What kind of dog do you have?

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Originally posted by indybob:

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Originally posted by Board-O:
What species [sic] do they use as junkyard dogs? Black labs?

What's the "[sic]" for? Did I make a mistake in my syntax or spelling?

2 requests:

1. Buy a pit bull

2. Put me on ignore for real this time, not like when you lied about it before. It must be clear to you I have no respect for you, your intelligence, honesty, or wine knowledge.

By the way Mensa, its the severity of injuries caused by pit bull attacks that are the major problem. Just how many dead and/or maimed children are acceptable to the pro pit bull contingent?

Just as I thought. No evidence, only foolishness and attacks.

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by indybob:

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Originally posted by Board-O:
What species [sic] do they use as junkyard dogs? Black labs?

What's the "[sic]" for? Did I make a mistake in my syntax or spelling?

A black lab is a breed, not a species.

Eyes on the prize guys. While you're busy googling away, a repeat of my question, just so you're on point, and don't resort to your predictable tactics of obfuscation with Michael Vick stories and such: "Again, show us evidence that properly trained and cared for pitbulls, raised from puppies, are more dangerous and likely to attack than other dog breeds. . .otherwise, take your anecdotes and biases somewhere else."

And if the point is really the severity, let's get some Rott. and Presa Canario dog and owner bashing in as well, just to spread the love around.

Not to get off the topic , we have a couple senior citizen yellow labs. A 15 and 10 year old.

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Originally posted by mountainman:
Not to get off the topic , we have a couple senior citizen yellow labs. A 15 and 10 year old.

Perfectly fine with me.

I had a Boxer and a Springer growing up, my wife’s family was Wheaton territory.

We’re looking to get 2 dogs from the same litter in probably 2 years from now once our little guy gets older. Either German Wire-Haired Pointers or Airedales.

As for the ongoing debate on Pitbulls, I’ll only add these two things. #1) Dogs are bred to show certain attributes. Those are inherent in their make-up. All dogs can be bad, all dogs can be good. Dogs can be trained to do things (both good and bad) that may layer overtop of their inherent make-up but training, love, coddling can’t change what a dog, over generations of selective breeding, where designed to do. Pointers will almost always point. Ratters (many smaller terriers especially) want to kill little animals. Newfoundlands will inherently want to swim out and rescue you in open water. Dogs bred to fight large animals have that in their blood. You can layer over training and love so that they know not to do it, but it is still there, bottled up deep inside. On the flip side, no matter how much you train a cocker spaniel to be a fighting guard dog, it’s never going to be good at it. It’s not what it was bred to do…

And #2) My uncle is in the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police to you Americans) and was part of a house raid years ago where one of the other officers was bitten by a pitbull. My uncle emptied his revolver into the dog and the dog didn’t die and didn’t let go of the other officer until my uncle reloaded and shot him point blank in the head twice. I don’t care if it’s a pitbull or a toy poodle, personally, I wouldn’t want an animal that I knew I didn’t have to power to stop.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I don’t care if it’s a pitbull or a toy poodle, personally, I wouldn’t want an animal that I knew I didn’t have to power to stop.

Very reasonable comment and something I think about when I see very large powerful dogs leading their small owners around

I can't believe I'm even going to say this, so for the record, let it be know that this is stupid to even get involved in, OK? Here comes the rant!!

ALL dogs have the potential to cause serious harm, both to other dogs as well as to humans. Take a look inside Fifi's mouth. Those teeth? They're not for chewing grass! They're designed to tear and shred meat. Sorry, that's the fact. ANY dog can be turned aggressive or dangerous, most likely as a result of irresponsible human activity (poor breeding, care, irresponsible human owners)! Well-bred and well-raised dogs of any breed can be great pets, including rottweiler's (who are usually big sweethearts) and pit-bulls. Unfortunately, because of the physical strengths these breeds have, some moronic humans have chosen to irresponsibly breed, teach, and train these poor animals to be dangerous. My Pyr loves pit bulls! I have no idea why, but whenever he sees one, he goes bounding over to play with it. He must know something I don't, because every time, they play well together. (I will admit, I get a little nervous and keep a real close eye on the pit until I get a feel for one as a new encounter - not the dogs fault...).

To keep a fair balance here, we had an incident in our neighborhood this past week where a black lab nearly killed a neighbors Wheaton terrier. These dogs had met before without incident, but the Wheaton's owner let it out off-leash, it went into the lab's yard, and who knows what went wrong, but the lab ended up doing significant damage (3 bite-marks around the throat, with 3 tubes in place to drain the punctures). Not a pretty sight folks. Neither dog had any history of conflict or aggressive behavior. Unattended, with territorial boundaries crossed (dogs are territorial), something snapped and it had a bad ending. So, is the lab a "bad" or "vicious" dog? OR, does the real fault for the incident lie with the owner who didn't act responsibly by keeping their dog in their yard?? The dogs were being dogs. The owner screwed up. While you'd hope it wouldn't end that way, dogs are dogs. They're animals, no matter what we think, there is always some "animal" left in our little, sweet, wouldn't hurt a flea, puppy.

Frankly, I'm a little pissed that this thread got off-track as it did. I was excited, as a dog lover, to see this thread pop up. Dogs are wonderful creatures that bring us so much joy and pleasure in our lives, yet a thread that should celebrate our family members (guessing most dog owners feel this way...) and our buddies has turned nasty is disappointing - it should be noted, this is not the fault of any of the dogs/breeds listed in this conversation. One more fact for everyone to consider - the number of people killed/injured by dogs each year vs. the number of peopple killed/injured by other people a year?

I feel better now. Move along, nothing to see here...

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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I don’t care if it’s a pitbull or a toy poodle, personally, I wouldn’t want an animal that I knew I didn’t have to power to stop.

Very reasonable comment and something I think about when I see very large powerful dogs leading their small owners around

LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!

My wife won't walk the larger Leonberger on her own because she can't control him IF something were to happen.

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Originally posted by Bigfoot003:

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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I don’t care if it’s a pitbull or a toy poodle, personally, I wouldn’t want an animal that I knew I didn’t have to power to stop.

Very reasonable comment and something I think about when I see very large powerful dogs leading their small owners around

LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!

My wife won't walk the larger Leonberger on her own because she can't control him IF something were to happen.

my 7.5 pound cat owns my 54 pound lab. The cat ran the house until my son was born, now everyone cateers to him and he rules the house

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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:

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Originally posted by indybob:
Any Schipperke owners aboard? I've only met one, at a party about fifteen years ago, and it was the coolest little dog. Just loved that thing.

Yes. I dated a girl that had one. Meanest little shit on the planet. LOL.

It would bite off anyone's face that got near her. No Bob, not just mine.

I was never that worried, because I could punt it across the yard if needed. It was kind of annoying to have it snarl behind the door when I was walking to the john.

Good watch dog though.

Reminds me of the dog in Something about Mary.

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Originally posted by Bigfoot003:

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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I don’t care if it’s a pitbull or a toy poodle, personally, I wouldn’t want an animal that I knew I didn’t have to power to stop.

Very reasonable comment and something I think about when I see very large powerful dogs leading their small owners around

LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!

My wife won't walk the larger Leonberger on her own because she can't control him IF something were to happen.

Being trapped in a room with an ornery Siamese would scare me more than almost any dog!

I have two yellow labs, both from the same breeder. Mr. Utley is a 6 year old (foxfire red) male and Sonoma is a 5 month old (white) female.

I've always had labs and love their temperament. Still, I wouldn't leave them alone around children. Why tempt the fates? That's just my personal opinion and not meant to judge any other comments earlier in this thread.

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Originally posted by differentdave:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bigfoot003:
LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!
my 7.5 pound cat owns my 54 pound lab. The cat ran the house until my son was born, now everyone cateers to him and he rules the house

I was just thinking about this very thing as I was perusing the posts sequentially.

We are completely (up til now) ignoring the threat of cats. Cats, Lions, Tigers...they all have the hunter/prowler gene and you never know when they could snap and turn on you.

A very unpredictable species indeed

I think you should start a cat thread so we can see how entertaining it becomes.

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Originally posted by billhike:
I think you should start a cat thread so we can see how entertaining it becomes.

Cats are pure evil!!! They steal the breath of small children.

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Originally posted by billhike:
I think you should start a cat thread so we can see how entertaining it becomes.

NOW, we're talking!!! Love cats, and have had one or two for most of my 42 years, including my current one, a 90% feral stray I adopted in '98. Aloof, but has become a wonderful friend.

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Originally posted by KSC02:

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Originally posted by differentdave:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bigfoot003:
LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!
my 7.5 pound cat owns my 54 pound lab. The cat ran the house until my son was born, now everyone cateers to him and he rules the house

I was just thinking about this very thing as I was perusing the posts sequentially.

We are completely (up til now) ignoring the threat of cats. Cats, Lions, Tigers...they all have the hunter/prowler gene and you never know when they could snap and turn on you.

A very unpredictable species indeed

And rather than just kill their prey, they prefer to play with it for awhile, or until the mouse dies of a heart-attack. Pet me, please pet me, more, more...BITE!! OK, I'm done.
Very evil creatures...

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Originally posted by KSC02:

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Originally posted by differentdave:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bigfoot003:
LOL - I', 6'2", 200 lbs. My 2 dogs weigh #125 and #145, and for the record, the pound-for-pound badass in my house is a 9 lb Siamese cat. Trust me on this!
my 7.5 pound cat owns my 54 pound lab. The cat ran the house until my son was born, now everyone cateers to him and he rules the house

I was just thinking about this very thing as I was perusing the posts sequentially.

We are completely (up til now) ignoring the threat of cats. Cats, Lions, Tigers...they all have the hunter/prowler gene and you never know when they could snap and turn on you.

A very unpredictable species indeed

Somewhat common sight in Doha Qatar

I see BigFoot's Leonberger and raise him a pet cheetah!

Agree with the above comments on cats. I adopted a black stray kitten last year, and she is cute as can be. She is a decent size cat now, and so when she sees my bare toes wiggling, she'll be on it like white on rice.

8 year old Australian Shepherd. Loves running on the beach and swimming in Lake Michigan. Expert at catching a frisbee and has a fine repertoire of bar tricks.

VM

Cats microwaved, while you wait.

Golden Retriever (our second) and a Shepherd/lab mix from the pound.

Our lifestyle won't allow a mammal at this time, but I have had Labs most of my life. Currently, I have an awesome goldfish. The daughter of a friend "won" one at the fair a couple years back and I inherited it. It's huge, healthy and VERY low maintenance.

PH

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

We are completely (up til now) ignoring the threat of cats. Cats, Lions, Tigers...they all have the hunter/prowler gene and you never know when they could snap and turn on you.

A very unpredictable species indeed

Somewhat common sight in Doha Qatar

I see BigFoot's Leonberger and raise him a pet cheetah! [/QUOTE]

YIKES! Now THAT'S crazy! What's that guy gonna say to law enforcement when that thing breaks its leash, outpaces his car, and pounces on some kid playing soccer? "Uh, gee officer, he's always been such a loving cheetah. He's never done anything like this before..."

I hate to pile on, but I also witnessed a Pit Bull lock up on someone. We were at a neighbor’s house when I was a kid and their very friendly and nice pit was just chillin when one kid started chasing after the dog owners kid (just playing tag or something) and the pit sprang into action and latched onto the kids leg. It took a good minute to beat the pit off the kid and he had to be rushed to the hospital. The Pit was just trying to “protect” his owner, but it goes to show that you can’t look at these types of animals and assume they know the difference between play time and kill time. I would not let my kids around a Pit. No way.

I don’t see us ever having a dog or any kind of pet as we are just not home enough to give them the attention they need. I do like playing with my friends dogs though!

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Originally posted by mneeley490:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

We are completely (up til now) ignoring the threat of cats. Cats, Lions, Tigers...they all have the hunter/prowler gene and you never know when they could snap and turn on you.

A very unpredictable species indeed

Somewhat common sight in Doha Qatar

I see BigFoot's Leonberger and raise him a pet cheetah!

YIKES! Now THAT'S crazy! What's that guy gonna say to law enforcement when that thing breaks its leash, outpaces his car, and pounces on some kid playing soccer? "Uh, gee officer, he's always been such a loving cheetah. He's never done anything like this before..."[/QUOTE]



Things are BAD ASS-FAST: Cheetah at Cincy Zoo

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Originally posted by GlennK:
I hate to pile on, but I also witnessed a Pit Bull lock up on someone. We were at a neighbor’s house when I was a kid and their very friendly and nice pit was just chillin when one kid started chasing after the dog owners kid (just playing tag or something) and the pit sprang into action and latched onto the kids leg. It took a good minute to beat the pit off the kid and he had to be rushed to the hospital. The Pit was just trying to “protect” his owner, but it goes to show that you can’t look at these types of animals and assume they know the difference between play time and kill time. I would not let my kids around a Pit. No way.

I don’t see us ever having a dog or any kind of pet as we are just not home enough to give them the attention they need. I do like playing with my friends dogs though!

It was only one kid and based on previous posts, this particular pit bull just wasn't loved enough.............

No chihuahua owners in this group?

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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:It was only one kid and based on previous posts, this particular pit bull just wasn't loved enough.............

Dude, you weren't loved enough. I'm sorry.

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Originally posted by indybob:
I'm sorry.

We agree on something. You are very sorry.

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Originally posted by jburman82:
Oakley - 6 yo soft coated wheaten terrier. As many people on this board will attest, he is a living teddy bear.

I also have a soft coated wheaten. Best dog a person could every ask for. And the teddy bear analogy is perfect.

She is seriously the sweetest dog ever and fantastic around the kids (5 & 2) they pull her ears push on her jump on her and she just takes it and just asked to be petted in return.

I have two Greyhounds, both adopted from the racetrack. We have previously owned two other Greyhounds and a doberman/lab mix.

Sadie is a shy, quiet dog who spends a lot of time in my closet during the day. Divot is a rambunctious dog who always is looking to play, anytime Sadie makes a quick move, Divot is there to play.

I think enough has been said about Pit Bulls

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Originally posted by T Dub:

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Originally posted by jburman82:
Oakley - 6 yo soft coated wheaten terrier. As many people on this board will attest, he is a living teddy bear.

I also have a soft coated wheaten. Best dog a person could every ask for. And the teddy bear analogy is perfect.

She is seriously the sweetest dog ever and fantastic around the kids (5 & 2) they pull her ears push on her jump on her and she just takes it and just asked to be petted in return.

She is a beautiful dog, and quite charming at offlines.

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She is a beautiful dog, and quite charming at offlines.

She's been licking the fat splatter from the Flannerys off the outside bar for two days now.

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Originally posted by indybob:

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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:It was only one kid and based on previous posts, this particular pit bull just wasn't loved enough.............

Dude, you weren't loved enough. I'm sorry.

LOL. That's weak even for you. You really should stop trying to best your intellectual superiors in a public debate. As usual, you lose handily and just wind up sounding foolish.

Perhaps you should take up knitting instead.

The wife has a 7 month old Chevaliar King Charles Spaniel as her lap dog while I have 4 month old border collie to chase me around and train me!