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Originally posted by mangiare:
unfortunately no. you?
Working on a large RFP for the past 2 days and have needed inspiration in the background. Man those 2 albums have a lot of good songs.


Very Interesting. Kath and I enjoyed it but it was much more multi-dimensional than I expected (the ear phones were mandatory as they turned on as you entered some rooms/went near some exhibits). It could have been better but it was very much worth it.
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
Jackson Browne - Running on Empty came on in the car on the way to the office this AM. That is a great song and he wrote some amazing songs in the 70s

I over listened to that summer/fall '02 (long story). But really good stuff when you are already in a good mood to keep it going. For sure.


Early Dylan in honor of Inside Llewyn Davis.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Shane T.:


I'd put her in Top-5 female vocalists in the world...easily.


Your top 5 is?


Haven't thought much about it, but Sade would be one, Edith Piaf another. Maybe Ella Fitzgerald, Adele, Diana Krall. I love Shirley Alston Reeves!


I guess I would have to split this up between "best currently & best of all time." Also, I'd throw the disclaimer in there that I'm not a fan of all of their music; my list is based off of raw talent (Sorry Miley...).

Currently:

- Celine Dion
- Martina McBride
- Sarah Brightman
- Mariah Carey
- Alison Krauss

All-Time Top-10

- Whitney Houston
- Maria Callas
- Ella Fitzgerald
- Karen Carpenter
- Etta James
- Aretha Franklin
- Celine Dion
- Eva Cassidy (a tragedy that she was "discovered" posthumously.)
- Reba McEntire
- Bonnie Raitt
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Originally posted by Shane T.:All-Time Top-10

- Whitney Houston
- Maria Callas
- Ella Fitzgerald
- Karen Carpenter
- Etta James
- Aretha Franklin
- Celine Dion
- Eva Cassidy (a tragedy that she was "discovered" posthumously.)
- Reba McEntire
- Bonnie Raitt

I hope this isn't in order. Ella could mop the floor vocally with Houston. In addition she was the great interpreter of the Great American Songbook instead of pop crap of the 70s & 80s.
lol!

Yep, this is my order. Whitney in her prime was the best vocalist of all-time: game over. Note for note, her range simply can't be matched (Mariah Carey comes close though).

"Pop crap" from the 70's & 80's?! Maybe...but remember the style of the period. Ella sang in the style of her time too.

* On a brighter note, Whitney is almost (2) years sober. Wink
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
lol!

Yep, this is my order. Whitney in her prime was the best vocalist of all-time: game over. Note for note, her range simply can't be matched (Mariah Carey comes close though).

"Pop crap" from the 70's & 80's?! Maybe...but remember the style of the period. Ella sang in the style of her time too.

Ah, the folly of youth.
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John
Richie Havens
Solomon Burke

edited because I thought I'd included Havens and Burke, but hadn't.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John

Frank Sinatra.

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Originally posted by The Old Man:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John

Frank Sinatra.

[end]

I was going of the rock era. Otherwise: Louis Armstrong would be my number 1. FWIW, I love Sinatra, but I don't think he is as good as Ray Charles.
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Originally posted by steve8:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

<edited out> list of dinosaurs



What was that list Winetarelli? Best male vocalists? Assuming yes, are you using the same criteria used for the females above?

Yes, I was going 'of the rock era and beyond'. And the criteria was simply who sang the songs that he sang the best. eg: people like Lennon and Dylan might not have had traditionally great voices, but for what they were doing they were absolutely awe-inspiring.
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Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.
"Technical ability" is far too ironic and vague a true standard. A drum machine will strike its note more precisely than Charlie Watts, yet great drummers are far superior to machines.

The analogous is true of singing. If "technical ability" includes ability to transmit emotion, story, nuance, connection, love, in song, that is one thing -- and that is what my list was about. But if you are just talking about 'who can hit what note dead on and hold it?' you've already lost the joy of music, imo.
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
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Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.

Krueger?
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
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Originally posted by Shane T.:
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Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.

Krueger?


Of course. Who did you think I was talking about?!
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
"Technical ability" is far too ironic and vague a true standard. A drum machine will strike its note more precisely than Charlie Watts, yet great drummers are far superior to machines.

The analogous is true of singing. If "technical ability" includes ability to transmit emotion, story, nuance, connection, love, in song, that is one thing -- and that is what my list was about. But if you are just talking about 'who can hit what note dead on and hold it?' you've already lost the joy of music, imo.


Sometimes hitting that note dead on and holding it, transmits emotion and appeal as well though. All subjective. When I hear technical though, same with sport or anything, it means zero argument. Just fact. Like technically, I'm the coolest **** at Christmas. Cool
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Originally posted by billhike:
While I always respected Clapton I was never a huge fan, and I love guitar blues. Then I went to the 2007 Crossroads guitar festival and saw him tear it up in person. Wow.


Have you listened to his CD of Robert Johnson tunes, Me and Mr Johnson, that came out a few years ago? I really like his playing, but his voice is not edgy and weary enough for my tastes; nonetheless, I play it quite often.
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Originally posted by haggis:
Have you listened to his CD of Robert Johnson tunes, Me and Mr Johnson, that came out a few years ago? I really like his playing, but his voice is not edgy and weary enough for my tastes; nonetheless, I play it quite often.

I have not, but am interested. Totally agree on the voice. There are the smooth guys like Robert Cray, then there are screechers like Buddy Guy. Smile
Thanks for posting this. Listened to last night...enjoyed a lot.

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Eric Clapton & Duane Allman - Studio Jams 1970


vev - This sounds epic...what is the gist of the recording(s)? Jam sessions...outtakes...et al...?


http://youtu.be/3bOAsPIKeJY

my friend has it in .flac and burned me the dvd. brilliant work.
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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:
Testament 'The Formation of Damnation'


What do you think of this? I have been giving it a try but not really won over.

'The Ritual' is the one album from Testament I enjoy.


I like Skolnick's guitar work a great deal. I thought this was the best thing from Testament since the 80's.
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:
Testament 'The Formation of Damnation'


What do you think of this? I have been giving it a try but not really won over.

'The Ritual' is the one album from Testament I enjoy.


I like Skolnick's guitar work a great deal. I thought this was the best thing from Testament since the 80's.


Loved them through their first 4 albums. I enjoy the new music but not a fan of Chuck Billy's newer "vocal" style.
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Listen to the great, GREAT Martina Arroyo driving home today.

She just received the Kennedy Center Honors. Well deserved.


Really? Winner

It was a great year with her receiving the honor along with Billy Joel, Carlos Santana, Herbie Hancock and Shirley Maclaine. The show was amazing, as usual, but she stole it not only with her work but her personality - she was smiling and enjoying every moment each time the camera turned her way.