will have to try bee's knees.
Question on cocktail glass size. For cocktails that do not include ice in the drinking glass, what is the best size for the glass? I have seen glasses with 8 or more ounces of capacity and some with around 6 ounces. I wonder if 8 ounces might be too big for some cocktails.
There is a cool Schott Zwiesle coupe glass that is angular but it is 8.8 ounce capacity.
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
will have to try bee's knees.
Question on cocktail glass size. For cocktails that do not include ice in the drinking glass, what is the best size for the glass? I have seen glasses with 8 or more ounces of capacity and some with around 6 ounces. I wonder if 8 ounces might be too big for some cocktails.
There is a cool Schott Zwiesle coupe glass that is angular but it is 8.8 ounce capacity.
like a perky lady's tit?
i like highballers in general.
you're not sniffing a cocktail, for me, it's all about being about to transport from A to B and keeping teh drinking at the right temp
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
will have to try bee's knees.
Question on cocktail glass size. For cocktails that do not include ice in the drinking glass, what is the best size for the glass? I have seen glasses with 8 or more ounces of capacity and some with around 6 ounces. I wonder if 8 ounces might be too big for some cocktails.
There is a cool Schott Zwiesle coupe glass that is angular but it is 8.8 ounce capacity.
I think that's perfectly fine. Most readily available cocktail glasses are "double" sized nowadays.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
i'm a huge fan of teh bee's knees
but i dont like the "typical" mix because fresh lemon juice is a bit too overpowering
i do 2.5 gin
1 honey syrup
.5 lemon juice
take lemon peel and rub around rim of glass and light it with a match.
No kidding...will have to try it that way next time.
quote:like a perky lady's tit?
I didn't see that coming!
Bespoke cocktail party over the weekend:
The Maharajah's Burra-Peg
Old Fashioned
Martini
Barrel aged El Presidente
Barrel aged Boulevardier
The Maharajah's Burra-Peg
Old Fashioned
Martini
Barrel aged El Presidente
Barrel aged Boulevardier
bartender and i just sat around and made up a drink
1 part genepy
1 part gin
1 part soda water
1/2 part heavy creme
1/2 part simple syrup
1 egg white
stir genepy, gin, simple syrup, heavy creme in mixer
add egg white
shake well
1/2 part soda water on bottom, pour mixture over
fill to top with soda water,
garnish with dashes of cocoa powder
if you love the brooklyn egg cream, this is absolutely fantastic.
1 part genepy
1 part gin
1 part soda water
1/2 part heavy creme
1/2 part simple syrup
1 egg white
stir genepy, gin, simple syrup, heavy creme in mixer
add egg white
shake well
1/2 part soda water on bottom, pour mixture over
fill to top with soda water,
garnish with dashes of cocoa powder
if you love the brooklyn egg cream, this is absolutely fantastic.
Hot buttered rum. Usually with rum, sometimes with bourbon. I've been using butter, brown sugar, nutmeg, and a small amount of cinnamon and ground cloves (no ice cream). I'm going to try the next batch with orange peel, vanilla bean maybe ginger or maple syrup.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
like a perky lady's tit?
How did I miss this comment...gotta love those urban legends lol

Last night a Martini:
2.25 oz Bombay Sapphire
0.75 oz Dolin Dry Vermouth
1 dash orange bitters
If you haven't added a dash of orange bitters to your martini, I suggest you do so

Made myself two "Christmas" Old Fashioneds last night
2 oz. Four Roses Bourbon
1/2 oz. Brown sugar simple syrup
2 dashes Chocolate Bitters
1 dash Orange Bitters
Orange peel garnish
2 oz. Four Roses Bourbon
1/2 oz. Brown sugar simple syrup
2 dashes Chocolate Bitters
1 dash Orange Bitters
Orange peel garnish
While I didn't make any cocktails this past week while in Hawaii, I did have two liliko mojitos at the Beach House in Kauai. Don't remember exactly what was in them but they were very tasty.
Also had mai tais and other island drinks while there.
Also had mai tais and other island drinks while there.
Boulevard Manhattan:
2 oz Rittenhouse Rye
1 oz Dolin Dry Vermouth
0.5 oz Grand Marnier
2 dashes Angostura orange bitters
2 oz Rittenhouse Rye
1 oz Dolin Dry Vermouth
0.5 oz Grand Marnier
2 dashes Angostura orange bitters
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
While I didn't make any cocktails this past week while in Hawaii, I did have two liliko mojitos at the Beach House in Kauai. Don't remember exactly what was in them but they were very tasty.
Also had mai tais and other island drinks while there.
If you want to recreate it, it's probably just a mojito with half a passionfruit muddled into the cocktail. Or if fruit unavailable, add 1.5 - 2oz passionfruit nectar.
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
While I didn't make any cocktails this past week while in Hawaii, I did have two liliko mojitos at the Beach House in Kauai. Don't remember exactly what was in them but they were very tasty.
Also had mai tais and other island drinks while there.
If you want to recreate it, it's probably just a mojito with half a passionfruit muddled into the cocktail. Or if fruit unavailable, add 1.5 - 2oz passionfruit nectar.
also found some made with pineapple muddle and a big pineapple slice on the side.
Making Pumpkin Pie Cocktails for Turkey Day at my cousin's house. Not my thing and kinda girly, but all the suburban housewives love it
:
2 oz Svedka Vanilla Vodka
1 oz Hiram Walker Pumpkin Spice liqueur
0.25 oz Dekuyper Buttershots Schnapps
0.25 oz Kahula
Splash of light cream
Shake with ice and serve in a cocktail glass. Garnish with ground nutmeg.
Since this drink is basically liquid candy, you can substitute the booze brands so long as it's decent quality.
- EDIT -
Also play with the proportions to suite your crowd.

2 oz Svedka Vanilla Vodka
1 oz Hiram Walker Pumpkin Spice liqueur
0.25 oz Dekuyper Buttershots Schnapps
0.25 oz Kahula
Splash of light cream
Shake with ice and serve in a cocktail glass. Garnish with ground nutmeg.
Since this drink is basically liquid candy, you can substitute the booze brands so long as it's decent quality.
- EDIT -
Also play with the proportions to suite your crowd.
Painkillers - 2 oz rum, 4 oz pineapple juice, 1 oz orange juice, 1 oz cream of coconut. Boat drink, similar to Pina colada. I would probably add a bit more rum to it, maybe a spice rum for more complexity.
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Painkillers - 2 oz rum, 4 oz pineapple juice, 1 oz orange juice, 1 oz cream of coconut. Boat drink, similar to Pina colada. I would probably add a bit more rum to it, maybe a spice rum for more complexity.
The original recipe has a bit more rum. Also important to use Pusser's, it's dark and has a unique flavour:
3 oz Pusser's rum
1 oz coconut cream (separated from coconut milk)
4 oz pineapple juice
1 oz orange juice
Shake and top with a little fresh grated nutmeg.
Dangerous but amazing!
quote:Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Painkillers - 2 oz rum, 4 oz pineapple juice, 1 oz orange juice, 1 oz cream of coconut. Boat drink, similar to Pina colada. I would probably add a bit more rum to it, maybe a spice rum for more complexity.
The original recipe has a bit more rum. Also important to use Pusser's, it's dark and has a unique flavour:
3 oz Pusser's rum
1 oz coconut cream (separated from coconut milk)
4 oz pineapple juice
1 oz orange juice
Shake and top with a little fresh grated nutmeg.
Dangerous but amazing!
Is there much difference between say Meyer's dark rum and Pusser's?
I quite like Meyer's as a regular mixing dark rum but in the same way a Dark & Stormy should only be made with Goslings Rum, a Painkiller should only be made with Pusser's. It just doesn't taste the same.
Pusser's is definitely at a higher quality that Meyer's.
Pusser's is definitely at a higher quality that Meyer's.
quote:Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Painkillers - 2 oz rum, 4 oz pineapple juice, 1 oz orange juice, 1 oz cream of coconut. Boat drink, similar to Pina colada. I would probably add a bit more rum to it, maybe a spice rum for more complexity.
The original recipe has a bit more rum. Also important to use Pusser's, it's dark and has a unique flavour:
3 oz Pusser's rum
1 oz coconut cream (separated from coconut milk)
4 oz pineapple juice
1 oz orange juice
Shake and top with a little fresh grated nutmeg.
Dangerous but amazing!
Great drink. Agreed...you must use Pusser's. Otherwise it's a different flavor profile. It's kinda like making a Dark n Stormy w/o Goslings Black Seal. But you probably can substitute another good naval strength rum (ie Smith & Cross).
The drink is a standard proportion, except you simply up "the pain" (2, 3, or 4 parts Pusser's). I personally prefer the #4, IMHO it balances out the sweetness.
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Is there much difference between say Meyer's dark rum and Pusser's?
Different flavor profiles. Pusser's is a navy-style amber rum, while Meyers' is a blended dark rum.
However Pusser's has recently revamped their lineup, so their naval strength is now called "Gunpowder Proof." That may be the pain is not what it used to be and why I prefer #4

http://pussersrum.com/news/pus...mps-labeling-system/
I hate to go out and buy a different brand of a liquor for every drink I make, I don't have that big of a bar!
I think the next time I try to make a Painkiller I will at least increase the amount of rum to three ounces and maybe use Myers or a spiced rum to see how it tastes. It was still a decent drink how I made it with Mount Gay rum.
I think the next time I try to make a Painkiller I will at least increase the amount of rum to three ounces and maybe use Myers or a spiced rum to see how it tastes. It was still a decent drink how I made it with Mount Gay rum.
Old Fashioned with Bulleit Rye.
quote:Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Old Fashioned with Bulleit Rye.
Great minds think alike...had a Wild Turkey 101 Old Fashioned

Made a couple of Daquiri's last night. Both of them made with 2 oz Mt Gay rum and 1 oz of fresh lime juice. Used 1/2 oz simple syrup on first(as recipe calls for) and 1 oz simple syrup on second.
Maybe my limes are strong or my simple syrup is weak, but I went to 1 oz of the syrup as the 1/2 oz didn't balance out the tartness of the lime. Second was more balanced than the first. I liked the daquiri's but I might consider increasing the rum content a bit more.
Maybe my limes are strong or my simple syrup is weak, but I went to 1 oz of the syrup as the 1/2 oz didn't balance out the tartness of the lime. Second was more balanced than the first. I liked the daquiri's but I might consider increasing the rum content a bit more.
quote:Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Made a couple of Daquiri's last night. Both of them made with 2 oz Mt Gay rum and 1 oz of fresh lime juice. Used 1/2 oz simple syrup on first(as recipe calls for) and 1 oz simple syrup on second.
Maybe my limes are strong or my simple syrup is weak, but I went to 1 oz of the syrup as the 1/2 oz didn't balance out the tartness of the lime. Second was more balanced than the first. I liked the daquiri's but I might consider increasing the rum content a bit more.
My general proportion for sour cocktails (Daiquiri, White Lady, Sidecar, Margarita, etc):
2 part booze
1 part sweetener
1 part acid
Cuban Mojito today at work.
quote:Originally posted by mpls wine guy:
Cuban Mojito today at work.
So like, do you have a stocked bar like Don Draper?
Boulevard Manhattan
2 oz Rittenhouse Rye
1 oz Dolin Dry
0.5 oz Grand Marnier
2 dashes orange bitters
2 oz Rittenhouse Rye
1 oz Dolin Dry
0.5 oz Grand Marnier
2 dashes orange bitters
Evenstar Shochu (in place of vodka) and cranberry juice. Tasty 

Wild Turkey 101 Kentucky Mule
New Glarus Spotted Cow.
Barrel Aged Employees Only Manhattan
Santo Libre. Basically a Dominican version of a Cuba Libre:
Brugal Extra Viejo and Sprite
Brugal Extra Viejo and Sprite
Had the family over for brunch on Christmas Eve and was pinched for time so I had to find an alternative to my usual homemade Bloody Mary mix. Grabbed a couple bottles from a local producer - Bloody Revolution - and really enjoyed the "Ribeye" version. Posting this just in case you ever need a fast alternative to homemade that tastes like it was...
Dreary weather so made a Wild Turkey 101 Old Fashioned.
Good thing I bought a handle of WT101...it's been put to good use
Good thing I bought a handle of WT101...it's been put to good use

Gin Gin Mule
Moscow Mules to go with chicken enchilada soup and cornbread.
Last night with friends:
Old Cuban
Penicillin
Old Cuban
Penicillin
Wild Turkey 101 Old Fashioned
Whiskey Sour with that Crown Royal Northern Harvest Rye. Gotta get rid of that stuff somehow.
quote:Originally posted by mneeley490:
Whiskey Sour with that Crown Royal Northern Harvest Rye. Gotta get rid of that stuff somehow.
I feel your pain...
Classic Margarita:
2 parts Olmeca Altos Plata Tequila
1 part lime juice
1 part Cointreau
2 parts Olmeca Altos Plata Tequila
1 part lime juice
1 part Cointreau
Employee only Manhattan
Painkiller
Painkiller
three ounce OBAN 18 year with 1/4 oz water
Last night had a Whiskey Business at Dear Irving.
45 day barrel aged Employees Only Manhattan. Works great in this blizzard 

anyobdy have any wine cocktails?
g-man, why would you do that to wine?
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
g-man, why would you do that to wine?
cuz someone gifted me a whole bunch fo 5-10$ bottles that i can't drink =)
Dark and stormy to start!
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
anyobdy have any wine cocktails?
Besides Sangria...
Tinto de Verano(this my go to to get rid of the cheap stuff)
Equal parts red wine and sprite in a long glass
Red wine "Caipirnha"
1 oz simple syrup (or to taste)
1/2 lime cut into 4 wedges
3 oz red wine
Muddle limes and syrup. Add wine and ice. Stir.
NY Sour
2 parts Bourbon
1 part lemon juice
1 part simple syrup (or to taste)
Red wine (to float)
Shake first 3 ingredients. Strain into ice-filled rocks glass. Float red wine.
Sangree
2 oz red wine
1 oz Bourbon
1 oz simple syrup (or to taste)
Shake and strain into a iced filled rocks glass.
i just tried the ny sour
but i swaped the lemon juice and simple syrup for curacao
not bad, but you dont really taste that much of the wine
but i swaped the lemon juice and simple syrup for curacao
not bad, but you dont really taste that much of the wine
That's the point, isn't it!
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
i just tried the ny sour
but i swaped the lemon juice and simple syrup for curacao
not bad, but you dont really taste that much of the wine
Hmm your version is a very different flavor profile...removing the lemon juice kinda takes the "sour" out of the NY Sour

Off the top of my head, I'd keep the lemon juice on your version for some acid. That way it makes a Bourbon Sidecar with a red wine float. Otherwise it's just booze and sweetner...ie Grog.
Btw try the Tinto de Verano...it's actually quite good. Plus super simple to make.
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:quote:Originally posted by g-man:
i just tried the ny sour
but i swaped the lemon juice and simple syrup for curacao
not bad, but you dont really taste that much of the wine
Hmm your version is a very different flavor profile...removing the lemon juice kinda takes the "sour" out of the NY Sour
Off the top of my head, I'd keep the lemon juice on your version for some acid. That way it makes a Bourbon Sidecar with a red wine float. Otherwise it's just booze and sweetner...ie Grog.
Btw try the Tinto de Verano...it's actually quite good. Plus super simple to make.
fair point
i acutlaly did have to drop in 1/2 lemon in it to get the acidity in.
I'm loving gin at the moment so brambles are in store.
Had a Rum Ramsey last night - always a favorite.
Quite a few of these last night:
Scot's Pear
1.5 oz Black Grouse Scotch
0.25 oz Tawny Port
1 oz pear juice
0.75 oz ginger syrup
0.75 oz lemon juice
Shake and strain into an iced filled rocks glass.
Scot's Pear
1.5 oz Black Grouse Scotch
0.25 oz Tawny Port
1 oz pear juice
0.75 oz ginger syrup
0.75 oz lemon juice
Shake and strain into an iced filled rocks glass.
Had three of these at a restaurant last night...yum 
Michter's Rye Old Fashioned

Michter's Rye Old Fashioned
Using the lemons from our CSA basket to make some bourbon sours with 2002 Evan Williams Single Barrel.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
g-man, why would you do that to wine?
cuz someone gifted me a whole bunch fo 5-10$ bottles that i can't drink =)
Dark and stormy to start!
Kalimotxo
50-50 Cola and Red wine. You can also add a few oz of chambord or ouzo.
Lots of Kentucky Mules last night.
45 day barrel aged Employees Only Manhattan...my favorite Manhattan recipe 

quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Lots of Kentucky Mules last night.
What's this? Bourbon, ginger beer and lime? Moscow Mule with bourbon?
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Lots of Kentucky Mules last night.
What's this? Bourbon, ginger beer and lime? Moscow Mule with bourbon?
Exactly...it's really good

Way too many 45 Day barrel aged Employees Only Manhattans...paying for it today 

Boulevardier:
1.5 oz Maker's Mark
1 oz Campari
1 oz Camparo Antica
1.5 oz Maker's Mark
1 oz Campari
1 oz Camparo Antica
Paper Plane:
3/4 oz. Bourbon
3/4 oz. Aperol
3/4 oz. Amaro Nonino
3/4 oz. Fresh lemon juice
Lemon Twist
3/4 oz. Bourbon
3/4 oz. Aperol
3/4 oz. Amaro Nonino
3/4 oz. Fresh lemon juice
Lemon Twist
Tried a couple of the recipes above but back to
1 part Hendricks
1/2 Campari
1/2 Dolin S vermout
Orange bitters by Fee brothers
Something about old faithful that just keeps on giving.
1 part Hendricks
1/2 Campari
1/2 Dolin S vermout
Orange bitters by Fee brothers
Something about old faithful that just keeps on giving.
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Tried a couple of the recipes above but back to
1 part Hendricks
1/2 Campari
1/2 Dolin S vermout
Orange bitters by Fee brothers
Something about old faithful that just keeps on giving.

Margaritas with Julio tequila, grand marnier, lime juice and syrup. Delish.
Dark n Stormy
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Dark n Stormy
Using Gosling's and Barritts, I hope
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Dark n Stormy
Using Gosling's and Barritts, I hope
nothign wrong with gosling's and gosling's =)
Campari and soda
Various tequilas. All quoted 'the best', none too impressive.
Various tequilas. All quoted 'the best', none too impressive.
Martinis. Dirty with Chopin Vodka and straight with Romeo's Dry Gin.
St. Germaine 75
feels like a gin gin mule night!
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
St. Germaine 75
acutally this looks promising too
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
feels like a gin gin mule night!
we should be drinking more often together
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
St. Germaine 75
acutally this looks promising too
Oh they are excellent - although I can certainly understand someone finding St. Germaine too floral
quote:Originally posted by sarbuze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:
feels like a gin gin mule night!
we should be drinking more often together
Next thirsty Thursday session
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by sarbuze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:
feels like a gin gin mule night!
we should be drinking more often together
Next thirsty Thursday session
Ya i've officially put it on the monthly outlook calendar so no one can try to request a meeting with me.
gin gin mule and a st germaine 75
feeling it as i went heavy on teh gin
feeling it as i went heavy on teh gin
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
gin gin mule and a st germaine 75
feeling it as i went heavy on teh gin
Love the Gin-Gin Mule...may have to get some mint this weekend

Ginger Old Fashioned:
2 oz Wild Turkey 101
1 teaspoon ginger simple syrup
2 dashes orange bitters
2 dashes Angostura bitters
2 oz Wild Turkey 101
1 teaspoon ginger simple syrup
2 dashes orange bitters
2 dashes Angostura bitters
Last night pre-dinner
Watermelon puree
simple syrup
lime
mint
Costco Vodka
Watermelon puree
simple syrup
lime
mint
Costco Vodka
Last night had a White Lady:
2 oz gin
0.5 oz lemon juice
0.5 oz Cointreau
Shake and strain into a cocktail glass.
2 oz gin
0.5 oz lemon juice
0.5 oz Cointreau
Shake and strain into a cocktail glass.
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
PH
Wild Turkey 101 Kentucky Mule
Earl Grey iced tea with gin
What's your recipe PH? I don't think my simple recipe would do well overnight in the fridge.quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
quote:Originally posted by GlennK:What's your recipe PH? I don't think my simple recipe would do well overnight in the fridge.quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
I'd also like to know. I've never attempted make a Margarita.
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by GlennK:What's your recipe PH? I don't think my simple recipe would do well overnight in the fridge.quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
I'd also like to know. I've never attempted make a Margarita.
Not complicated:
Ice, Tequila, Cointreau, Lime Juice - Mix. Add salt. Done.
Some people use simple syrup as well.
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by GlennK:What's your recipe PH? I don't think my simple recipe would do well overnight in the fridge.quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
I'd also like to know. I've never attempted make a Margarita.
Not complicated:
Ice, Tequila, Cointreau, Lime Juice - Mix. Add salt. Done.
Some people use simple syrup as well.
That's my recipe and a.ways a crowd pleaser.
Woodinville Whiskey Co. Bourbon Highball
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
I'd also like to know. I've never attempted make a Margarita.
Traditional Margarita:
2 oz Tequila (Plata or Reposado) - I use Olmeca Altos
1 oz lime juice
1 oz Cointreau
Shake and strain into a Margarita glass.
From this recipe you can make different varieties...such as muddling a slice of jalapeno or adding passionfruit juice, etc.
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Earl Grey iced tea with gin
Hmmm, sounds interesting. It's good?
I'm having a gin (Botanist) and tonic right now.
That's my basic recipe as well. If I'm doing brunch margs I float a little OJ as well. For a twist I muddle cucumber, lime and cilantro and shake with tequila and a little agave.quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by GlennK:What's your recipe PH? I don't think my simple recipe would do well overnight in the fridge.quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
First pitcher of margaritas are marinating in the freezer. I have found that at least 24 hours of rest makes a pitcher of margaritas much better. Kind of like stew. But more fun.
PH
I'd also like to know. I've never attempted make a Margarita.
Not complicated:
Ice, Tequila, Cointreau, Lime Juice - Mix. Add salt. Done.
Some people use simple syrup as well.
I was curious about the marinating part of PH's margarita recipe. In my experience fresh lime juice losses something in the fridge overnight so I was wondering if he was doing something different.
quote:Originally posted by steve8:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
Earl Grey iced tea with gin
Hmmm, sounds interesting. It's good?
I'm having a gin (Botanist) and tonic right now.
It's pretty good.
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