these." He took several tastes and said "well this is a zin but I'm not sure what this one is." We always knew that we were doing the correct thing by drinking out of a proper glass but until we did the "blind" test, it just proved all of our beliefs. (sub-note) I have never used another brand of high-end glass so I can not say anything to their behalf.

I've never compared glassware. That's interesting; I'll have to try it.

The Reidel O are a concern to me, as they are sure to excessively warm the wine by holding the glass that way, since there is not a stem to hold. Years ago, I had red and white wine glasses. Then I realized my "red" glasses where actually Burgundy. It was then that I ventured into Reidel and bought the Bordeaux glasses, in addition to several others. It did make a difference, a big one. Possibly because I was using a VERY wrong glass before. Reidel has factory seconds, which you can find on Amazon, for half price or so.

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The Reidel O are a concern to me, as they are sure to excessively warm the wine by holding the glass that way, since there is not a stem to hold.

I don't hold it where the liquid is, they work great.

We have the Riedel O glasses and they are great. They feel nice in your hand and without a stem they take up much less vertical shelf space (allowing you to add a shelf and add more glasses!) I was concerned about how thin they were. I was sure that I would break them within a week; but they are durable. You never worry about them tipping over and you hold the glass above the level of the wine so that it doesn't warm. For those who are annoyed by fingerprints... I have no answer, they will get printy; but that doesn't seem to bother us.
We have a set of the viogner/chard, riesling/sauv. blanc, cab/merlot and pinot/nebbiolo (and still adding). I enjoy them immensely.

All this talk about wine glasses is making me wonder about how big a difference there really is between something like a reidel and a cheaper version of the same kind of wine glass? Since I mainly drink bordeaux and cabs the wine glasses I use have pretty much the same shape and size of the reidel style for said wines but at a much lower cost. So I ask those of you who are experienced in wine to please educate me and let me know what the difference really is.

Thanks

Hey Steve,
I don't think the price of the glass is the problem (I could be wrong) as long as it is the proper shape to enhance the qualities of each type of wine. Do you have an ipod or get itunes on your computer? There is a podcast called The Oz Wine Show. The host had the VP of Riedel glass on episode #5. They discussed the importance of glass shape with aromas and flavor, and how the rolled rim of less expensive glasses (vs. the "flat" rim on the Riedel glasses) made the wine hit the incorrect area of the tongue, etc. I realize that it's this guy's job to talk up his product... I'm not a total lemming. I just wanted stemless glasses and they were the only ones I could easily find. It could all be a bunch of hooey, though. If you've been enjoying your wine all along in your current glasses, then more power to you!

p.s. If you get itunes see if you can find that podcast. It is episode #5.

Our Bordeaux "O" we use everyday. No problem holding on to them and we just run them through the dishwasher with no problem. We also use these for water glasses when we have guests. I've got an assortment of Riedel stems for other things. I purchased Bordeaux's and Port glasses (the latter I found on sale at the local wine warehouse) and my family has been making us "gifts" of other varieties when they can't find anything more imaginitve to give us.

I believe we now have the bordeaux, chianti/zin, syrah, and port in the collection.

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Originally posted by Ron Natalie:
Our Bordeaux "O" we use everyday. No problem holding on to them and we just run them through the dishwasher with no problem. We also use these for water glasses when we have guests. I've got an assortment of Riedel stems for other things. I purchased Bordeaux's and Port glasses (the latter I found on sale at the local wine warehouse) and my family has been making us "gifts" of other varieties when they can't find anything more imaginitve to give us.

I believe we now have the bordeaux, chianti/zin, syrah, and port in the collection.

Ron Natalie -- I'm sorry, this is off topic for this current thread; but in Wine Conversations on the thread "Where do you buy your wine?" I asked you a specific question. It was an old post and you probably haven't looked back at it lately -- but I would love an answer since we live in the same area. Thanks!

I just got a pair of Riedel Vinum Brunello glasses. First off, these glasses are huge. The wine glasses I was using are probably more of a chardonay glass. The first thing I noticed when using these glasses is difference of how much nose you get when drinking(not sure if that made sense). I smell the wine so much more now with these new glasses. The bowl(?) on these glasses is so much bigger that I think it traps the aroma of the wine so you smell it with each sip. Very cool glasses

The size and shape of each glass are designed specifically for the aroma/flavor and structure of the indicated varietal/blend. You'll find that Brunello wine will smell and taste different in different-shaped glasses.

Maximilian Riedel and I conducted a tasting last week -- and everyone was pretty amazed at the differences.

Gloria

I'll go ahead and disagree with you people saying the perfect glass doesn't exist. That may be true for serving and for getting the most out of a particular wine, but if you're serious about tasting you'll want to do so with uniform glasses, and the best on the market are the simple ISO glasses. Cheap, stable and reliable for tasting.

I wouldn't serve in them though, except for tastings.

I think you should try this new glass I just came across recently. It is a company called "Taste of Purple". They this great design that has a dimple in the side that aerates your wine by swirling. I bought a set just to try and it really made a difference! I will never go back to an ordinary glass. I actually did taste tests with my wine snob friends and they saw the difference too.

Nice first two posts. I know I appreciate your help. I'm going to buy all the Taste of Purple glasses I can find.