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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Ah...I see two of my favorite North Texans disagree on Starbucks.

I agree with both of you, in a way.

Yes, I think Starbucks moved the bar for the US and coffee by concentrating on fresh(er) roasts, fresh grinding and attention to quality control and consistency. Kinda like McD's in that, at least you know if you order a grande frappe mocha vanilla peppermint soymilk whatever, it's going to taste the same in Seattle or Portland. Because so many Starbucks drinks are flavored/cut/adulterated coffees I believe they went the super dark roast/espresso based route because if they didn't, you wouldn't be able to taste any coffee in the damn beverage at all.

PH
Well put. We have to thank Starbucks for starting the coffee craze which has inspired many small local coffee shops to pop up which is a major positive for true coffee fans. We are lucky to have some good local cafes around here so I don’t have to go to starbucks. I like to taste the actual coffee and with starbucks I only taste the roast. For chains, I prefer Peet’s but they are not on every corner like starbucks unfortunately.

For the record I like my coffee black, but occasionally I’ll give it a little splash of milk if it’s too acidic.
I don’t think that comparison works B-O. Steak obviously is better with salt and pepper because they enhance the savory aspect of the meat. Plus the meat has a strong flavor that can stand up to seasonings.

For me, coffee is a bit more nuanced and sugar can mask/change the flavor by throwing some sweetness in the mix. Same for soy and sushi. I personally don’t put soy on sushi unless the chef does it for me as I think it can overpower the subtle flavor of the fish, which is what great sushi is all about to me.

With that said, I live by the rule that people should be able to do what makes them happy. If a dollop of A-1 on a prime ribeye makes someone happy, than that is what they should do.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
If a dollop of A-1 on a prime ribeye makes someone happy, than that is what they should do.


Just don't let me see you do it at my place! Wink

I agree with GlennK's coffee/steak distinction. That said, I began drinking coffee with sweetener and lightener because I didn't really care for how it tasted at the time. Could have been the coffee, but for most folks initially, coffee; like alcoholic beverages, tobacco products etc. usually don't taste good on the first go-round. I needed a caffeine delivery system (I was a truck driver in those days) and the coffee was available, free and effective. The sugar and cream helped me get it down.

As I learned to like coffee, I found that the better the coffee the less likely I was to mess with it. I prefer my medium roasted, nuanced coffees black. If I'm drinking lesser stuff or if it's really bitter/burnt/over-roasted I have no problem doctoring it up a bit.

PH
I drink two cups of coffee a day, every day. I grind it each morning at home, brew, and pour it into a very good "thermos" that I had filled with hot water, and head off to the office. My daily routine is checking email, voicemail, etc. while sipping very good coffee in my office.

The damned thing of it is, I get a really bad headache if I don't have any coffee. Mad And I literally don't have more than two cups a day. Black, BTW. Anyone else get the no-caffeine headache?

"Hi, I'm BRR, and I'm addicted to a drug..."
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Originally posted by BRR:
I drink two cups of coffee a day, every day. I grind it each morning at home, brew, and pour it into a very good "thermos" that I had filled with hot water, and head off to the office. My daily routine is checking email, voicemail, etc. while sipping very good coffee in my office.

The damned thing of it is, I get a really bad headache if I don't have any coffee. Mad And I literally don't have more than two cups a day. Black, BTW. Anyone else get the no-caffeine headache?

"Hi, I'm BRR, and I'm addicted to a drug..."


I'm sure a fair amount on here are borderline alkies, but the one thing I'm addicted to is caffeine. And yes, you get the headaches. My sister went off caffeine addiction and was bed-ridden with migraines for two days cos of it. Rough! She said she felt brilliant afterwards. A couple guys on my team only have orange juice in the morning. I think to myself how they must easily know they are tired. They're big kids though. Cereal and OJ? Crikey...
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Originally posted by BRR:
I drink two cups of coffee a day, every day. I grind it each morning at home, brew, and pour it into a very good "thermos" that I had filled with hot water, and head off to the office. My daily routine is checking email, voicemail, etc. while sipping very good coffee in my office.

The damned thing of it is, I get a really bad headache if I don't have any coffee. Mad And I literally don't have more than two cups a day. Black, BTW. Anyone else get the no-caffeine headache?

"Hi, I'm BRR, and I'm addicted to a drug..."
After 15 years of drinking multiple cups of coffee in the morning I quit cold turkey about 2 years ago. I was having stomach problems and I was eliminating certain things from my diet to see if that would fix it. I had pretty bad headaches for a couple of days and just felt off for about a month, but after that I felt much better. Turned out coffee was not causing my stomach issues, but since I had battled through the withdrawals, I stopped making coffee apart of my daily routine. I actually feel better in the mornings now than I did when I was drinking coffee so I don’t miss that daily cup at all. The couple of cups I do drink a month are now for pure enjoyment as I do really love good coffee.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
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Originally posted by BRR:
I drink two cups of coffee a day, every day. I grind it each morning at home, brew, and pour it into a very good "thermos" that I had filled with hot water, and head off to the office. My daily routine is checking email, voicemail, etc. while sipping very good coffee in my office.

The damned thing of it is, I get a really bad headache if I don't have any coffee. Mad And I literally don't have more than two cups a day. Black, BTW. Anyone else get the no-caffeine headache?

"Hi, I'm BRR, and I'm addicted to a drug..."
After 15 years of drinking multiple cups of coffee in the morning I quit cold turkey about 2 years ago. I was having stomach problems and I was eliminating certain things from my diet to see if that would fix it. I had pretty bad headaches for a couple of days and just felt off for about a month, but after that I felt much better. Turned out coffee was not causing my stomach issues, but since I had battled through the withdrawals, I stopped making coffee apart of my daily routine. I actually feel better in the mornings now than I did when I was drinking coffee so I don’t miss that daily cup at all. The couple of cups I do drink a month are now for pure enjoyment as I do really love good coffee.


Do you drink tea instead? Or caffeine out?
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Originally posted by Adam10:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
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Originally posted by BRR:
I drink two cups of coffee a day, every day. I grind it each morning at home, brew, and pour it into a very good "thermos" that I had filled with hot water, and head off to the office. My daily routine is checking email, voicemail, etc. while sipping very good coffee in my office.

The damned thing of it is, I get a really bad headache if I don't have any coffee. Mad And I literally don't have more than two cups a day. Black, BTW. Anyone else get the no-caffeine headache?

"Hi, I'm BRR, and I'm addicted to a drug..."
After 15 years of drinking multiple cups of coffee in the morning I quit cold turkey about 2 years ago. I was having stomach problems and I was eliminating certain things from my diet to see if that would fix it. I had pretty bad headaches for a couple of days and just felt off for about a month, but after that I felt much better. Turned out coffee was not causing my stomach issues, but since I had battled through the withdrawals, I stopped making coffee apart of my daily routine. I actually feel better in the mornings now than I did when I was drinking coffee so I don’t miss that daily cup at all. The couple of cups I do drink a month are now for pure enjoyment as I do really love good coffee.


Do you drink tea instead? Or caffeine out?
Green tea maybe once a week, so caffeine out pretty much. No soda either.

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