What vintage is Premier Cru delivering at the moment?

I have a few 2006's on the wait from Premier Cru and they keep postponing the delivery date. Last March I was told to call them in September. Of course, I have heard countless of other users here state how slow they are on their delivery. (However, they are reliable).

My question is: what vintage are they delivering at the moment? Are they still in 2005 or not even so?
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Still waiting for 2005 Palmer and Angelus ordered at the end of 2006. Repeatedly promised to be arriving soon; promises repeately unfulfilled. However, I did receive several other 2005's.

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Originally posted by wine+art:
My questions is, why would anyone order from Premier Cru anymore?


Some almost-too-good-to-be-true prices seem to warrant a small investment...such as some 2009 bdx that were less than 1/3 the price of what they are up here. Who knows if I will ever get them, but I did jump at the offer.
I have not ordered from PC in a couple of years now. Mostly due to my relocating to Montreal it just doesn't make sense.
While the bottle of d'Yquem has now been extraordinarily silly in length of time now waiting, I've never had them no deliver and most products came through within a year. I'd no issue with that.

If the price gap is large enough I can understand people biting. But I'd keep my 'outstanding receivables' risk very small indeed. For 95% of product/pricing the gap just doesn't warrent the wait. It's not the time waiting that bothers me. It's having to keep track of outstanding orders for that long. A real PIA.
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Originally posted by Vt2It:
This thread got me to check out their site, it's been awhile. 2006 Voerzio Barolo for $139.99! I don't care if I have to wait several years, where will you be able to find it anywhere near that price?
Yeah, that price got me too
I have no qualms about ordering from PC. They're not my #1 preference, but then again they never were. I know that there are often long wait-times, but I have yet to have an experience where I intended to drink the wine before they actually delivered it. Until they actually fail to come through on a commitment, I will happily save a few $ and wait.
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Originally posted by Vt2It:
This thread got me to check out their site, it's been awhile. 2006 Voerzio Barolo for $139.99! I don't care if I have to wait several years, where will you be able to find it anywhere near that price?

Yep. Some times it's just pretty damn difficult to resist the pricing on some items.
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Never dealt with them. Are you sure their business model isn't based on a pyramid? Perhaps you'll get your 2006's when enough people cough up the cash for the '09 futures?


Thats the first time I have heard anybody ask that question, except of course for the other 5,000 times it has been asked. Of course, it has also not been answered.
I have quite a few bottles that I ordered from PC. Some of them have arrived to the store, some not yet. But frankly, I'm not planning on opening any anytime soon so who cares if they don't have them yet? Everything I've got from them in the past and that I had to wait for a while has always been pristine and they always delivered. I see it as great prices and free storage to boot.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'm still waiting for an '04 d'Yquem I ordered January 30, 2007.

All other orders came through without much pain. But this one, I fear, I caught in the order death spiral. However, I've never had them not eventually deliver.

This thread prompted me to check my order status (you can do this on their site). It still was showing as back-ordered. So I contacted them for an order update. Received an email last evening informing me that my bottle is now in and ready to ship when the weather is appropriate.

That one took a looong time to show up...but it did show. Once again, PC delivered.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KSC02:
I'm still waiting for an '04 d'Yquem I ordered January 30, 2007.



That one took a looong time to show up...but it did show. Once again, PC delivered.



Good to hear, and I'm very confident the wine has been stored in the dark at 55 degrees all this time as well.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KSC02:
I'm still waiting for an '04 d'Yquem I ordered January 30, 2007.



That one took a looong time to show up...but it did show. Once again, PC delivered.



Good to hear, and I'm very confident the wine has been stored in the dark at 55 degrees all this time as well.


Big Grin

KSC02, have they really delivered yet or is this another stall tactic? Right now its too hot and then it will be too cold. I get why people buy from them due to pricing but I am very concerned about their business model in this economy.
I always chuckle when this topic comes up each year. There will always be the skeptics, the believers, and those that get frustrated when they don't get their wines within 2 years of their transaction. Hopefully, it won't come down to 'we told you so.'
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KSC02:
'04 d'Yquem I ordered January 30, 2007.

That one took a looong time to show up...but it did show. Once again, PC delivered.

Good to hear, and I'm very confident the wine has been stored in the dark at 55 degrees all this time as well.

Smile Being a Sauternes, I'm thinking that this particular item runs just under Port on the 'risk' chart.
However your comment is indeed valid, my pessimistic & sarcastic friend.
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Originally posted by jburman82:
KSC02, have they really delivered yet or is this another stall tactic? Right now its too hot and then it will be too cold.

I've never had PC tell me this and it not be the actual case.
Shipping temps/issues is another subject and I don't consider this an issue if sent out in October as I requested.
I have done one order with them with items they had in and no problems.

I tried to buy some Fevre wines but they kept pushing back delivery. They did credit my card back.

Their prices are average and can be beat by a ton of outlets.

As mentioned many times before, they are not worth working with and have to be the most unorganized major wine shop in the world.
In reference to 2003 Pavie Macquin 3L missing...

There was once a funny comment on eBob that someone posted. They were missing half btls of Bordeaux futures from PC...about 2 years or so late. They said that PC told them that the half btls were bottled later than everything else and that is why they were late delivering.

I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that!

And if anyone wants 2006 Voerzio near that price...let me know...it can be done!
My own experience related to my 2006 Bordeaux was that they were going to be ready now. I gave them a call. The people were really nice to me. However, my wine is not ready. This is the second target date which they had mentioned delivery and they miss. In addition to being nice, they should be honest too. I rather hear the truth upfront.

Of course, now I know the drill. Sadly for me, I did not know extensive wait when I made my order.

Speaking for myself now: will order from them again? Easy question: absolutely not.
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Originally posted by NY Retailer:

And if anyone wants 2006 Voerzio near that price...let me know...it can be done!


How near Dan? My daughter goes to school a couple of miles from your store so i am in your area occasionally. You probably don't remember but you once gave me direction from your shop to there. If you can come close it would be better to just pick them up than have them shipped cross country.
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Originally posted by Vt2It:
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Originally posted by NY Retailer:

And if anyone wants 2006 Voerzio near that price...let me know...it can be done!

How near Dan?...If you can come close it would be better to just pick them up than have them shipped cross country.

I may be interested in that as well, if it helps round out an order, Vt2It.
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Originally posted by joea:
Did finally get a '00 Bordeaux from them last year.


Eek Wow!!!!![/QUOTE]


If a bottle was selling for $300, and Premier Cru was selling it for $150, I would rather pay the $300 and know I was in control of the bottles provenance, than pay $150 and have a bottle cooking somewhere for 5 years without proper provenance.

I do not need any $150 bottles I would not even cook with.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
If a bottle was selling for $300, and Premier Cru was selling it for $150, I would rather pay the $300 and know I was in control of the bottles provenance, than pay $150 and have a bottle cooking somewhere for 5 years without proper provenance.

I do not need any $150 bottles I would not even cook with.

While it is true that one does not know the provenance of a bottle purchased through PC, this can be said of many items purchased through a retailer. Even using the established the auction houses you know nothing more than what they ambiguously describe (a fine gentlemen collector from the E Coast blah blah blah).

Bottom line is that you have to trust the retailer your purchasing/sourcing from. If you can't trust them, don't buy from them. That said, I've purchased a handful of bottles from PC and have not had one bottle show anything other than superbly. Regarding this, I feel compelled to fairly give them the credit they deserve.

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