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  • 2009 Brasserie a Vapeur Saison "Cochonne" - Belgium, Wallonie (12/29/2010)
    – popped and poured –
    – tasted non-blind over 45 minutes from a goblet –
    – tasted from a capped and corked 750 mL –
    – date of 14/2014 was printed on the cap –

    NOSE: warm Belgian spices; new plastic/hint of sweet spearmint; apple; mixed nuts bowl.

    BODY: tan-orange color with almost no head; medium bodied.

    TASTE: very malty, with a strong alcohol presence (9% abv); stony/cementy/pebbly kind of hoppiness; oxidized apple; would definitely improve with age, as proven by some 14 year-old bottles that I had earlier this year. This is fairly complex, and would be a nice change of pace for those who enjoy Tripels. I didn’t really like this because it’s not my style, but I tried to ignore that when scoring. If I buy another bottle, I need to sit on it for 10 years so it can have the chance to pick up the funky sour notes of the older bottles from earlier this year.

    B: 50, 5, 12, 18, 8 = 93

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Would love to try pliny one day.


Yo King, had the same desire and ended up tasting one at a tavern with a friend, nice stuff fo sho... Just an, fyi... K and L sells it but I think you need to live in Cali to buy it for some reason.. they get it in small lots and it goes pretty quickly.

Cheers and good luck with finding it.


I know I am in the minority with this one, but I feel that Pliny is one of the most OVERrated IPAs.

Yup, you are undoubtedly in the minority. FWIW, I think "the Younger" is even better than "the Elder."
All of these were on tap, except the two Jolly Pumpkins.

Dogfish Head - “Burton Baton” (English Old Ale / Imperial IPA blend)
Tastes quite boozy (and it is, at 10% abv) – vodka-like booziness; deep copper/orange color; hoppy, for sure, but the Old Ale is too much sweetness for me; this comes across as a hoppy Barley wine to me. I don’t like it.

Black Diamond - “Rampage” DIPA
Lots of citrusy hops on the Nose. Rather clean mouthfeel; lots of hops; not too heavy; citrusy; medium bodied; very well-done.

Rodenbach - Grand Cru
Sour; complex; wine-like; just as it’s always been.

Russian River Brewing Company - “Consecration”
This was on “secret tap.” Very oaky on the palate – moderate+ oak; Sour; medium-light bodied; a bit of bretty spiciness. Very good, although I think I do prefer it from bottle.

Anderson Valley Brewing Company - “Bahl Hornin’” Black IPA
Tastes a bit smoky. Well-balanced; good roasted maltiness. I enjoyed this.

Jolly Pumpkin - “Calabaza Blanca” Belgian-style White Ale
From bottle. Tinge of sourness; typical Belgian witte flavors; very good drinkability; spiced with orange peel and coriander; really good for what it is, but I’m just not that into what it is, so I could take it or leave it. Batch 406.

Jolly Pumpkin - “Bierre de Bam” Farmhouse Ale
From bottle. Same as it’s always been: light; very drinkable; 4.2% alc.; noticeable sourness and bretty character on the palate. Love this beer. Batch 406/408.

Racer 5
This was an “on the house” pint that I suspect I “earned” by pushing our tab for the day to about $140. Same as its always been. At this point in the evening, I didn’t exactly need one more beer, but given my prior negotiating out of driving responsibilities, I went for it anyways.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
We are having a blind beer tasting tonight. (12 total)

I will report tomorrow which of the beers were showing the best.

Do tell, please, your impressions of the beers of Munich...


KSC02, I enjoyed the some 100+ beers I had a great deal, including the three personal tours of breweries.

My impression is there is greater enthusiasm for beer in Bavaria than in Belgium, but the beer in Belgium is better, more complex and far more diverse overall.
We had a blind beer tasting (14) at our home last night. We included beer from Germany, Belgium, United States, Czechoslovakia and Ireland. There was a clear winner, then a tie for 2nd - 5th. Smile

Our results:

1.Westvleteren 8 Trappist (received all first place votes)

The following all received the same amount of votes. Eek

Westmalle Trappist
Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier Dark
The Lost Abbey 10 Commandments
The Lost Abbey Gift of the Magi
After a nice night of eating and drinking some great wines, we popped "Three Philosophers" a Belgian ale crafted in Cooperstown, N.Y. This was terrific. Very creamy with a bit of a cherry nose. Stuffed it in the snow for about an hour before opening. Drink it really cold. Not sure this would be such a great drink at a warmer temperature.

Bob
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Originally posted by Bdublu:
After a nice night of eating and drinking some great wines, we popped "Three Philosophers" a Belgian ale crafted in Cooperstown, N.Y. This was terrific. Very creamy with a bit of a cherry nose. Stuffed it in the snow for about an hour before opening. Drink it really cold. Not sure this would be such a great drink at a warmer temperature.

Bob


I can't remember if 3P is either a dubbel or a Belgian Strong Dark but you would be surprised at how much it opens up with a touch of warmth to it.

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