I started listening to classical music when I was around 18. It now comprises about 1/3 of my music library which is about 2K + CD's. I tend towards chamber music and more obscure composers, but still focus on music composed from 1600 to 1830. If I had to choose what to listen to for the rest of my life, I would choose classical without hesitation. It's more complex than Rock & Roll, Blues etc...(some jazz has it's moments) but you can listen to classical in the forefront or background and hear different structural elements. It's not boring, once you listen to it. How many times can you listen to some iconic Rock music? It runs its course pretty quickly and you grow audibly tired of it. I don't experience that with classical.
I am not saying that I don't listen to classical music on principal and that is that. I was just stating that I have listened to a lot, and actually took a musical comp/theory class in college that focused on classical and jazz, and it just doesn't get me excited as it seems to others. I have no problem with it being background music or soothing music if that is the right time/place for it, but as something that will be the focal point of a specific period of time for me (ie, I choose to sit down for this period of time and listen to X), classical just isn't that choice, for me.

Again, my original question is not to bash or question the validity of classical music to others. It was, if you look back at the question, more of when you started to like it as I was wondering if that 'development' would come with age, similarly to my transition from Aussie fruit bombs through the gamut to my current tastes for mostly burgundy.

Again, not trying to label anyone or denigrate anyone's choice for styles of music, just trying to understand what gets people excited about classical music and when you started down that road.

thanks, Dale
The Who - Who's Better, Who's Best....

Has this ever taken a real interesting turn! I would say that I am in the Dale and Glenn camp - with very eclectic tastes as well. On rare occasions I can listen to classical, but I certainly don't make it a point. My tastes run to classic rock and metal, but I also have a vast collection of country CD's (the old Datsun 510 station wagon that I got to drive in high school only had an AM radio, and I just couldn't listen to KFRC any more, so my country phase started), and I can certainly do the alternative stuff that I listened to in college. Really, the only stuff I cannot stand is the hardcore rap - the stuff that a good majority of my students listen to.... Roll Eyes
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Again, my original question is not to bash or question the validity of classical music to others. It was, if you look back at the question, more of when you started to like it as I was wondering if that 'development' would come with age, similarly to my transition from Aussie fruit bombs through the gamut to my current tastes for mostly burgundy.


I don't think age has anything to do with it. As stated above, I started listening to it when I was 18. I also took a music appreciation class in college. And I currently (sometimes) read biographies of composers to understand the music in context to it's time. The only thing that has changed with me is the breadth and depth of my appreciation.

I take no offense in that people may not want to listen to 200+ year old music Smile
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w+a - that is great. I have seen them three times, all in small venues and really enjoy their music and the energy at shows. They put on a great live performance.

The issue, to me, is what to drink when listening to Enigma (monks/trance music). I was leaning towards Chartreuse or Champagne, but am thinking that I may have to break down and buy a newly legal bottle of Absinthe and see how that works.

Dale


Dale, the answer to any and all questions is... CHAMPAGNE. Cool
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W+a - quick question for you and others. when did you start actually enjoying classical music? I listened to some in college because it was the thing to do, and can enjoy some pieces and performances, but would never, at least now, in my mid-30s, buy or listen to just classical music. I dont' mean this as anything other than curiousity and wondering if it is personal style thing or if you just grew into it as you get older.

thanks


Dale,

I started listening at around 16, and really got into "classical" (mostly not Classical, but Romantic) music at around 18. I'm now in my late twenties and I would say it makes up about 1/4 of the music I listen to.
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w+a - I went to Yale University...


You may be the very first Yalie ever to respond to the question, "where did you go to school" with an answer that does not resemble: "Connecticut" -- Congratulations on your lack of affectedness! Big Grin
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...My tastes in art run the gamut as well, but I am much more a "feel" kind of guy if we are talking about paintings. I really enjoy Paul Klee, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Gaugin and Cezanne, Marc Chagall, Wassily Kandinsky and Ludwig Kirchner.


Man... I'm with you on the Chagall and Kandinsky. One of my later-in-life goals is to be able to afford a nice Chagall lithograph. I've had Kandinsky posters on my walls on and off since I was 17.

Out of curiosity, did you answer that question based upon ambience or overall appreciation? The reason I ask is that Chagall, Miro, and Kandinsky are probably my three favorites for ambience. HOWEVER, in terms of enjoyment in certain settings, El Greco, Goya, Rembrandt, to me, are tough to beat. (As are many many others... Bosch, Picasso, Monet...)
Winetarelli- when I first graduated, I used to do the "oh I went back East", which was then " a little school in New Haven", to "oh, yes, in Connecticut", which then ended up with "Yale".

Now, at this point, we are all who we are and do what we do and so I have cut through this and just answer.

And, as to the art, yes, that answer is for ambience, and yes, yes, I too would love a Chagall lithograph. And if you ever decide to be generous, my favorite Chagall is 'Circus'.

And just for fun, we have several Charles Bragg pictures up in my office at home and our bedroom. I am curious what people think of him as a serious/satiric artist.

Dale
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W+A - My tastes in art run the gamut as well, but I am much more a "feel" kind of guy if we are talking about paintings. I really enjoy Paul Klee, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Gaugin and Cezanne, Marc Chagall, Wassily Kandinsky and Ludwig Kirchner.

Cool I know them all, and very well.



And yourself, where does your art interest lie?


Dale, sorry, I just saw this post. Red Face

I will post soon, it will take a while for my list. Wink ( one hint, I like irwin own a Chagall litho.)
Ahh, Steve and Mpls Wine Guy - now that is good reminiscing!! I saw the femmes religiously in concert back in college at a little bar called Toads that is kind of a legend on the East coast for touring bands. Great times, great times. I am going to have to listen to a little American Music tonight, I think.

Dale
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w+a - really?!?! you have a Chagall. very cool. between this and the wonderful wine that you drink, I am close to asking you to adopt me. I am in my 30's, that wouldn't be too weird, right!??!?! Smile



Hey, Irwin has a Chagall as well.

Perhaps joint custody is in order here. Wink
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w+a - really?!?! you have a Chagall. very cool. between this and the wonderful wine that you drink, I am close to asking you to adopt me. I am in my 30's, that wouldn't be too weird, right!??!?! Smile



Hey, Irwin has a Chagall as well.

Perhaps joint custody is in order here. Wink


okay, now I know 2 more places to visit for offlines. Big Grin
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W+A - My tastes in art run the gamut as well, but I am much more a "feel" kind of guy if we are talking about paintings. I really enjoy Paul Klee, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Gaugin and Cezanne, Marc Chagall, Wassily Kandinsky and Ludwig Kirchner.



And yourself, where does your art interest lie?



Oh my, where to start? Smile

My favorite genre is Modern (1906 - 1956) and work inspired from the Movement. I'm also smitten with the SoHo Abstract Expressionism.

A few of my favorites.

Picasso (only true genius since the High Renaissance.)
Modigliani
Bacon
Dali
Delvaux
Rothko
Chagall
Braque
Weight
Rego
Motherwell
Miro
Kandinsky
Matisse
De Chirico
Cezanne
Hodgkin
Giacometti
Magritte
Lawrence
Dix
Kline
Miro
Kirchner
Manet
Pollock
Kiefer
Freud
Close

I shudder to think of all the ones I left off my quick list. Wink

Now please understand, this does not include my love of sculpture, photography and the Renaissance Movement. Red Face
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W+A - My tastes in art run the gamut as well, but I am much more a "feel" kind of guy if we are talking about paintings. I really enjoy Paul Klee, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Gaugin and Cezanne, Marc Chagall, Wassily Kandinsky and Ludwig Kirchner.



Dale, speaking of the great Kirchner... do you have the book, Kirchner and the Berlin Street?
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Originally posted by Dale451:
W+A - My tastes in art run the gamut as well, but I am much more a "feel" kind of guy if we are talking about paintings. I really enjoy Paul Klee, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Gaugin and Cezanne, Marc Chagall, Wassily Kandinsky and Ludwig Kirchner.



Dale, speaking of the great Kirchner... do you have the book, Kirchner and the Berlin Street?


I do, actually, and Two Women on the Street is one of my favorites.

Dale
The Ubiquitous Mr. Love Grove by Dead Can Dance

W+A - if you have itunes or youtube or something like this, check this one out. and listen to the whole thing, it is slow in the start, but will be an either love it or hate it kind of song.

let me know what you think.

Dale

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