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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:
I'm gonna fly the practical flag until Ari shows up Smile


Love it! Smile I have to say, I LOVE the Mazda. I love the bells and whistles (which may not be as many as on other cars, but I was coming from an 8 year old, then-top-of-the-line, Honda Element with not even bluetooth...)

I'm glad I am not terribly into cars... more money to spend on wine!
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
.......but of course it didn't say BMW or Audi or Mercedes on the outside, so I'm sure it wasn't prestigious enough for Patek Philippe wearing people.


Damn, Board-O!!! Did someone wearing a PP cut you off in their Range Rover??? LOL

PH


No. Just responding to the exponential proliferation of pretentious posts lately.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by jorgerunfrombulls:
This is a great option for city drivers that still need that performance...


I would simply be afraid to get into a SmartCar. I like just a little more sheet metal around me.

PH


Did you see the video??

The doors open on their own!!

I'd be terrified of that thing, but you gotta love the evil genius who decided to put a 1300cc performance motorcycle engine into a smart.
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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:

My FJ's blue book is 92% of the purchase price. That's at age 6.

How is this possible? That is a remarkable figure! I really love the FJ... The fun part of me would love to find an old LandCruiser from the 70s and use it for the mountains... Those things are indestructible, and look so cool.
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Originally posted by jorgerunfrombulls:
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by jorgerunfrombulls:
This is a great option for city drivers that still need that performance...


I would simply be afraid to get into a SmartCar. I like just a little more sheet metal around me.

PH


Did you see the video??

The doors open on their own!!

I'd be terrified of that thing, but you gotta love the evil genius who decided to put a 1300cc performance motorcycle engine into a smart.


Yeah, I took a look. Evil genius indeed.

PH
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
I just don't see Porsche and Maserati in the same class of automobiles.

Nothing against the Maserati, but not equivalent in my world.....

PH
Oh there is no doubt that Porsche is the better driving machine, but that is not what I’m looking for. I want something that looks and feels nice to me and that has some punch when I get on the highway. I’m not looking to race anyone on the mean streets of OC. Smile
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
.....If I was getting something sporty like that, I would go for a Maserati over a Porsche.


Blasphemy......

PH


Funny I guess how markets are so different.

In our market, Maserati is clearly an old man car, and Porsche is a weekend car for many guys, and a weekday car for young women.
In OC Porsche seems to be the go to car for the early 50’s guy that is recently divorced, sporting a very unnatural orange tan, bad veneers, hair darker than when they were 16 and wearing clothes that are way too young for them. There are tons of them on the road around here. The older guys with a bit more style are rocking a nice benz, MB or Bentley.

Of course that is a major generality and I’m sure there are plenty of true car lovers around here that have Porsches because they are a great driver’s car. I just have never loved the look of them, although my wife does like the Cayenne.
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Originally posted by g-man:
isn't porsche owned by Volkswagen?

kinda like yer driving a glorified audi ;-)

Volkswagon now owns the majority stake in Porsche, but most of the lines are kept separate. (The Cayenne is basically a VW Toureg and they are introducing another SUV based upon the Audi Q5). FWIW: VW also owns substantial interest in Bugatti and (I believe controlling) interest in Lamborghini. The Lambo Gallardo and Audi R8 are the same basic car.
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
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Originally posted by Board-O:

No. Just responding to the exponential proliferation of pretentious posts lately.



Wow! I bet in grade school you were put into the Advanced Alliteration class. Smile


It was unintentional.
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Originally posted by CSM:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
The Lambo Gallardo and Audi R8 are the same basic car.


Isn't it the S8 that has the same engine as the Lambo Gallardo?

No. The S8 is an A8 with a super-supercharged engine and various other improvements. The R8 GT actually has the exact same engine as the Gallardo, and the R8 5.2 has virtually the same engine, just slightly tuned down. Also, same platform, technology, etc.
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Originally posted by CSM:
This says the 2007 S8's engine was sourced from the Gallardo. Not sure exactly what that means, but assuming that the engine was a derivative of, though not exactly the same as, the Gallardo's engine.

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/1...w-v10-from-gallardo/

The S8, in its current form, uses a super-super charged 4 liter V-8 seen here.

The R8 uses the normally aspirated 5.2 Liter V-10 first developed for the Gallardo that can be seen here once you click on the 5.2L engine.

The R8 also shares the same platform and technology* as the Gallardo whereas the S8 is just an A8 with some improvements for performance.

Audi shifts around its engines a lot, and especially as of recent as their turbo technology has really taken off. So one engine being in a car 5 or 6 years ago has very little chance of having much to do with what exists now. For example, neither of the currently available A6 engines nor the S6 engine were available for the -6 body 5 years ago, and only one of the currently available engines (the 2.0T) existed in any form in any Audi at all (and it had substantially less power back then).

*There may be differences in the non manual shifting option depending upon exact year and model.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by CSM:
This says the 2007 S8's engine was sourced from the Gallardo. Not sure exactly what that means, but assuming that the engine was a derivative of, though not exactly the same as, the Gallardo's engine.

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/1...w-v10-from-gallardo/

The S8, in its current form, uses a super-super charged 4 liter V-8 seen here.

The R8 uses the normally aspirated 5.2 Liter V-10 first developed for the Gallardo that can be seen here once you click on the 5.2L engine.

The R8 also shares the same platform and technology* as the Gallardo whereas the S8 is just an A8 with some improvements for performance.

Audi shifts around its engines a lot, and especially as of recent as their turbo technology has really taken off. So one engine being in a car 5 or 6 years ago has very little chance of having much to do with what exists now. For example, neither of the currently available A6 engines nor the S6 engine were available for the -6 body 5 years ago, and only one of the currently available engines (the 2.0T) existed in any form in any Audi at all (and it had substantially less power back then).

*There may be differences in the non manual shifting option depending upon exact year and model.


Starting to save my nickels for the upcoming RS5. Not the current one. Hearing they are throwing their 4.0 with a twin turbo in it that they've been developing for quite some time now. That is going to be a beautiful machine.
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Originally posted by T Dub:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by CSM:
This says the 2007 S8's engine was sourced from the Gallardo. Not sure exactly what that means, but assuming that the engine was a derivative of, though not exactly the same as, the Gallardo's engine.

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/1...w-v10-from-gallardo/

The S8, in its current form, uses a super-super charged 4 liter V-8 seen here.

The R8 uses the normally aspirated 5.2 Liter V-10 first developed for the Gallardo that can be seen here once you click on the 5.2L engine.

The R8 also shares the same platform and technology* as the Gallardo whereas the S8 is just an A8 with some improvements for performance.

Audi shifts around its engines a lot, and especially as of recent as their turbo technology has really taken off. So one engine being in a car 5 or 6 years ago has very little chance of having much to do with what exists now. For example, neither of the currently available A6 engines nor the S6 engine were available for the -6 body 5 years ago, and only one of the currently available engines (the 2.0T) existed in any form in any Audi at all (and it had substantially less power back then).

*There may be differences in the non manual shifting option depending upon exact year and model.


Starting to save my nickels for the upcoming RS5. Not the current one. Hearing they are throwing their 4.0 with a twin turbo in it that they've been developing for quite some time now. That is going to be a beautiful machine.

For serious. I didn't hear about that but that would be amazing.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
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Originally posted by Board-O:

No. Just responding to the exponential proliferation of pretentious posts lately.



Wow! I bet in grade school you were put into the Advanced Alliteration class. Smile


It was unintentional.

I'm positive the proliferation of pathetically pretentious posts portends potential problems.
The last S6 and S8 had the V10 shared with the Gallardo. Different tune for more torque and less horsepower but same basic engine.

VW owns all of Bugatti and Lamborghini as well as 100% of Porsche (as of a couple of weeks ago). Of course the Porsche Family now owns 49% and a massive controlling interest in VW...
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:

My FJ's blue book is 92% of the purchase price. That's at age 6.

How is this possible? That is a remarkable figure! I really love the FJ... The fun part of me would love to find an old LandCruiser from the 70s and use it for the mountains... Those things are indestructible, and look so cool.


My friend Ron has an 07 and he clued me in, I actually didn't know and had to look it up. I payed 24,650 and current blue book is 22,800. From a few people what I've heard is they are just in super short supply, especially used, and dealers can flip them in less than 48 hours.
Been trying to get my coworker to get the Audi A6/A7. Keep telling him that a speaker comes up from the dashboard and that he needs it.

With the soon to be +1 in the family, I got rid of my G37 and got a Honda Pilot (Seats 8 or 5 + 2 giant dogs)

For my birthday, my wife got me a super car tour in Las Vegas. Test drove the Ferrari 458 Italia, Lamborghini LP570 Performante Spyder, and a new Porsche 911 Carrera S. While the Porsche won Motor Trend's best driver's car this year, the Ferrari 458 Italia is by far the sweetest car I've ever driven.

The Honda Pilot just doesn't drive quite as well!
Glenn, I know it's different in Europe with all our "smoke burners" but I'm lucky enough to have owned 5 MBs (E-class, C-class, CLK and SLK), 1 Audi (100 series) and 3 BMWs (3 series and 5 series) over the years, of which 3 were common rail direct injection diesel with particulate filters.

I bought my F10 5 series 20 months ago and it's simply awesome and well equipped as standard compared to Audi. It has the suspension compliance of a MB W124, the comfort of a limousine, the handling of a large sports car and astounding performance and economy. The new 8 speed sports auto boxes are a sheer delight and really do tailor the car to effortless performance.

My wife's SLK280 7sp auto is more fun and sounds better with the roof off but is harder to drive and probably no quicker over a longer run.

My servicing bills are way less than MB and Audi but maybe that's a UK dealership thing. I negotiated a 5 years service pack in with the F10.
As some of you know, my S4 was stolen from my driveway recently.

Would you consider the E63 AMG wagon? More $ but power out of my As!, new S4 or new s6?

Please consider that I like the S4 because it was understated and I have 2 babies. (My wife made me write that) Razz

Love the E63 AMG wagon but a MB - I'm under 40 - really?
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Originally posted by mangiare:
As some of you know, my S4 was stolen from my driveway recently.

Would you consider the E63 AMG wagon? More $ but power out of my As!, new S4 or new s6?

Please consider that I like the S4 because it was understated and I have 2 babies. (My wife made me write that) Razz

Love the E63 AMG wagon but a MB - I'm under 40 - really?

Mangiare- I am so sorry to hear about that... that is horrible. I hope new car shopping will help take away some of the sting. As for MB, the E63 ain't your grand-daddy's Benz. That car is badass at any age. Are you considering the S4 is wagon format as well? If you are thinking sedan for S4, I would probably lean that way, but if you are considering wagon for both, I gotta give the nod to the E-wagon. You'll look good behind the wheel of either however, and those are two wagons that even the kids will be proud to get dropped off to school in.
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Originally posted by Vino Bevo:
Just picked up a limited edition (1 of 400 total for the U.S.) MINI Countryman S for my wife today. Many thanks to shavez who turned her on to the fact this version was coming!


Hey, that's awesome! Please pass on my regards and congratulate her for me...
SDW - I'm undecided if i actually like the A7 and doesn't come in the S version in my market.
TPE - The S4 doesn't come in wagon format in our market. It would be a sedan.
The only reason I'm considering the E63 wagon is I buy sprinter trucks from a MB dealer and my contact is all over me with a really good deal that is hard to pass up. I am a little concerned about clients perception of the MB. The other factor is the S4 and E63 are ready for pick-up while the S6 would be March 2013. Geez, just looked at the E63 wagon again and its real nice. The question is - is it too much? regarding perception?
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Originally posted by mangiare:
SDW - I'm undecided if i actually like the A7 and doesn't come in the S version in my market.
TPE - The S4 doesn't come in wagon format in our market. It would be a sedan.
The only reason I'm considering the E63 wagon is I buy sprinter trucks from a MB dealer and my contact is all over me with a really good deal that is hard to pass up. I am a little concerned about clients perception of the MB. The other factor is the S4 and E63 are ready for pick-up while the S6 would be March 2013. Geez, just looked at the E63 wagon again and its real nice. The question is - is it too much? regarding perception?


What did you end up getting. I'm also driving an S4. So sorry to hear about your loss. I love my car and would say you should stay with Audi.

The new S6 looks sick!
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Originally posted by T Dub:
I test drove a lot of cars early this year and ended up with an Audi S4. I have to admit by far this is the most fun; technologically advanced car I have ever owned.

For the record, T Dub's car is EXTREMELY cool. How cool? Quite possibly the coolest car in which I have been a passenger. Although, my brother's GTI Rabbit was pretty cool in 1986. Big Grin
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Originally posted by mangiare:
SDW - I'm undecided if i actually like the A7 and doesn't come in the S version in my market.
TPE - The S4 doesn't come in wagon format in our market. It would be a sedan.
The only reason I'm considering the E63 wagon is I buy sprinter trucks from a MB dealer and my contact is all over me with a really good deal that is hard to pass up. I am a little concerned about clients perception of the MB. The other factor is the S4 and E63 are ready for pick-up while the S6 would be March 2013. Geez, just looked at the E63 wagon again and its real nice. The question is - is it too much? regarding perception?


You don't think I'm cool!?! I have an e500 4matic wagon and I love it. And it's totally cool. When I replace it probably late 2013 an E63 wagon is on my very short shortlist (along with a RangeRover, GL350 diesel & tesla).

I've driven the e63 a number of times and it is a whole lot of fun. You aren't an old man for getting one (now buying an s-class is a different story). Even with the new engine its a bit of a gas pig around town but it's worth it. The problem is you will hardly ever use all the power.

It's a much better car the the A7 (I can't like the looks no matter how much I try). Now, the e-class is about to get a facelift and the new one looks much better. Probably the reason you might be getting a deal. Some people will look at the car and say "solid family man", others (who know what it is) will say "q-ship maniacal baller".
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Originally posted by gigabit:
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Originally posted by T Dub:
I test drove a lot of cars early this year and ended up with an Audi S4. I have to admit by far this is the most fun; technologically advanced car I have ever owned.

For the record, T Dub's car is EXTREMELY cool. How cool? Quite possibly the coolest car in which I have been a passenger. Although, my brother's GTI Rabbit was pretty cool in 1986. Big Grin


To be fair; my car isn't exactly stock. Big Grin
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Originally posted by mangiare:
I ended up getting a 2013 S4. It's no E63 but it was the right call for me right now.

I likey so far.


Sweet. I'm starting come around on the new front end. Although I still prefer the "old" led's.

Good friend of mine just picked up and RS5. Really beautiful car but he's still pissed that all he sees are my tailights.
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Originally posted by T Dub:
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Originally posted by gigabit:
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Originally posted by T Dub:
I test drove a lot of cars early this year and ended up with an Audi S4. I have to admit by far this is the most fun; technologically advanced car I have ever owned.

For the record, T Dub's car is EXTREMELY cool. How cool? Quite possibly the coolest car in which I have been a passenger. Although, my brother's GTI Rabbit was pretty cool in 1986. Big Grin


To be fair; my car isn't exactly stock. Big Grin


I remember as a teenager my dad had an Audi 200 Turbo with the full ABT RS2 stage 3 or 4 kit on it. I think it made just over 400bhp which in the early 90's was a whole whole lot. It was fun showing up Porsche turbos Devilish

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