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vinoevelovinoeveloMember

Neil Young - Comes a Time.  After spending the last few days in 80km/h winds at near freezing temperatures, eyes watering, teeth chattering, and singing 'four strong winds' under my breath as a distraction it seems like the right album now that i'm back home.  Already kind of sad I'm not back in that tree stand tomorrow before light.

W wine+artMember
robsutherland posted:
sunnylea57 posted:
robsutherland posted:
My new meze 99 classics headphones. Bloody brilliant. Looks amazing as well.

Damn you all to hell, Mr Sutherland. 

I'm now waiting for mine to arrive... along with the Classics Iridium.

https://www.mezeaudio.com/prod.../black-friday-bundle

It's a good deal! You'll love the headphones. I"ll bring mine to Sherry Christmas. 

Very nice. 

I have greatly enjoyed my Sennheiser headphones during a year of over 100k miles of travel.

bmanbmanMember
steve8 posted:
bman posted:
steve8 posted:

Alejandro Escoveda - Burn Something Beautiful

I'd like to, but I can't shake this cold.  His best album since A Man Under the Influence.

Chug a half bottle of Clio or Mollydooker and it should clear right up.....

 

I was thinking more about some Graham's LBV.

That could help "Faire sortir le mechant" as one of my in-laws might say.....

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
sunnylea57 posted:
vinoevelo posted:

The Beatles - Rubber Soul

A man must break his back to earn his day of leisure.

As much as I love Revolver, I think I have a softer spot for Rubber Soul. 

I prefer Revolver, but not necessarily for the songs it is most famous for. Eg. My favorite song on the album might be “For No One”.

 

Also, just listened to Rubber Soul. 

haggishaggisMember

The remastered reissue of George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass."  I don't listen to this enough.  It is one amazing album.  He must have been so constrained by The Beatles that when they broke up all this pent up creativity spewed out all at once.  Amazing.

Name-dropping alert:  And he was a great guy.  When I was in Hawaii, he and Olivia would come over from Maui after hours to our botanic garden and just wander around.  Very engaging, lovely, people.  Miss him.  [BTW:  Michael Crichton lived on Kauai and would stop by, too.  Also a great guy]. 

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
haggis posted:

The remastered reissue of George Harrison's "All Things Must Pass."  I don't listen to this enough.  It is one amazing album.  He must have been so constrained by The Beatles that when they broke up all this pent up creativity spewed out all at once.  Amazing.

Name-dropping alert:  And he was a great guy.  When I was in Hawaii, he and Olivia would come over from Maui after hours to our botanic garden and just wander around.  Very engaging, lovely, people.  Miss him.  [BTW:  Michael Crichton lived on Kauai and would stop by, too.  Also a great guy]. 

Great album. But, imo, his masterpiece is a song on The White Album. 

haggishaggisMember
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

W wine+artMember
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

haggishaggisMember
wineart 2 posted:
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

And the feeling is mutual.  Thank you for that thoughtful sentiment! 

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

Eric Clapton was once asked what it felt like to be the world’s greatest guitarist. He said, “I don’t know. Ask Prince.”  I think he may have been referring to that exact performance. 

 

And, of course, you are welcome!

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
haggis posted:
wineart 2 posted:
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

And the feeling is mutual.  Thank you for that thoughtful sentiment! 

One thousand percent. Both of you. 

bmanbmanMember
winetarelli posted:
haggis posted:
wineart 2 posted:
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

And the feeling is mutual.  Thank you for that thoughtful sentiment! 

One thousand percent. Both of you. 

Get a room, already, you three!

haggishaggisMember
bman posted:
winetarelli posted:
haggis posted:
wineart 2 posted:
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

And the feeling is mutual.  Thank you for that thoughtful sentiment! 

One thousand percent. Both of you. 

Get a room, already, you three!

There's room for you! 

bmanbmanMember
haggis posted:
bman posted:
winetarelli posted:
haggis posted:
wineart 2 posted:
haggis posted:
winetarelli posted:

Also, haggis, if you haven’t seen it, I think you’d enjoy the trailer for Yesterday. The UK trailer might be even better than the U.S. one. 

Thank you for this, and the other, response.  Wonderful!  Thank you.  BTW: I think the live version of that song to which you refer (I presume, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"), with Dhani Harrison, is incredible.

There are few on this forum I would enjoy meeting I haven’t met to date. You two are the exception!

And the feeling is mutual.  Thank you for that thoughtful sentiment! 

One thousand percent. Both of you. 

Get a room, already, you three!

There's room for you! 

Awww shucks......

jabe11jabe11Member
winetarelli posted:

MJ. Not usually my exact genre, but damn, good is good, and he was really good. 

I have something that say about this.  This isn’t meant as a critique of your musical tastes, ‘cause I think we have an enormous overlap.

 I will overlook many musicians, my musical heros’, faults...Jimi was a drugged our air head, Chuck Berry’s a womanizer, after reading Miles autobiography, I though that he was a bit of an a-hole, Garcia a junkie.  But man, I draw the line at paedofiles.   Eff that sorry ass, his music and every high powered lawyer he paid off to pay people off.  It may sound harsh, and certainly isn’t directed at you, Winetarelli, but I hope he is burning in hell, and I will never willingly listen to his music again.   Apologies for the PWI.

winetarelliwinetarelliMember

Jabe11,

I’ve always been able to separate art from artist*.  But MJ certainly hurt some young people. I don’t know the extent or level of consciousness about it, however. I was too young to have followed it closely (I’m Macauly Culkin’s age).  And even at that age I was clear in my own belief structure against trial-by-media and mob-mentality.  Once a more complete picture emerged in my mind many years ago, it was of a shattered man-boy who grossly mistreated some young people but possibly without realizing it; It was not clear to me that it was explicitly sexual — at least not in his mind — even though damaging for others, I am willing to assume. (I also thought he may have molested people, but it was unclear to me.)  I have not revisited the issue as an adult to re-gather unbiased evidence and re-try him in my own mind. Ironically, though, today Maureen Dowd wrote a piece on a new MJ documentary she says is fully damning. I’m not certain I want to see it — I like his music a lot and he’s dead, anyway.

*Wagner is the sole exception and I listen to him and love his music. But I wouldn’t play it at my wedding; not thrilled the Jerusalem Symphony now plays him — only because I wish people asked the question “why don’t they play Wagner?” so that a discussion could be had.  And some of his music is evocative of things it might not otherwise be to me. But I still listen. 

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jabe11jabe11Member

Don’t have time to give as thoughtful a response, as I’m holiday.   Nonetheless, yes, there is an existential boundary between the artist and his/her creation.  Don’t think MJ has been judged in the court of public opinion, as I feel I am in the strong minority....look at how popular he still is.  To me he is damned and always will be.

sd-wineauxsd-wineauxMember
jabe11 posted:

Nonetheless, yes, there is an existential boundary between the artist and his/her creation.

Jabe11 / Winetarelli, I'm curious whether this boundary exists for you only for dead (and thus, no impact to their personal wealth) or for living artists as well.  As you might guess, I'm thinking about R Kelly here and the move to restrict his music (and earning thereof) as punishment for his (alleged) behavior.

robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
sd-wineaux posted:
jabe11 posted:

Nonetheless, yes, there is an existential boundary between the artist and his/her creation.

Jabe11 / Winetarelli, I'm curious whether this boundary exists for you only for dead (and thus, no impact to their personal wealth) or for living artists as well.  As you might guess, I'm thinking about R Kelly here and the move to restrict his music (and earning thereof) as punishment for his (alleged) behavior.

The alleged behavior he just got a no-bail arrest warrant issued for...

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
sd-wineaux posted:
jabe11 posted:

Nonetheless, yes, there is an existential boundary between the artist and his/her creation.

Jabe11 / Winetarelli, I'm curious whether this boundary exists for you only for dead (and thus, no impact to their personal wealth) or for living artists as well.  As you might guess, I'm thinking about R Kelly here and the move to restrict his music (and earning thereof) as punishment for his (alleged) behavior.

It depends. And there can be a difference between “in theory” and “in practice”. Maybe I’ll write more on this later, but I don’t find Bill Cosby funny anymore. That isn’t a principled choice or stance. It isn’t a choice at all. I just don’t find him funny anymore. Also, I adore Polanski films. Now there are a lot of moral distinctions I would intellectually make between the two cases and I don’t them as directly analogous cases, but maybe others don’t see it the same way I do. But the reason I cannot watch Cosby and can watch... even an interview with Polanski, that isn’t based upon any conscious choice I’ve made. 

Although, maybe the totality of the circumstances surrounding Polanski allows me to separate the act from the man in a way the totality of circumstances surrounding Cosby could never let me do. 

steve8steve8Member

I'm with Winetarelli on this. Have to separate the art from the artist, otherwise we'd be listening to Air Supply, watching films like You've Got Mail and looking at paintings of trees. People are flawed and it seems the cultural arts community has more than its share of them.

The latest musician to be publicly flogged is Ryan Adams whose music I like a lot. Anyone who has followed his career and read stuff about him realized he was a bit of an egotistical asshole long ago.

jabe11jabe11Member
vinoevelo posted:

Europe '72 - Grateful Dead.  

This warms my heart.  I'll try to be brief, here, but, well let me have my fun. 

The discs them selves are enjoyable...particularly for me the Pigpen numbers...he was in poor health upon departure and many believe this tour, along with the poor weather and rigorous travel, hasten his demise.  Blues standards excel, but Mr. Charlie is is just flat out as bad ass as Good Ol' Grateful Dead gets.  Standouts such as Ramble on Rose, Brown Eyed Women (perhaps one of my all time favorite songs to play and sing) and when Cumberland finally came into its own.    '72 is considered a high water mark for live Dead and for good reason.  Better yet, all the shows from this spring tour have been released and the quality is excellent across the board.  I recommend the Lyceum theatre shows as well as the Olympia in Paris.  The dusseldorf show has been getting some air on Siruis lately, and is also worth a listen. 

I particularly enjoy the England shows as I can just imagine one or two of the crew handing out sugar cubes after the ticker taker and having Limeys have their world's shattered into a million pieces and having it coming back together again with a standard era Lovelight or Morning Dew. 

If this music interests you,  may I suggest exploring further with the Dicks picks series and subsequent Dave's picks.  Both were (Dick) and are (Dave) archivists of the dead's vault tapes.  I would look for discs containing St. Stephen>The Eleven from late '68 to mid '69...the golden age of St Stephan that is perhaps the most powerful and electric song of their entire repertoire,  or virtually any show from the May tour of '77, Dicks picks #3 (Pembroke p[ines, for instance,  or Rochester (5-9 i wanna say) shows being particular favorites), although many claim the Cornell show from 5/8 to be teh best dead show of all time.  I don't necessarily agree with this, but arguable the May '77 tour is  the best music they ever produced, period.  Lazy Lighting/Supplication, the recently released Terrapin pared down for concert length, Samson and Delilah, along with the best Half steps and Sugarees they ever played are songs to look out for, IMO.  The extended jams of Playin' are the stuff of idolization for bands on the jam band circuit, and some of the best improv in roll and roll history.  Thanks to whomever read this far.

vinoevelovinoeveloMember

Thanks Jabe!  I've never been much of a dead fan but have been watching the long strange trip doc on Prime and have been getting into them more lately.  There was an entire episode on the '72 europe album with tour footage that ends with morning dew (like the album) and the audio tech telling us that during the solo Jerry turns his back to the audience for most of it as he has tears pouring down his face.  Listening to it, I think you can feel it. 

Watching it has me drinking a lot more reisling than normal - its the only real strong acid i can get my hands on these days.

Bytown RickBytown RickMember
brucehayes posted:

Selling England By the Pound by Genesis.  Back in the "old days" when Montreal station CHOM FM was still good (rather than what it has been turned into today) they used to play this a great deal, sometimes spinning entire sides.  Those were the days.

++1 both on Genesis and CHOM.  Part of my growing up in the day.  Listening to 97.7 right now .

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
winetarelli posted:
it was of a shattered man-boy who grossly mistreated some young people but possibly without realizing it; It was not clear to me that it was explicitly sexual — at least not in his mind — even though damaging for others, I am willing to assume. (I also thought he may have molested people, but it was unclear to me.)  
 

"Grossly mistreated..." This is horrible. There is no doubt that Jackson molested children. This includes oral and anal sex. (Molesting is a "nice" word for "rape.") Yes, he raped children. When asked if he molested children his prevaricating answer was, "Why would I harm children? I love children."

Well, because you're a sick fuck, that's why. Did he ever appear as a stable individual? Ever? From dangling an infant out a window (most people realize that none of "his" kids resemble him in the least) to his rampant drug addictions and abuse. Don't watch the documentary, it may be more truth than you can handle.

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steve8steve8Member
brucehayes posted:

Just like Heaven by Dinosaur Jr.  Where the hell has this band been all my life??!!

As in you just discovered them Bruce? Or you forgot about them for the 30 years since they covered that song? If the former, check out their cover of Neil Young's Lotta Love. Or their song Freak Scene.

J. Mascis is a great guitar player although I'm more a Lou Barlow fan.

B brucehayesMember
steve8 posted:
brucehayes posted:

Just like Heaven by Dinosaur Jr.  Where the hell has this band been all my life??!!

As in you just discovered them Bruce? Or you forgot about them for the 30 years since they covered that song? If the former, check out their cover of Neil Young's Lotta Love. Or their song Freak Scene.

J. Mascis is a great guitar player although I'm more a Lou Barlow fan.

Just discovered.  Will take a listen to Lotta Love. Thanks.

sunnylea57sunnylea57Member

Black Keys - Let's Rock!

First listen I thought, "OK this is pretty good. Slicker and poppier than I expected, though." Now I have it pretty much on a constant loop and at least 5 of the songs are stuck permanently in my head. Super hooky. Great production. So many influences: Fleetwood Mac, ZZ Top, T Rex, Stealer's Wheel, CCR...

I expect I'll be totally sick of it by September, but right now it's my top choice for summer soundtrack. (And it's great running music.)

sunnylea57sunnylea57Member

Blood, Sweat & Tears - Live at Woodstock

Holy crap, this is amazing. The whole set is great, but if you only listen to one track, check out "I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know".

https://youtu.be/yq14MfyU2vQ

The back story: BS&T was the brainchild of Al Kooper who formed the band not long after The Blues Project disbanded. (Paging vinoevelo.)  This song is from the first BS&T album and Al Kooper sang lead on the original. But Kooper left the band after that first album and they hired David Clayton-Thomas as the new lead singer in mid-1968. So this performance at Woodstock is about a year after he joined the band. And he makes it his own. A powerhouse performance.

BS&T isn't in the Woodstock film because their manager told the festival organizers to turn off the cameras because they hadn't agreed (or been paid) to be filmed. 

But the audio of pretty much every song by every artist at Woodstock was recorded. There's an ongoing bootleg project to compile the best available versions of every Woodstock performance -- http://woodstockproject.proboards.com -- but many of the tracks were barely listenable. Also, a number of full sets have been released on CD in recent years (Hendrix, Joplin, Santana, etc.).

But last week Rhino released a limited-edition (1969 copies) 35-CD box set of the entire concert. They had access to the original master recordings. The set included every song, every artist, all with fully restored audio. It also included the Blu-Ray of the film, books, and a bunch of other swag. Retail cost was $800 and it sold out immediately.

The good news is that a few more full sets were also released last week including BS&T, Creedence, Joan Baez and Mountain. These are all on Apple Music.