What car are you buying/test driving?

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:
Going to look at a Nissan GT-R

Honesty board-o if you're looking at spending that kind of money I would look at a used Bentley Continental coupe. Huge power, can fit four adults in comfort with their golf clubs, REALLY comfortable, lots of them in Florida to choose from...

I wouldn't even consider it. I have something now I like better than that. The new GT-R is magnificent

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:
Going to look at a Nissan GT-R

Honesty board-o if you're looking at spending that kind of money I would look at a used Bentley Continental coupe. Huge power, can fit four adults in comfort with their golf clubs, REALLY comfortable, lots of them in Florida to choose from...

I wouldn't even consider it. I have something now I like better than that. The new GT-R is magnificent

Really?!? Different strokes I guess... I"ve driven all three (not the 2017 GTR but a 2015). I would put fast/lux coupes in the following order:
1) S-Class Coupe
2) California T
3) Bentley
4) DB9 (very attractive prices with the new DB11 coming out)
5) M6
6) Your Cadillac (a great car esp for the price)

87) Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man


236) Watching 32 hours of the Lawrence Welk Show straight


418) Nissan GT-R

I guess that's why there are so many different cars. Thye first five you list are slower and poorer handling than #6. If you prefer #87 to the Nissan GT-R, and I take your word that you do, you have some serious issues and a medication-prescribing psychiatrist might be of help to you.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:
Going to look at a Nissan GT-R

Honesty board-o if you're looking at spending that kind of money I would look at a used Bentley Continental coupe. Huge power, can fit four adults in comfort with their golf clubs, REALLY comfortable, lots of them in Florida to choose from...

I wouldn't even consider it. I have something now I like better than that. The new GT-R is magnificent

Really?!? Different strokes I guess... I"ve driven all three (not the 2017 GTR but a 2015). I would put fast/lux coupes in the following order:
1) S-Class Coupe
2) California T
3) Bentley
4) DB9 (very attractive prices with the new DB11 coming out)
5) M6
6) Your Cadillac (a great car esp for the price)

87) Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man


236) Watching 32 hours of the Lawrence Welk Show straight


418) Nissan GT-R

just for the record, I will never, ever spend that much $ on a car but in the list above there really is the S-Class Coupe and then the rest.

Ferrari California 0-60 (3.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.0 sec.
Mercedes S63 Coupe 0-60 (3.8 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.2 sec.
BMW M6 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 0-60 (4.0 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Bentley Continental 0-60 (4.3 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.7 sec.
Aston Martin DB9 0-60 (4.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.9 sec.

The Bentley, Ferrari, Aston and Cadillac are all the same vintage as yours for this comparison. A new Continental does 0-60 in 4.0 and a California T does it in 3.5. A DBS instead of more base model DB9 does it in 4.1.

Handling is a personal thing but the Ferrari is by far the fastest, sportiest and best handler. BTW Car & Driver tested the CTS-V Coupe and the M6 in the same test and the lap times were 3:04.2 and 3:04.7. Neither would be as fast as the California on a track and both would be a little faster (1-1.5 sec) than the Continental and S-Coupe.

Obviously the GT-R is a different beast and it's apples to grapefruit.

While I have never owned a GT-R, my thoughts above more than portray my feelings, I would never recommend one to a friend.

How many gas stations can you pass in any of these cars before you need to refuel?

Insurance cost must be terrific.

Of course if you can afford these beasts you don't worry about that.

One thing you need to consider [seriously] is the maintenance cost. The Ferrari engine needs a tune up every few thousand miles, and that is a few thousand bucks each time.

For no reason other than I don't really love cars, I make it a point to spend as little as possible and still get a decent car. By decent, I mean I want it to be reliable, fuel efficient, look pretty nice, and hold my two kids' car seats in the back with ease. That said, I did my research, and ended up buying a 2016 Mazda 6 Touring (not Grand touring, for which they were charging several thousand for better leather and a few tech additions...crazy). I'm very pleased so far. And, at $25k out the door, it was right in the price wheelhouse.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Ferrari California 0-60 (3.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.0 sec.
Mercedes S63 Coupe 0-60 (3.8 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.2 sec.
BMW M6 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Bentley Continental 0-60 (4.3 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.7 sec.
Aston Martin DB9 0-60 (4.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.9 sec.

You said S Coupe, not S63. Ferrari was not mentioned. The CTS-V outperformed all your original list on the Nurnurbgring track.

The Bentley, Ferrari, Aston and Cadillac are all the same vintage as yours for this comparison. A new Continental does 0-60 in 4.0 and a California T does it in 3.5. A DBS instead of more base model DB9 does it in 4.1.



Obviously the GT-R is a different beast and it's apples to grapefruit. 0-6- in th3 2.5-2.7 range)

While I have never owned a GT-R, my thoughts above more than portray my feelings, I would never recommend one to a friend. In other words, you know nothing about cars. That's patently obvious. Enjoy your Prius.

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Ferrari California 0-60 (3.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.0 sec.
Mercedes S63 Coupe 0-60 (3.8 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.2 sec.
BMW M6 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Bentley Continental 0-60 (4.3 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.7 sec.
Aston Martin DB9 0-60 (4.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.9 sec.

You said S Coupe, not S63. Ferrari was not mentioned. The CTS-V outperformed all your original list on the Nurnurbgring track.

The Bentley, Ferrari, Aston and Cadillac are all the same vintage as yours for this comparison. A new Continental does 0-60 in 4.0 and a California T does it in 3.5. A DBS instead of more base model DB9 does it in 4.1.



Obviously the GT-R is a different beast and it's apples to grapefruit. 0-6- in th3 2.5-2.7 range)

While I have never owned a GT-R, my thoughts above more than portray my feelings, I would never recommend one to a friend. In other words, you know nothing about cars. That's patently obvious. Enjoy your Prius.

The California (which I mentioned as #2) is of course the Ferrari California....

Board-O, I've held an F.I.A. competition license, have served on the North American advisory board of a major German sportscar manufacturer and have been an internationally certified driving instructor for Porsche and Ferrari for almost 15 years. I've forgotten more about cars than you will likely ever be able to comprehend.

And I don't own a Prius.

I love this thread.

As all may know, I am both completely utilitarian and cheap when it comes to cars. To each their own.

Why anyone would need or want one of these high performance cars is beyond me though as I don't see any need to have a car that can go 200 MPH or accelerate at that pace and frankly it is dangerous having idiots on the roads in vehicles like that

I was thinking of a used Porsche, but I'm now considering a Subaru for my next car because I like their commercials with the golden retrievers.

I'm with you DoubleD (though I think your statement was in jest). I am pretty sure that one day I'll own a late 70's Ford truck, just because I still love Dazed and Confused, and think it'd be a lot of fun to sit on a lawn chair in the bed of the truck listening to Skynyrd and drinking some Budweiser (or chenin blanc just to keep it apropos to this forum)

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Ferrari California 0-60 (3.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.0 sec.
Mercedes S63 Coupe 0-60 (3.8 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.2 sec.
BMW M6 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Bentley Continental 0-60 (4.3 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.7 sec.
Aston Martin DB9 0-60 (4.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.9 sec.

You said S Coupe, not S63. Ferrari was not mentioned. The CTS-V outperformed all your original list on the Nurnurbgring track.

The Bentley, Ferrari, Aston and Cadillac are all the same vintage as yours for this comparison. A new Continental does 0-60 in 4.0 and a California T does it in 3.5. A DBS instead of more base model DB9 does it in 4.1.



Obviously the GT-R is a different beast and it's apples to grapefruit. 0-6- in th3 2.5-2.7 range)

While I have never owned a GT-R, my thoughts above more than portray my feelings, I would never recommend one to a friend. In other words, you know nothing about cars. That's patently obvious. Enjoy your Prius.

The California (which I mentioned as #2) is of course the Ferrari California....

Board-O, I've held an F.I.A. competition license, have served on the North American advisory board of a major German sportscar manufacturer and have been an internationally certified driving instructor for Porsche and Ferrari for almost 15 years. I've forgotten more about cars than you will likely ever be able to comprehend.

And I don't own a Prius.

OK, expert. Tell me one thing wrong with 2017 Nissan GT-R. Name one thing that makes you prefer "Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man" to a 2017 GTR. Waiting for some made-up BS reason.

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Originally posted by FL Wino:
How many gas stations can you pass in any of these cars before you need to refuel?

Insurance cost must be terrific.

Of course if you can afford these beasts you don't worry about that.

One thing you need to consider [seriously] is the maintenance cost. The Ferrari engine needs a tune up every few thousand miles, and that is a few thousand bucks each time.

Ain't that the truth. My younger brother bought a used 355 Spider a number of years ago, by all accounts in great shape. The oil changes were obnoxious, something like $300 IIRC (that's probably low). His car was coming up for the 15,000 mile recommended tune up and Ferrari quoted him ~$12K for it...preventative maintenance.
He sold it shortly after that before I could get up there to drive it.

I knew right then, that I'd most likely never own one. At a buck a mile I'd have to think twice about taking it out and driving it and that's just not how I roll. I like to use my toys, not just look at them.

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Originally posted by Board-O:

OK, expert. Tell me one thing wrong with 2017 Nissan GT-R. Name one thing that makes you prefer "Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man" to a 2017 GTR. Waiting for some made-up BS reason.

That reminded me of a good line by a car salesman. I was looking at a Jaguar F-Type coupe a couple of months ago at the nearby dealership, and they had a bright red one in the showroom. I was reading the options list on the windshield, and judging by the total price this car seemed to be fully loaded. A salesman came up behind me and made some mundane comment about how lovely the car was. I turned around and asked him if there was anything at all this this particular car didn't have.

Without skipping a beat, he replied, "Just you in the driver's seat, sir."

My wife and I still laugh about that every time we go past the dealership.

Really enjoying the 2015 Lexus GS350 F-sport I'm leasing. Quite an upgrade from my Acura TL.

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Board-O:

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Ferrari California 0-60 (3.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.0 sec.
Mercedes S63 Coupe 0-60 (3.8 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.2 sec.
BMW M6 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 0-60 (3.9 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.1 sec.
Bentley Continental 0-60 (4.3 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.7 sec.
Aston Martin DB9 0-60 (4.6 sec.) - Quarter Mile 12.9 sec.

You said S Coupe, not S63. Ferrari was not mentioned. The CTS-V outperformed all your original list on the Nurnurbgring track.

The Bentley, Ferrari, Aston and Cadillac are all the same vintage as yours for this comparison. A new Continental does 0-60 in 4.0 and a California T does it in 3.5. A DBS instead of more base model DB9 does it in 4.1.



Obviously the GT-R is a different beast and it's apples to grapefruit. 0-6- in th3 2.5-2.7 range)

While I have never owned a GT-R, my thoughts above more than portray my feelings, I would never recommend one to a friend. In other words, you know nothing about cars. That's patently obvious. Enjoy your Prius.

The California (which I mentioned as #2) is of course the Ferrari California....

Board-O, I've held an F.I.A. competition license, have served on the North American advisory board of a major German sportscar manufacturer and have been an internationally certified driving instructor for Porsche and Ferrari for almost 15 years. I've forgotten more about cars than you will likely ever be able to comprehend.

And I don't own a Prius.

OK, expert. Tell me one thing wrong with 2017 Nissan GT-R. Name one thing that makes you prefer "Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man" to a 2017 GTR. Waiting for some made-up BS reason.

I know nothing about the car, but I would be interested in a reason why it sucks so much.

Once you're at these performance levels, one or two decimal points in 0-100 or quarter mile times are completely meaningless. No one would notice them. Unless you're an experienced racer and you're racing your car at the Nürburgring on a regular basis. Even then, the skill of the driver would almost always far outweigh these performance differences in an outcome of a race.

What matters is almost entirely personal - i.e. do you like the design and is the handling/feel of the car to your liking or not.

Not to mention the desire to impress people or one-up your neighbour.

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Originally posted by Board-O:

OK, expert. Tell me one thing wrong with 2017 Nissan GT-R. Name one thing that makes you prefer "Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man" to a 2017 GTR. Waiting for some made-up BS reason.[/QUOTE]

Well I don't know about Rob, but I just don't like the design. To each their own.

But I would choose a GT-R over "Getting buggered by a Thai Lady-Man", despite the design. Just to be clear.