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Originally posted by elmo:
rtnwin, your 1973's are long dead.


Have you actually tried these recently or just making an assumption? FWIW I agree they are probably long gone but until I try I don’t know.
About 7 yrs. ago I bought 20 cases of wine from a guy liquidating an old cellar at Hi Time Wine Cellars in Costa Mesa. There were many good wines mostly from the 70’s & 80’s. The prices and the provenance were incredible. In addition to many well known bottles I picked up some novelties for $2 - $3 ea. Amazingly, most of the novelties were still drinkable. This guy must have had a cellar near freezing.
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Originally posted by rtnwin:
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Originally posted by elmo:
rtnwin, your 1973's are long dead.


Have you actually tried these recently or just making an assumption?


Most of the 1973 Bordeaux wines were tiring 30 years ago. The best were tiring 25 years ago. Virtually all of them were dead more than 20 years ago. 1973 produced thin Bordeaux lacking in tannin, fruit, and acidity. elmo didn't have to taste any of them recently.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by rtnwin:
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Originally posted by elmo:
rtnwin, your 1973's are long dead.


Have you actually tried these recently or just making an assumption?


Most of the 1973 Bordeaux wines were tiring 30 years ago. The best were tiring 25 years ago. Virtually all of them were dead more than 20 years ago. 1973 produced thin Bordeaux lacking in tannin, fruit, and acidity. elmo didn't have to taste any of them recently.


Thanks, but as originally stated neither of these is a Bordeaux. A Cali cab and Spanish Penedes, modest wines even in the 70’s. As noted above, bought as novelties with a larger purchase. Probably long gone but I have been surprised by some of these.
Thanks to winecommune, I now have two more bottles which are the oldest in my (well not yet in my) cellar.

1926 Boyd-Cantenac
and
1966 Chateau Giscours

Low shoulder fill in the Boyd-Cantenac, so not much hope for it, but at $22, I couldn't pass.

The Giscours's fill is into the neck, so I am interested in trying that one. But hell, I'm going to drink them both.

Gotta love WC!
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by JMatthews:

1926 Boyd-Cantenac
and
1966 Chateau Giscours
But hell, I'm going to drink them both.



I'm not so sure you're going to drink the 1926 Boyd-Cantenac after you open it.

The 1966 Giscours was better than the 1966 Margaux, but it's likely tiring. I'll be interested to read your notes.


Ha, well maybe the 1926 Boyd-Cantenac can sit around for a while looking pretty.

Its good to hear that the Giscours was better than the Margaux in 1966. When it looks like there will be a cool weather week, I'll have it shipped and open it soon following. This one cost me $39, and the fill from the photo appears perfect.
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Originally posted by JMatthews:
Ha, well maybe the 1926 Boyd-Cantenac can sit around for a while looking pretty.


Questionable how pretty it looks, with cellophane tape holding the label together. But, it's impressive nonetheless. I gave that bottle a long hard look, and am amazed that you got it for $22. Congrats and good luck with it. Cool
1973 Domaine de la Romanée Conti Richebourg. 1973 was a dreadful year for the wine world wide, from what I hear. Lots of rain, rot, and no sun. Oddly enough, not easy to come by. Everyone drank it!...or poured it down the drain? On the up side, I was born in '73. Lots of fun along the way, and I made the decision to purchase 6 bottles. One for each decade of life. So when I am 90, I will have a wine that looks, tastes, and smell about how I do. I picked this wine based upon a review I read from Neal Martin. Also, I saw the price had dropped by half from what it was listed at around Christmas 2008. Oh how the wine world has changed in the past 7 months. Seems like the bottom came fast, back in February, Now prices are floating upward. Here is what Martin had to say about the wine, and this is why I picked it.

Tasted at La Paulee in Meursault, a bottle proffered by Linden Wilkie. Technically, this should be a disaster given the vintage, but this is probably as good as ’73 gets and a worthy purchase for anyone born in this maligned year (like my brother!) It has a mature hue with wide tawny rim. The nose is surprisingly fresh with mulberry, red cherries, mouldy vase of oranges and leather, faded but attractive. The palate is medium-bodied; fully mature of course, soft entry with good acidity, nice weight, a lilting Richebourg with notes of wild strawberry and mocha. Faded, but faded with utmost grace and civility. Burgundy: full of surprises. Drink now. Tasted November 2008. (88pts)
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Originally posted by PlanoWino:
1970 Mouton Rothschild; love the Chagal label.


PlanoWino, I have had that wine 3 times recently. You might want to consider opening it soon.

Shall I check my schedule? Wink


I have probably held it too long but it is always a guessing game. It will open sometime this year and we will hope for the best.
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Originally posted by MoselleLuxemburg:
Can't compete with you people. The serious stuff in my cellar starts with 1995. The only exception is a 1986 Quarts de Chaume, from Chateau Bellerive. Oldest is a fortified: 1970 Quinta da Romaneira Colheita Port, which ought to be a fabulous celebration drink for next year's birthday party.
Oldest i ever had was a 1964 Calon-Ségur.


Wow.. I would love to try that port ... where's the bday party going to be? ;-) ...

will bring a few friends from the same year.

heh

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