Next week is the wife's b-day. 2004 lafite, 2005 chateau pavie and a 2006 haut brion
2001 dyquem half bottle for desert. Can't wait
Pete, I've never had any of the wines you mentioned but with the exception of the Sauternes, those other wines shouldn't be touched for quite a while. Especially the Pavie. I've had much lower level Bordeaux from those vintages, and only the simpler ones from 2004 are drinking decently. You sure you want to open those?
Damn, I sound like Board-O! He would likely make a much stronger case than me though, with experience of that caliber of juice.
Damn, I sound like Board-O! He would likely make a much stronger case than me though, with experience of that caliber of juice.

I was thinking the same but want to crack something special for her b-day. If not, I have some older sine qua non eba's I could dip into, just not the same.
Would like to hear others suggestions and see if concensus is to not open them. I am listening with open ears.
Peter
Would like to hear others suggestions and see if concensus is to not open them. I am listening with open ears.
Peter
billhike is on the money. Leave those Bordeaux alone. Depending on your location, you might find a formumite who'd be willing to swap some "ready to open" BDX for your infants.
PH
PH
Ditto Bill. Ditto PH.
When you mean "just not the same" I'd translate that to mean, "they'll be better."
Those young Bdx wines will be tannic bruisers, nowhere near ready to open. The SQN juice you have should drink MUCH better and be a more pleasant way to spend your bride's birthday.
If you don't want to dip into those either, Champagne is always in style.
When you mean "just not the same" I'd translate that to mean, "they'll be better."
Those young Bdx wines will be tannic bruisers, nowhere near ready to open. The SQN juice you have should drink MUCH better and be a more pleasant way to spend your bride's birthday.
If you don't want to dip into those either, Champagne is always in style.
1997 Beaulieu Vineyards Georges De Latour Private Reserve Cabernet.
I agree with these guys as well. I don't even think a ton of decanting will help these wines open to even close to what you want. I'd go with the sqn's.quote:Originally posted by indybob:
Ditto Bill. Ditto PH.
When you mean "just not the same" I'd translate that to mean, "they'll be better."
Those young Bdx wines will be tannic bruisers, nowhere near ready to open. The SQN juice you have should drink MUCH better and be a more pleasant way to spend your bride's birthday.
If you don't want to dip into those either, Champagne is always in style.
advice taken. Going pop the SQN's and also pick up a bottle of champagne. Thanks for the advice. I think I will re-thank you all in 5-10 years when i do pop them
10 rather than 5 would be my recommendation.
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
10 rather than 5 would be my recommendation.
Yup.
Where are you located Drpete12? If you had your heart set on opening good Bordeaux for your wife's birthday I still think you could pull off a trade. You certainly have good trade bait.
PH
2006 Ash Hollow Syrah.
Going to give this botle about 5 hours of air and see if it settles down any.
Going to give this botle about 5 hours of air and see if it settles down any.
1990 Rauzan Segla
1990 Ornellaia
1990 Ornellaia
1989 Leoville Barton
1997 Suduiraut
1997 Suduiraut
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
1990 Rauzan Segla
1990 Ornellaia
quote:Originally posted by VinT:
1989 Leoville Barton
1997 Suduiraut
wow. very nice gents.
quote:wow. very nice gents.
+1
We're actually having dinner together with the Mrs. on the weekend. 

quote:We're actually having dinner together with the Mrs. on the weekend
That could lead to dancing.......
1986 Ch. Talbot
quote:Originally posted by vinoevelo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mangiare:
1990 Rauzan Segla
1990 Ornellaia
quote:Originally posted by VinT:
1989 Leoville Barton
1997 Suduiraut[/QUOTE
wow. very nice gents.
Very nice lineup! I'm interested in how the 97 Suduiraut shows.
quote:Originally posted by indybob:
1986 Ch. Talbot
Had it a few months ago. One of the few 1986s I've had that seemed just about ready.
2000 d'Issan
2003 Tollot-Beaut Corton-Bressandes
2003 Tollot-Beaut Corton-Bressandes
quote:Originally posted by VinCentric:quote:Originally posted by vinoevelo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mangiare:
1990 Rauzan Segla
1990 Ornellaiaquote:Originally posted by VinT:
1989 Leoville Barton
1997 Suduiraut[/QUOTE
wow. very nice gents.
Very nice lineup! I'm interested in how the 97 Suduiraut shows.
Ditto. Also would be interested in why you stood up a Sauternes.....
PH
quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Ditto. Also would be interested in why you stood up a Sauternes.....
PH
Good question! Certainly not to settle sediment, as there is none in the bottle. I just kinda pulled it from the back of the cellar and stood it next the LB to grab and go for dinner. I'm not doing harm by standing it for a few days, am I?
No harm at all.
PH
PH
quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
No harm at all.
PH
i stand it so i get that nasty petrol up on the top and hopefully it blows off when i pop the cork!
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
No harm at all.
PH
i stand it so i get that nasty petrol up on the top and hopefully it blows off when i pop the cork!
Petrol in Sauternes?
PH
1990 A. Conterno Vigna Cicala (Magnum) for a truffle dinner in early December. Had this from a 750 recently and it was stellar.
Barolo and truffle is my all time favorite food and wine pairing. Have fun and please post notes!quote:Originally posted by Longboarder:
1990 A. Conterno Vigna Cicala (Magnum) for a truffle dinner in early December. Had this from a 750 recently and it was stellar.
quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
No harm at all.
PH
i stand it so i get that nasty petrol up on the top and hopefully it blows off when i pop the cork!
Petrol in Sauternes?
PH
yea definitely the older ones especially get that petrol stink that I don't enjoy
it smells like too much sulfur was dumped in the wine
1989 Quilceda Creek Cabernet Sauvignon
1982 Spotteswoode Cabernet Sauvignon
1997 Kistler Cuvee Catherine Pinot Noir
1982 Spotteswoode Cabernet Sauvignon
1997 Kistler Cuvee Catherine Pinot Noir
1999 Ridge Lytton Springs.
2002 Marcassin Estate Pinot Noir
1997 Lisini BdM Ugolaia
1997 Lisini BdM Ugolaia
Love to hear your thoughts on the Lisini. I opened one several years ago that I felt was wasted due to being opened too soon.quote:Originally posted by stickman:
2002 Marcassin Estate Pinot Noir
1997 Lisini BdM Ugolaia
For consumption in the next week:
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
No harm at all.
PH
i stand it so i get that nasty petrol up on the top and hopefully it blows off when i pop the cork!
Petrol in Sauternes?
PH
yea definitely the older ones especially get that petrol stink that I don't enjoy
it smells like too much sulfur was dumped in the wine
That's a new one for me. I've picked up molasses, burnt sugar, spice, from the darker ones; light, diminished fruit from the lighter ones, and caramel, fruit, spice... from those in between - but never petrol from an older Sauternes.
1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
quote:Originally posted by VinCentric:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
No harm at all.
PH
i stand it so i get that nasty petrol up on the top and hopefully it blows off when i pop the cork!
Petrol in Sauternes?
PH
yea definitely the older ones especially get that petrol stink that I don't enjoy
it smells like too much sulfur was dumped in the wine
That's a new one for me. I've picked up molasses, burnt sugar, spice, from the darker ones; light, diminished fruit from the lighter ones, and caramel, fruit, spice... from those in between - but never petrol from an older Sauternes.
i certainly may be drinking the wrong ones. oldest one i've had was a chateau de malle from 58. It was ... interesting.
quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
For consumption in the next week:
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH

quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
For consumption in the next week:
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH
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No shit. Especially the Rostaing. Wish it was my birthday.

quote:1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
How was it?
quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:quote:1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
How was it?
It's standing for now. I'll let you after the weekend

I'm drooling on my keyboard thinking about it.
quote:Originally posted by steve8:quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
For consumption in the next week:
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH
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No shit. Especially the Rostaing. Wish it was my birthday.![]()
Same here, wish my friends would open stuff like that on my BDay

quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:quote:1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
How was it?
It's standing for now. I'll let you after the weekend![]()
Sweet, hope it shows well for you K. We need to do a LaLa OL.

quote:Originally posted by Gkapoor:
We need to do a LaLa OL.![]()
Indeed!
When are you up here again?

1985 Las Cases
quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:quote:1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
How was it?
It's standing for now. I'll let you after the weekend![]()
When is the b-day?
quote:Originally posted by Vinaigre:quote:Originally posted by steve8:quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
For consumption in the next week:
1997 Ornellaia
1998 Pegau Cuvee Reservee
1995 Rostaing Cote Rotie Cote Blonde
PH
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No shit. Especially the Rostaing. Wish it was my birthday.![]()
Same here, wish my friends would open stuff like that on my BDay![]()
Hey! I just said I was standing them up for consumption this week. Didn't say when!!

PH
1998 Le Bon Pasteur
2000 Clerc Milon
Bordeaux theme for our small wine group's dinner on Saturday.
2000 Clerc Milon
Bordeaux theme for our small wine group's dinner on Saturday.
1995 Hommage a Jacques Perrin
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La Turque
I'm going to take care of myself!
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La Turque

I hope you'll post notes on the Hommage.
quote:Originally posted by KSC02:
1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
Making sure this is your WOTY? Hope it shows as well as the bottle we had in Montreal.
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by indybob:
1986 Ch. Talbot
Had it a few months ago. One of the few 1986s I've had that seemed just about ready.
I only have one bottle of this, and other wines from the same cellar (bought at LWS) have been excellent. Would you define "just about ready" as within an optimal window, or as hold? I've no problem in laying this one back down.
I think, unlike most 1986s I've had, it's within its drinking window. I wouldn't be in a hurry to drink it, but I don't think it will improve much.
quote:Originally posted by Impulse:
1995 Hommage a Jacques Perrin
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La TurqueI'm going to take care of myself!
It's not my only one, impulse. I will share my other with you.

Congrats on your b'day, and the Hommage. Very nice indeed!
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
I think, unlike most 1986s I've had, it's within its drinking window. I wouldn't be in a hurry to drink it, but I don't think it will improve much.
Thanks for the additional thoughts. It's standing, and I have a date in mind, so will likely open this month.
Going to celebrate tonight!
Jean Milan Grand Reserve Grand Cru Blanc De Blancs Brut Champagne
1989 La Chapelle
1990 Rauzan Segla
1997 Lisini

Jean Milan Grand Reserve Grand Cru Blanc De Blancs Brut Champagne
1989 La Chapelle
1990 Rauzan Segla
1997 Lisini
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Going to celebrate tonight!![]()
Jean Milan Grand Reserve Grand Cru Blanc De Blancs Brut Champagne
1989 La Chapelle
1990 Rauzan Segla
1997 Lisini
NICE! 89 La Chapelle -yum!

2000 Charles Ellner Brut Champagne
1989 Pichon Lalande
1989 Cantemerle
1998 Berliquet
1999 Delas Hermitage de la Tourettes
1976 Gilette creme de Tetes
1975 Filhot
Couple of dinners and a lunch coming up.
Mangiare,
Let me know how the 1997 Lisini shows. It's been a few years since I've had one. It's delicious stuff.
Let me know how the 1997 Lisini shows. It's been a few years since I've had one. It's delicious stuff.
Fut - I think I already posted that the Lisini was outstanding.
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!
2 - 1987 Mondavi Reserve
2 - 1992 Dominus
2 - 1992 Spottswoode
2 - 1995 Montosoli BDM
2 - 1999 Saffredi
2 - 2001 Ceretto Bricco Rocche
and hopefully some cellar raiding.....
It only happens once in a hundred years you know.
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!

2 - 1987 Mondavi Reserve
2 - 1992 Dominus
2 - 1992 Spottswoode
2 - 1995 Montosoli BDM
2 - 1999 Saffredi
2 - 2001 Ceretto Bricco Rocche
and hopefully some cellar raiding.....
It only happens once in a hundred years you know.
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Fut - I think I already posted that the Lisini was outstanding.
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!![]()
2 - 1987 Mondavi Reserve
2 - 1992 Dominus
2 - 1992 Spottswoode
2 - 1995 Montosoli BDM
2 - 1999 Saffredi
2 - 2001 Ceretto Bricco Rocche
and hopefully some cellar raiding.....
It only happens once in a hundred years you know.
i think you need to scrub teh 01, 99 and the 87 and replace them with wines whose vintages begins with 1 and ends in 2
G-man good call.
I'm actually going to take you up on that.
Have a few 1982's i was saving for an occasion.
I'm actually going to take you up on that.
Have a few 1982's i was saving for an occasion.

1995 Profile
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
G-man good call.
I'm actually going to take you up on that.
Have a few 1982's i was saving for an occasion.![]()
1992- great affordable port year the Vesuvio is drinking well now to help round out the 1s and 2s
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Fut - I think I already posted that the Lisini was outstanding.
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!![]()
2 - 1987 Mondavi Reserve
2 - 1992 Dominus
2 - 1992 Spottswoode
2 - 1995 Montosoli BDM
2 - 1999 Saffredi
2 - 2001 Ceretto Bricco Rocche
and hopefully some cellar raiding.....
It only happens once in a hundred years you know.
i think you need to scrub teh 01, 99 and the 87 and replace them with wines whose vintages begins with 1 and ends in 2
Or even more appropriate, fill up on wines from this year: NZ sauvignon blanc and beaujolais nouveau!



Happy Birthday Mangiare!
Hope all your wines show well!
I'm also celebrating a 12/12/2012 birthday tomorrow! I will be enjoying some wine, just not comparable to yours!
Hope all your wines show well!
I'm also celebrating a 12/12/2012 birthday tomorrow! I will be enjoying some wine, just not comparable to yours!

Any chance you've had the 86 Clos du Marquis?quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
I think, unlike most 1986s I've had, it's within its drinking window. I wouldn't be in a hurry to drink it, but I don't think it will improve much.
quote:Originally posted by Longboarder:quote:Originally posted by KSC02:
1990 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque
Making sure this is your WOTY? Hope it shows as well as the bottle we had in Montreal.
It was clearly in the top 5 the both bottles showed VERY similarly, LB

quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!
Happy B'day, mangiare!

I share the same day as you. A grand day indeed.

2001 Pegau Reservee.
Happy Birthday to all of you celebrating on 12/12/12.
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:
Going to pull some wines for tomorrow - 12/12/12 birthday!![]()
and hopefully some cellar raiding.....
It only happens once in a hundred years you know.
Happy Birthday Mangiare!!!!!

Party like it's 12/12/12!
quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by Impulse:
1995 Hommage a Jacques Perrin
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La TurqueI'm going to take care of myself!
It's not my only one, impulse. I will share my other with you.![]()
Congrats on your b'day, and the Hommage. Very nice indeed!
speaking of, aint it yer bday too? What you stnading.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by Impulse:
1995 Hommage a Jacques Perrin
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La TurqueI'm going to take care of myself!
It's not my only one, impulse. I will share my other with you.![]()
Congrats on your b'day, and the Hommage. Very nice indeed!
speaking of, aint it yer bday too? What you stnading.
He ought to stand something good. He hasn't had much good wine these past few days....

PH
quote:Originally posted by PurpleHaze:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by Impulse:
1995 Hommage a Jacques Perrin
2004 Rayas
It's my b'day as well, and KSC02 won't share his La TurqueI'm going to take care of myself!
It's not my only one, impulse. I will share my other with you.![]()
Congrats on your b'day, and the Hommage. Very nice indeed!
speaking of, aint it yer bday too? What you stnading.
He ought to stand something good. He hasn't had much good wine these past few days....
PH
yea cuz i hear yer a lush who doesn't share!
quote:Originally posted by g-man:
yea cuz i hear yer a lush who doesn't share!


PH
quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:
Happy Birthday to all of you celebrating on 12/12/12.
big +1.
Mangiare - i'll be at the window tonight looking for the signal to 'take the dog for a walk' and head North...

Happy Birthday Guys!
I hope you are as blessed as I am today. I awoke to my 2 and 1/2 year old singing Happy Birthday at 5:00am.
Totally priceless.
All the best!
I hope you are as blessed as I am today. I awoke to my 2 and 1/2 year old singing Happy Birthday at 5:00am.
Totally priceless.
All the best!
2001 Heitz Trailside vineyard Cabernet.
What's up with all of these Canadian 12/12 birthday's? I didn't realize that April was such a swell month for parent's to get busy up in the great white north! 

quote:Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
What's up with all of these Canadian 12/12 birthday's? I didn't realize that April was such a swell month for parent's to get busy up in the great white north!![]()
By April so much snow has fallen in parts of Canada that it cannot be removed because there is nowhere to put it. So you can't get out of your driveway and are stuck at home. So, unless there is hockey or curling on TV, there is little else to do!
Have standing
1990 Cheval Blanc
1990 LLC
1999 Pingus
Wondering if one of these may go well with PH's braised ribs? Leaning towards the LLC....but may just open up a CdP.
1990 Cheval Blanc
1990 LLC
1999 Pingus
Wondering if one of these may go well with PH's braised ribs? Leaning towards the LLC....but may just open up a CdP.
quote:Originally posted by marcb7:
Have standing
1999 Pingus
Wondering if one of these may go well with PH's braised ribs?
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:quote:Originally posted by marcb7:
Have standing
1999 Pingus
Wondering if one of these may go well with PH's braised ribs?
Yeah? Decant?
1999 Delas Hermitage Marquis de la Tourettes
NV Gaudrelle Cremant de Loire
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:
NV Gaudrelle Cremant de Loire
Is this an undisgorged bottling?
PH
Cool thread.
Just about to go vertical on a 1995 Beaucastel CdP and a 1997 Dehlinger RRV cab.
Just about to go vertical on a 1995 Beaucastel CdP and a 1997 Dehlinger RRV cab.
quote:Originally posted by newsguy:
Cool thread.
Just about to go vertical on a 1995 Beaucastel CdP and a 1997 Dehlinger RRV cab.
Post notes on that 1995 Beaucastel please.
quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:quote:Originally posted by newsguy:
Cool thread.
Just about to go vertical on a 1995 Beaucastel CdP and a 1997 Dehlinger RRV cab.
Post notes on that 1995 Beaucastel please.
i will post notes on both bottles. will be popping them christmas eve.
Standing until Friday:
- 1989 Cos d'Estournel
- 1992 Dominus
- 1989 Cos d'Estournel
- 1992 Dominus
1985 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1991 Taylor Vargellas
1985 Warre
1991 Taylor Vargellas
quote:Originally posted by bman:
1985 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1991 Taylor Vargellas
All for one evening?
quote:Originally posted by Shane T.:
Standing until Friday:
- 1989 Cos d'Estournel
- 1992 Dominus
Very nice. Did you open both of them tonight?
All splits for over the holidays
1989 Beaucastel CdP
1994 Beaucastel CdP
1986 Mouton (I'm hoping might be approachable from 375)
1989 Beaucastel CdP
1994 Beaucastel CdP
1986 Mouton (I'm hoping might be approachable from 375)
quote:Originally posted by gigabit:quote:Originally posted by Shane T.:
Standing until Friday:
- 1989 Cos d'Estournel
- 1992 Dominus
Very nice. Did you open both of them tonight?
Unfortunately, they went back in the racks tonight. I caught a cold...
Both of them are on my short list though.
quote:All splits for over the holidays
1989 Beaucastel CdP
1994 Beaucastel CdP
1986 Mouton (I'm hoping might be approachable from 375)
Good to see you back in the saddle. All the best this holiday season to you and yours.
quote:Originally posted by theweb:
All splits for over the holidays
1989 Beaucastel CdP
1994 Beaucastel CdP
1986 Mouton (I'm hoping might be approachable from 375)
Good to see you back in action! Hope to see you at a dinner or offline soon!
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:quote:Originally posted by bman:
1985 Fonseca
1985 Warre
1991 Taylor Vargellas
All for one evening?
Sadly, no. If I knew even three people here who enjoyed port enough to even begin to appreciate them, maybe, but alas, no such luck. We'll open one tomorrow and maybe another before I return to Oakville in a week. Even mrs. bman is no longer the portlover she once was

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