Wine Coolers

Are those simple 24-50 bottle wine fridges Ican buy at home depot the same as the more expensive thousand dollar units by eurocave or vinotemp? I mean could I store short term(1-3years) red wines in wine cooler fridge and keep the more expensive longer term wines in my professional unit(no pun intended)?

Curious
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Originally posted by mimik:
Are those simple 24-50 bottle wine fridges Ican buy at home depot the same as the more expensive thousand dollar units by eurocave or vinotemp? I mean could I store short term(1-3years) red wines in wine cooler fridge and keep the more expensive longer term wines in my professional unit(no pun intended)?



Curious


Typically the Vinotemps and Eurocaves have little to no vibration and don't fluctuate temp at all. The cheap-o's vary by a few degrees and vibrate when running. From everything I've heard, the cheap-o's are just fine for short term (1-3 you mentioned), but will ruin a wine over the long haul (10-20 years). Many of the high end will actually heat up too (if needed) to maintain proper temp (if you live in that climate).
I have two 12-bottle units by Edgestar, one for red and one for white. They use thermoelectric cooling units that have no vibration. They have small internal fans to keep the temperature evenly distributed which don't cause any appreciable vibration that I can notice. I have internal temp/humidity gauges and it looks like the temp stays within about a degree. They aren't humidity controlled, but I put a cup of water in each unit and the humidity stays about 65%, compared with 28% in my house. They also have tinted glass doors, LED internal lights and available teak wood shelves. The units come in 18 and 24 bottle units also. So far, so good for a fairly cheap introductory unit, short term storage.
I owned an Edgstar for 3 months. In acutality it looks a lot less classy than the enhanced pictures online. I initially thought that because of the thermoelectic cooling there would be no vibration but after 2 months or so i could feel the unit shudder noticeably to the touch, not wanting to take the risk I sold it on ebay and bought a Eurocave.
Thought I would share my experience with Wine Coolers...

I started with a cheap Danby model for 24 bottles, used it for many years. Still works, however it does have plenty of limitations...


  • 1. Because it's built like a standard fridge it tends to be noisy and vibrates when its running
  • 2. It does not have humidity control
  • 3. It can drop and rise in temperature easily by 5 degrees


So after using the Danby for 3 years, I decided to make an investment into a proper wine cooler. I ended up choosing Sub-Zero based on reviews and posts I read. Haven't been happier with my wine cooler I bought at Goemans... I can now trust it to keep my expensive bottles.

Wine Cooler checklist:

  • Cooling method; Thermoelectric, etc (you want one that will have minimal vibrations)
  • Glass Door? If so, ensure it has UV protection and double pane
  • Single vs multi temperature zones (your choice)
  • Humidity control (important for long term storage)


Hopefully this make-shift guide will help someone make a smart purchase.
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Originally posted by ChilledWine:

  • Single vs multi temperature zones (your choice)
  • Humidity control (important for long term storage)


First, single vs multi temp zones are complete BS. Just think about it for a minute. Do they have a fan blowing air throughout the unit? If they do, that air is moving throughout the unit. If they don't, then don't buy the unit - it's crap and won't maintain temperature throughout the unit.

Second, I do agree that humidity control is important (not all agree), but temperature control pushes humidity lower. All that's needed is an open container(s) of water (with sufficient surface area) within the unit to resupply the humidity. Some may say it's not important, but so long as you don't spill it, it certainly won't hurt anything.

Also, I hadn't seen the 'Bracket"LIST'EndBracket'...'Bracket'/LIST'EndBracket'" before, so thanks for that! Smile
The issue of humidity is very confusing. No wine coolers/cellars can truly control humidity unless they have a water feed and none that I've ever seen has this feature. Even very expensive Eurocave units cannot ADD humidity.

I got a Marvel professional unit and the build quality is excellent. Whether it cellars wine properly, only 20 years will tell.
I think people worry too much about humidity. It's not like the wine is out baking in the Sahara desert. I've had a Vinoteque for 20 years. Works fine. And stored wine in my cellar with a tricked out AC unit. Worked fine. Never added any humidity anywhere.

But seriously, when it comes to wine coolers, the only guys you need to know are these two:

Wine Coolers
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Originally posted by Mimik:
Are those simple 24-50 bottle wine fridges Ican buy at home depot the same as the more expensive thousand dollar units by eurocave or vinotemp? I mean could I store short term(1-3years) red wines in wine cooler fridge and keep the more expensive longer term wines in my professional unit(no pun intended)?

Curious
Wine is a very special delicacly wrong temperature in your wine cooler could turn wine to vinegar, most people only by 1 or 2 bottles but true connoisseurs like to collect them and bring them out on special occasions, mix and match with meals. So I would just advise you be very careful with your choices and talk to a sales person on what you need.
You get what you pay for. If you buy a very cheap cooler from Home Depot, it will most likely give off plenty of unwanted vibrations. Definitely not good if you're trying to age fine wines.

http://winecoolers.reviews/

This website has plenty of information about the different kinds of wine coolers and what sets them apart. It's my go-to site for coolers.
I have an Avantgarde wine cooler that I bought from Best brand http://www.bestbrandappliance.ca/ http://www.bestbrandappliance.ca/ . It is 132-bottle capacity cooler.Its features includes electronic soft touch controls, a dual temperature zone for upper and lower zone and wood waver and metal shelves. It has 100% pull out ball bearing sliding shelves. It is freestanding and its door colour is stainless steel.
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Originally posted by melvinderby:
I have an Avantgarde wine cooler that I bought from Best brand http://www.bestbrandappliance.ca/ http://www.bestbrandappliance.ca/ . It is 132-bottle capacity cooler.Its features includes electronic soft touch controls, a dual temperature zone for upper and lower zone and wood waver and metal shelves. It has 100% pull out ball bearing sliding shelves. It is freestanding and its door colour is stainless steel.


Call me suspicious, but I'm leery of first posts with links to commercial enterprises. Tell us a little about yourself and your new wine cooler, Mel...

PH
Unless you have to have a built in smaller unit I'd recommend going larger. It seems very expensive. Triple temperature zone is a waste of money. Then there are these reviews on Amazon. All one star...

Incredibly loud, terrible design, and ugly. I replaced it with the similarly sized GE which is nearly silent.

Just purchased the 24 inch model 1024. It is incredibly noisy. It now has a cheap 12 volt fan! Furthermore it came with all these warnings that the refrigerant they now use is highly flammable! I am waiting to hear back from the Company. I wonder if there have been any kitchen fires/explosions with this new product?

A piece of junk, two years and the motor went out, lots of $ to repair, don't buy this brand, you will be sorry

PH
Thanks you PurpleHaze for all the advices. I will follow your tips to choose another wine cooler. I live in Ontario and I have a Goemans' store and they have some GE 24 inch model (like your). Can you send me the SKU of your wine cooler? I know it's a 2014 model, but maybe I can find a 2016 model in my store. Thank a lot Smile
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Unless you have to have a built in smaller unit I'd recommend going larger. It seems very expensive. Triple temperature zone is a waste of money. Then there are these reviews on Amazon. All one star...

Incredibly loud, terrible design, and ugly. I replaced it with the similarly sized GE which is nearly silent.

Just purchased the 24 inch model 1024. It is incredibly noisy. It now has a cheap 12 volt fan! Furthermore it came with all these warnings that the refrigerant they now use is highly flammable! I am waiting to hear back from the Company. I wonder if there have been any kitchen fires/explosions with this new product?

A piece of junk, two years and the motor went out, lots of $ to repair, don't buy this brand, you will be sorry

PH
I had one Uline 48 bottle unit that lasted me for 18 years. I liked it very much. I used it for my house with offsite storage for longer term bottles. They use to be made in the USA, not sure if they still are.
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Originally posted by SuperT:
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Originally posted by mimik:
Are those simple 24-50 bottle wine fridges Ican buy at home depot the same as the more expensive thousand dollar units by eurocave or vinotemp? I mean could I store short term(1-3years) red wines in wine cooler fridge and keep the more expensive longer term wines in my professional unit(no pun intended)?



Curious


Typically the Vinotemps and Eurocaves have little to no vibration and don't fluctuate temp at all. The cheap-o's vary by a few degrees and vibrate when running. From everything I've heard, the cheap-o's are just fine for short term (1-3 you mentioned), but will ruin a wine over the long haul (10-20 years). Many of the high end will actually heat up too (if needed) to maintain proper temp (if you live in that climate).


yes cheaper will give low time responce when compare to higher one

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