What are you standing?

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Originally posted by VinT:
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Originally posted by bman:
Well FWIW, it was 7 degrees (celcius) and lovely when we were in Toronto at the end of last week. A little breezy especially on Yonge Street but still nice enough to walk around town.

Bman, was your dialing finger broken? Or was there another reason you did not let us know you were in town? bunny


I was there with my wife for work then a couple of days with wife, son and his fiancée so no time for offlines. This time. But I should be back every few weeks and will definitely give a heads-up next time. Meanwhile, remind me when you are coming to Ottawa again? catmouse
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
'01 Valdicava


K, please post a note on this wine....I'm still holding.

Will do. I opened one a year ago and it showed very well. I have a case plus add'l mags (+dbl mag) so just starting to open to follow it evalution.
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890

Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

I'll know in a few hours, w+a. I opened a bottle of this (purchased at the same time as this one) back in the fall of 2014 and I recall that it was excellent but still very young. It'll be interesting to see how it has developed in the intervening year and half.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890


Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

All I can say is "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890


Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

All I can say is "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."


Sounds like the poor fruit from the vintage faded long before the oak.
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890


Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

All I can say is "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."


Sounds like the fruit from this poor vintage faded well before the oak.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890


Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

All I can say is "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."


Sounds like the fruit from this poor vintage faded well before the oak.

The fruit hasn't faded at all, but neither has the oak. I thought the oak was distracting. Others didn't have quite the same reaction to it that I did.

I expect that the fruit will eventually fade while the coconut still hangs on.
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Originally posted by Mimik:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
'01 Valdicava
'95 Salon
'59 Moulin Touchais
'03 La Tour Blanche


I'm bringing a 2001 conti costanti bdm so it should be fun to compare.


Should I blow off the Toronto boys and invite myself up to Montreal to drink your wine instead?
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Originally posted by Redhawk:
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Originally posted by Mimik:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
'01 Valdicava
'95 Salon
'59 Moulin Touchais
'03 La Tour Blanche


I'm bringing a 2001 conti costanti bdm so it should be fun to compare.


Should I blow off the Toronto boys and invite myself up to Montreal to drink your wine instead?


You should drink with both groups. You can't go wrong with either Cru!
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
1998 La Rioja Alta Rioja Gran Reserva 890


Both '97 & '98 were brutal vintages overall in Rioja. That said, I bet this is a wonderful wine.

All I can say is "I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts."


Sounds like the poor fruit from the vintage faded long before the oak.



I have a bottle of this that i jmuped to buy since they are so hard to find but i must admit never checked the vintage. I thought that the 890 reserve Would only be produced in the very best vintages since it is such a special reserve! How come Rioja Alta produces it in such a bad one?
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
- 1984 Diamond Creek Cabernet Sauvignon Lake


Shane, please posts notes! I have one or two of these left and would love to hear how this wonderful wine is doing.


Notes are on the way for the '84 Lake; suffice it to say that it lives up to the hype!
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Originally posted by indybob:
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Originally posted by Shane T.:

- 1987 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve


One of my favorite all time wines. Wish I had some left. Hope it showed/shows well!


This was in our annual SD "Bucket List" offline last Saturday. It showed very well, but had some stiff competition!
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
- 1984 Diamond Creek Cabernet Sauvignon Lake


Shane, please posts notes! I have one or two of these left and would love to hear how this wonderful wine is doing.


Notes are on the way for the '84 Lake; suffice it to say that it lives up to the hype!


Great to hear!
In preparation for the Omakase dinner at Shoushin tomorrow evening:

Champagne:
1996 Boizel Joyau de France
1996 Duval-Leroy Champagne Blanc de Chardonnay Brut
NV Legras & Haas Chouilly Grand Cru Blanc de Blanc

White:
1999 ZH Clos Saint Urbain
2008 Bernard Magrez Chateau Pape Clement
2008 Hanzell Sonoma Chardonnay
1999 Jacques Prieur Meursault Les Perrieres
2002 Michel Colin-Deleger Puligny-Montrachet la Truffiere
2002 Christian Moreau Chablis les Clos
2011 Chateau Mercian Koshu Kiiroka
2012 Hirtzberger Smaragd Kirchweg Gruner Veltliner

Sake:
Tenzan Junmai Genshu Jizake

Red:
2007 Domaine Dujac Vosne Romanee Beaumonts

It should be interesting...
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
For a dinner with friends this Tuesday:

1997 Lisini
1997 Ciacci
1997 Poggio Antico Altero

PH

Cool Very nice, PH.
May your bottles show superbly.


I hope they do too. Also have a few other 1997 Brunelli being brought by other friends. It'll be the first larger sampling of 1997s by me in a while.

This tasting is also a celebration of sorts, as one of our group is going to get married next month. I won't give up any more details at this point, since it's not my story to tell. All I can say is that will probably be the most sane bachelor party I will ever attend. If I go to any others after this, I insist on strippers at the bare minimum... I'm not getting any younger...

PH
Not having a walk-in cellar or anything equivalent, I typically haven't been standing my reds.

But a bottle I opened tonight made me think I really should be standing reds that are more than a couple years past release - even if it means standing them at room temperature on the kitchen counter and then transfer to the fridge for a few minutes before opening.

It was a 2007 Chateau Paradis Terre des Anges (Coteaux d'Aix-en-Provence). It still showed a good bit of primary fruit. However, the tannins were well on their way toward precipitating out and were really gritty, to the extent that they were still suspended in the wine. It would have been a really lovely drink had the sediment not been so fine and well-dispersed throughout the bottle.

Does anyone else without a proper walk-in cellar stand their reds at room temperature?
Your wines will be fine if standing them for weeks, or even months, at room temperature (assuming you keep your home or basement at a reasonable temperature. If you're really worried you would probably be fine putting them right in your refrigerator!

The need for collaring at cooler temps is built around the strategy of medium to long term aging. My first "cellar" was the bottom rows from a few shelves from Ikea I left in my bedroom (grad school) and it was 3-4 years before i bought a wine fridge. Not a wine was tainted from being kept at 68-72+ degrees for that time period!
for tonight with some salmon and mushroom sauce

- 1996 Pol Roger Champagne Brut Rosé
- 2008 Dusky Goose Pinot Noir Rambouillet Vineyard
- 2012 Bouchard Pere & Fils Beaune 1er Clos de la Mousse (need to try this while there's still more available here; hoping for a good result)

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