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A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:
They don't own them because they make wonderful pets.


Perfectly stated! That sentence tells you the truth about pit bull owners better than anything else that was said. I wish I had said it.


Frankly, coming back here and reading all of the crap that you and GA have posted has really given me some insight on how narrow minded some people are about pit bulls. Have either of you even interacted with a properly raised pit from birth? I've had several dogs in my life, as has my family and friends. Frankly, Leo, the pit I have now is the most loving animal I've ever owned. We rescued him at 6 weeks old when he was abandoned with his brothers and sisters in a cardboard box. We were the first people to give him solid food, and he has slept in our bed every night since we first got him. We've raised him with tons of love, spoiled him to death, and given him a terrific life. He's a sweetheart...we have large gatherings at our house regularly, and every one loves him.

You mention children. Our neighbors across the street have a boy and a girl, both under the age of 3. We bring Leo over there all the time to play with the kids while we hang out with their parents. The kids absolutely love him. Leo hangs out with other dogs and cats often, he has never shown aggression towards any living thing...it's always the opposite, he absolutely loves every person and every animal he interacts with. Hell, my mom has a 12 year old cockatiel that often comes out of his cage and wanders around on the floor of her house. Leo will go up to him, give him a sniff type hello, and then wander off - our Pit won't even bother a little bird for crying out loud.

I'm not gonna say there aren't horrible things that some Pit Bulls have done, but that doesn't condemn the entire breed. You raise a dog from birth to be violent and aggressive, that's what's gonna happen...whether it's a Pit or a Poodle. It's just that Pit's are the pound for pound strongest dogs out there, and when owners raise them badly, they can be a lot more lethal than other breeds. And unfortunately, a lot of classless people own Pits and raise them that way. When raised right, they can be just as loving as any other breed, and I know that very personally. Frankly, I'm not going to get into it anymore from here with you two, as you both obviously don't know sh*t when it comes to Pit's as an entire breed in general.
foxfoxMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
quote:
Originally posted by Gigond Ass:
They don't own them because they make wonderful pets.


Perfectly stated! That sentence tells you the truth about pit bull owners better than anything else that was said. I wish I had said it.


Frankly, coming back here and reading all of the crap that you and GA have posted has really given me some insight on how narrow minded some people are about pit bulls. Have either of you even interacted with a properly raised pit from birth? I've had several dogs in my life, as has my family and friends. Frankly, Leo, the pit I have now is the most loving animal I've ever owned. We rescued him at 6 weeks old when he was abandoned with his brothers and sisters in a cardboard box. We were the first people to give him solid food, and he has slept in our bed every night since we first got him. We've raised him with tons of love, spoiled him to death, and given him a terrific life. He's a sweetheart...we have large gatherings at our house regularly, and every one loves him.

You mention children. Our neighbors across the street have a boy and a girl, both under the age of 3. We bring Leo over there all the time to play with the kids while we hang out with their parents. The kids absolutely love him. Leo hangs out with other dogs and cats often, he has never shown aggression towards any living thing...it's always the opposite, he absolutely loves every person and every animal he interacts with. Hell, my mom has a 12 year old cockatiel that often comes out of his cage and wanders around on the floor of her house. Leo will go up to him, give him a sniff type hello, and then wander off - our Pit won't even bother a little bird for crying out loud.

I'm not gonna say there aren't horrible things that some Pit Bulls have done, but that doesn't condemn the entire breed. You raise a dog from birth to be violent and aggressive, that's what's gonna happen...whether it's a Pit or a Poodle. It's just that Pit's are the pound for pound strongest dogs out there, and when owners raise them badly, they can be a lot more lethal than other breeds. And unfortunately, a lot of classless people own Pits and raise them that way. When raised right, they can be just as loving as any other breed, and I know that very personally. Frankly, I'm not going to get into it anymore from here with you two, as you both obviously don't know sh*t when it comes to Pit's as an entire breed in general.


One of my best friends has one he raised from a pup with total love and affection. Seba was always totally loving with other animals and children. Then one night at another friends party she went crazy and attacked a six month old very friendly puppy. It was horrible to see the pit go straigt for the neck of the pup. The owner of the pit (6'4/240) quickly jumped into action and began puching the dog as hard as he could. It took several minutes before the pit let go. Thank god the puppy lived. Knowing that dog for a long time before this happened I had changed my mind about the breed. After it happened not so much. I now believe they can snap at any time.
G gigondassMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
quote:
Originally posted by Gigond Ass:
They don't own them because they make wonderful pets.


Perfectly stated! That sentence tells you the truth about pit bull owners better than anything else that was said. I wish I had said it.


Frankly, coming back here and reading all of the crap that you and GA have posted has really given me some insight on how narrow minded some people are about pit bulls. Have either of you even interacted with a properly raised pit from birth? I've had several dogs in my life, as has my family and friends. Frankly, Leo, the pit I have now is the most loving animal I've ever owned. We rescued him at 6 weeks old when he was abandoned with his brothers and sisters in a cardboard box. We were the first people to give him solid food, and he has slept in our bed every night since we first got him. We've raised him with tons of love, spoiled him to death, and given him a terrific life. He's a sweetheart...we have large gatherings at our house regularly, and every one loves him.

You mention children. Our neighbors across the street have a boy and a girl, both under the age of 3. We bring Leo over there all the time to play with the kids while we hang out with their parents. The kids absolutely love him. Leo hangs out with other dogs and cats often, he has never shown aggression towards any living thing...it's always the opposite, he absolutely loves every person and every animal he interacts with. Hell, my mom has a 12 year old cockatiel that often comes out of his cage and wanders around on the floor of her house. Leo will go up to him, give him a sniff type hello, and then wander off - our Pit won't even bother a little bird for crying out loud.

I'm not gonna say there aren't horrible things that some Pit Bulls have done, but that doesn't condemn the entire breed. You raise a dog from birth to be violent and aggressive, that's what's gonna happen...whether it's a Pit or a Poodle. It's just that Pit's are the pound for pound strongest dogs out there, and when owners raise them badly, they can be a lot more lethal than other breeds. And unfortunately, a lot of classless people own Pits and raise them that way. When raised right, they can be just as loving as any other breed, and I know that very personally. Frankly, I'm not going to get into it anymore from here with you two, as you both obviously don't know sh*t when it comes to Pit's as an entire breed in general.
I told you that I personally witnessed two different pit bulls attack people and animals.

The guy with the tire iron was me.

You better hope you're right. Too many others haven't been.
B bigfoot003Member
We have 2 dogs, both male:
1. KONA - Great Pyrenees, 125#. Typical Pyr, totally independent, loves everything except thunderstorms and fireworks. Lieks to hang out when it's -20F outside...

2. Ripley - Leonberger, 150#. Rescued him when he was 4 from a garage. If you let him near water, be prepared to go in after him to get him out! Amazing swimmers.

The FedEx guy hates delivering to our house. He's afraid of dogs... Big Grin
A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by Board-O:
So you own a pit bull and bring it over to play with your neighbors' toddlers. You've told us all we need to know about you (and your neighbors).


Ofcourse, because every Pit Bull is going to maul little children right, Board-O? There's surely no loving and gentle Pit Bulls in existence huh, Board-O? In your all-knowing experience with thousands of Pit's over the years, you have justly come to the scientific conclusion that all Pit's are mindless killers that will at any instant attack animals, people and children for no given reason, right? You're such a ridiculous piece of work.

Board-O, you're a self-righteous f*cking moron. I'd love to tell you that personally the next time you're in AZ, or I'm in NY.
R redguyinabluestateMember
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Originally posted by Bigfoot003:
The FedEx guy hates delivering to our house. He's afraid of dogs... Big Grin


Our old Fed-ex driver would bring dog biscuits with every delivery. She would even leave one for Duke if there was nobody home. Basically trained him to go ape shit any time there was a delivery truck in the neighborhood. It can get awfully noisy around Christmas time.
board-oboard-oMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
So you own a pit bull and bring it over to play with your neighbors' toddlers. You've told us all we need to know about you (and your neighbors).


Ofcourse, because every Pit Bull is going to maul little children right, Board-O?

Oversimplification is a tool of a tool. I never said every one would, but they have a far greater potential than any other breed.

There's surely no loving and gentle Pit Bulls in existence huh, Board-O?

Oversimplification is a tool of a tool. I'm sure there are some, but they have a greater potential for sudden lethal violence than any other breed.

In your all-knowing experience with thousands of Pit's over the years, you have justly come to the scientific conclusion that all Pit's are mindless killers that will at any instant attack animals, people and children for no given reason, right?

Oversimplification is a tool of a tool. Now you're manufacturing "facts."

You're such a ridiculous piece of work.

Oversimplification is a tool of a tool. If being ridiculous is realizing the danger inherent in the breed, I plead guilty. To deny it is stupidity.

Board-O, you're a self-righteous f*cking moron. I'd love to tell you that personally the next time you're in AZ, or I'm in NY.

Resorting to obscenity is a tool of a tool. You see the anger in your response? (We all do.) I'm guessing you're part pit bull. I know I wouldn't you or your viscious animal near my children. Why don't you resume bragging about your entry level Lexus? You got less upset about that.
indybobindybobMember
The problem is when people generalize, and apply a couple of personal anecdotes to an entire class of people/animals/things. Many of the world's problems have sprung from such thinking, as we all know. Fox's story about the puppy mauling pit bull is as relevant as AZwineRyan's histdory with his dog's.

The problem is that guys like GA and BO easily apply Fox's story to their own canine ethos, while completely discounting AZWineRyan's history with his dog as irrelevant. I hope I'm never that close minded a person. Somehow, I doubt I'll have to worry about that.
G gigondassMember
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Originally posted by indybob:
The problem is when people generalize, and apply a couple of personal anecdotes to an entire class of people/animals/things. Many of the world's problems have sprung from such thinking, as we all know. Fox's story about the puppy mauling pit bull is as relevant as AZwineRyan's histdory with his dog's.

The problem is that guys like GA and BO easily apply Fox's story to their own canine ethos, while completely discounting AZWineRyan's history with his dog as irrelevant. I hope I'm never that close minded a person. Somehow, I doubt I'll have to worry about that.
The problem with your premise, is that I've witnessed these type of dogs commit attacks twice. Any dog can be aggressive, it's true. I'm pretty sure I can stop any aggressive cocker spaniel.

When you hit a dog in the face 7-8 times with an iron bar, and it doesn't let go of the creature it's mauling, it tends to change your perspective. It's pretty scaring knowing that the animal mauling your neighbors dog seems impervious to pain, and frankly could turn on you and maul you in an instant. If I'd thought about it, I would have gone inside, gotten my .357 magnum and shot it. That's what I would do next time after going through that event.

Now if your dog decides to attack someone, or something, I'd prefer to have a fighting chance at stopping it. Even good dogs bite if they're accidentally injured. You know, stepped on. They, like all creatures have a fight or flight response. The potential for injury from a fight response from dogs bred to be efficient at killing and maiming is simply too great.

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend letting toddlers play with any large breed dog, pit bull or otherwise. The risks are just too great.

I guess I just have a policy of not living with an apex predator in my home, other than me.
A azwineryanMember
Board-O, my wife and I are very close with our dog, and care for him deeply (as many dog owner's do). I'm angry? Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be? The problem here is that you are generalizing an entire breed of dog, and while doing so, insulting my dog - who you know nothing about but what I've said about him in this thread. How would you feel if I for no good reason began to belittle and run down your children? I'm sure you'd be pretty dang angry too. Would I then try to belittle you for defending your children? I think not, I'd have no right. I realize that's comparing children to a pet dog, but I'm sure you can see my point.
indybobindybobMember
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Originally posted by Gigond Ass:
I guess I just have a policy of not living with an apex predator in my home, other than me.


That's fair enough. Even AZ knows that there is that there's a very tiny chance his dog will go nuts, same with any properly raised dog. Hell, some well-raised people go nuts.

My wife's dog (25# Spitz mix) has a rap sheet with a local police department for biting a kid running past the house about ten years ago. If it were a breed like a Presa Canario (like a pitbull on steroids), the little nip on the kid's heel would have been magnified many times.

Personally, I think it's great when someone like AZ chooses to give a dog a great life. Caring for animals is a very noble act, and I can't say I'd turn down a similar opportunity at some point in my life.

But, if some would say I'm a risk taker, so be it.
board-oboard-oMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
Board-O, my wife and I are very close with our dog, and care for him deeply (as many dog owner's do).

I don't doubt that.

I'm angry? Ofcourse, why wouldn't I be? The problem here is that you are generalizing an entire breed of dog, and while doing so, insulting my dog - who you know nothing about but what I've said about him in this thread.

Yes, I'm generalizing an entire breed of dog. I said they're more, dangerous, unpredictable, and lethal than other breeds. I'm sure you're dog seems wonderful. I'm also sure it has a far greater potential of a vicious attack than the aforementioned cocker spaniel, and said attack would be far more vicious.

How would you feel if I for no good reason began to belittle and run down your children? I'm sure you'd be pretty dang angry too.

No, I wouldn't. You're welcome to say anything about my family or me that you want. I don't get angry here. I do get amusement froim the attempts.

Would I then try to belittle you for defending your children?

I don't really care what you say. Haven't I made that abundantly clear by now? Why would I care about what a person who takes his pit bull to play with babies has to say?
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