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S shanetMember
lol!

Yep, this is my order. Whitney in her prime was the best vocalist of all-time: game over. Note for note, her range simply can't be matched (Mariah Carey comes close though).

"Pop crap" from the 70's & 80's?! Maybe...but remember the style of the period. Ella sang in the style of her time too.

* On a brighter note, Whitney is almost (2) years sober. Wink
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
quote:
Originally posted by Shane T.:
lol!

Yep, this is my order. Whitney in her prime was the best vocalist of all-time: game over. Note for note, her range simply can't be matched (Mariah Carey comes close though).

"Pop crap" from the 70's & 80's?! Maybe...but remember the style of the period. Ella sang in the style of her time too.

Ah, the folly of youth.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John
Richie Havens
Solomon Burke

edited because I thought I'd included Havens and Burke, but hadn't.
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The Old ManThe Old ManMember
quote:
Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John

Frank Sinatra.

[end]
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
quote:
Originally posted by The Old Man:
quote:
Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

1) Ray Charles

(there is no number 2)

3) Otis Redding

Also worthy of extraordinary praise:
John Lennon
Van Morrison
Joe Cocker
Bob Dylan (yes, Bob Dylan)
Jackie Wilson
Roy Orbison

Also worthy of mention:
Mick Jagger
Roger Daltry
Robert Plant
Little Richard
James Brown
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Jack Bruce
Bono
Rod Stewart (pre '74)
Dr. John

Frank Sinatra.

[end]

I was going of the rock era. Otherwise: Louis Armstrong would be my number 1. FWIW, I love Sinatra, but I don't think he is as good as Ray Charles.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
quote:
Originally posted by steve8:
quote:
Originally posted by winetarelli:
By the way...

<edited out> list of dinosaurs



What was that list Winetarelli? Best male vocalists? Assuming yes, are you using the same criteria used for the females above?

Yes, I was going 'of the rock era and beyond'. And the criteria was simply who sang the songs that he sang the best. eg: people like Lennon and Dylan might not have had traditionally great voices, but for what they were doing they were absolutely awe-inspiring.
S shanetMember
quote:
Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
"Technical ability" is far too ironic and vague a true standard. A drum machine will strike its note more precisely than Charlie Watts, yet great drummers are far superior to machines.

The analogous is true of singing. If "technical ability" includes ability to transmit emotion, story, nuance, connection, love, in song, that is one thing -- and that is what my list was about. But if you are just talking about 'who can hit what note dead on and hold it?' you've already lost the joy of music, imo.
The Old ManThe Old ManMember
quote:
Originally posted by Shane T.:
quote:
Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.

Krueger?
S shanetMember
quote:
Originally posted by The Old Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Shane T.:
quote:
Originally posted by steve8:
I thought the women were listed on a technical basis too. How else to explain the inclusion of vomit inducing people like Celine Dion and Mariah Carey?


Absolutely based on technical ability, as you couldn't pay me to sit through one of their albums.

With that in mind for the men, there is no way in hell Freddie should be off of any list!...although he is far from vomit inducing to me.

Krueger?


Of course. Who did you think I was talking about?!
A adam10Member
quote:
Originally posted by winetarelli:
"Technical ability" is far too ironic and vague a true standard. A drum machine will strike its note more precisely than Charlie Watts, yet great drummers are far superior to machines.

The analogous is true of singing. If "technical ability" includes ability to transmit emotion, story, nuance, connection, love, in song, that is one thing -- and that is what my list was about. But if you are just talking about 'who can hit what note dead on and hold it?' you've already lost the joy of music, imo.


Sometimes hitting that note dead on and holding it, transmits emotion and appeal as well though. All subjective. When I hear technical though, same with sport or anything, it means zero argument. Just fact. Like technically, I'm the coolest **** at Christmas. Cool
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