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From the LA Times:

"Led Zeppelin did not steal ‘Stairway to Heaven’ riff, court rules

SAN FRANCISCO — A federal appeals court decided Monday that the British rock band Led Zeppelin did not steal of portions of “Stairway to Heaven” from another band.
The ruling, by an 11-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, stemmed from a lawsuit that accused Led Zeppelin of stealing portions of “Stairway to Heaven” from a song called “Taurus,” which was written by Randy Wolfe of the Los Angeles-based band Spirit.

A jury ruled for Zeppelin, deciding the two songs were not substantially similar. A three-judge 9th Circuit panel later threw out the verdict on the grounds the trial judge gave faulty jury instructions.
Led Zeppelin asked a larger panel to reconsider, and Monday’s decision reinstated the verdict."

That said, Led Zeppelin sucked then and they suck now.

The Old Man posted:
billhike posted:

Nice try, troll. 

That really hurts.

I was never able to listen all the way through one of their albums.

You wouldn't get the eye rolls you get if you just stopped proclaiming your opinions as fact.

Try "That said, I've always thought that Led Zeppelin sucked." or "IMHO, Led Zeppelin sucked then and suck now. I've never been able to listen to one of their albums all the way through."

sunnylea57 posted:
The Old Man posted:
billhike posted:

Nice try, troll. 

That really hurts.

I was never able to listen all the way through one of their albums.

You wouldn't get the eye rolls you get if you just stopped proclaiming your opinions as fact.

Try "That said, I've always thought that Led Zeppelin sucked." or "IMHO, Led Zeppelin sucked then and suck now. I've never been able to listen to one of their albums all the way through."

+1

sunnylea57 posted:
The Old Man posted:
billhike posted:

Nice try, troll. 

That really hurts.

I was never able to listen all the way through one of their albums.

You wouldn't get the eye rolls you get if you just stopped proclaiming your opinions as fact.

Try "That said, I've always thought that Led Zeppelin sucked." or "IMHO, Led Zeppelin sucked then and suck now. I've never been able to listen to one of their albums all the way through."

That's what I rried to point out by re-editing my previous message, and as I've mentioned in another post, who cares what my opinion is? You can attack my favorite movies, artist, TV shows, Etc. It really doesn't bother me in any way because I beleve in my opinions. I assume everyone else does too.

I knew this started as a mild rebuke of me, but it would be an interesting point of discussion as I've mentioned before.

Who gives a shit about other people's opinions? Especially ones they don't even know on the internet? If they align with ours we think they're brilliant. And if they don't, they must be idiots.

billhike posted:

A lot of people who are regulars here have actually met in person and correspond outside of this forum. Not everyone are “internet strangers”. 

I was kind of talking specifically about you. You don't know me, you don't like me, so why do you care that I don't like Led Zeppelin? Even if I say it in such a mean way. Again, if you were to say, "The movie Citizen Kane sucks", I would not be calling you a troll or any other names. I might try to refute it. But it would not bend me out of shape.

Note, I have added a new disclaimer.

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I’ve actually tried to be more civil and conversational with you recently. I’m certainly not bent out of shape - more confused as to why anyone would spend their time being constantly negative. Especially on a forum with a purpose of existence you seem barely interested in. At least the words “sucked then, sucks now” may save someone a little effort in trying to come up with a fitting epitaph for you one day.

billhike posted:

I’ve actually tried to be more civil and conversational with you recently. I’m certainly not bent out of shape - more confused as to why anyone would spend their time being constantly negative. Especially on a forum with a purpose of existence you seem barely interested in. At least the words “sucked then, sucks now” may save someone a little effort in trying to come up with a fitting epitaph for you one day.

I actually first used that phrase a number of years ago. Since then it has been used a few times by other posters--in a mocking way. I saw this article of interest in the LA Times and posted it with what I thought was a playful use of the infamous phrase.

"...why anyone would spend their time being constantly negative."

Actually a great majority of my comments about movies, television and art are positive. I believe the average is greater than 80%.

As for how I'm remembered when I'm dead, I don't think anyone can be harder on myself than me. (Or is it, "on me than myself?)

As for my epitaph, I already have it written out, I thought it was a dress rehearsal

However it's hard to beat Rodney, who, like Peter Falk is also at Pearce Brothers in Westwood.

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billhike posted:

The most rambling, disjointed and time-wasting piece of shit of a press conference ever. Holy fuck.

Just saw an opinion piece in the Washington Post that there's no point "torturing" yourself listening to his lies and ignorance. Add to that Pence, and a few others, nauseating attempts to see who can get the highest up into the president's ass. I'd say skip it and wait for the summary which will include how many lies he told during the conference.

Breathtaking; Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March

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I'm thinking of the imbeciles in Washington as I listen to:

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Ev'ryone come on
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Ev'ryone you meet
Why in the world are we here
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you there
When you're ev'rywhere
Come and get your share
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Come on and on and on on on
Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun

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