They must think I'm up at the cottage and don't want to disturb me. Smile

Couldn't see anything until I got to the Grosset. I wonder if the 07 is as good as some of the past vintages.
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Originally posted by tannic bastard:
The Barbi Brunello went up $8 or 19%.


Seems many of the Brunellos have significantly gone up in price. Another example, the Banfi (normale) BdM was $58 last year and $68 now.

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Originally posted by maverickdrinker:
anyone have an opinion on the CDPs being released?


We were at Chateauneuf a while back and tasted at the 2004 at the cellar door and recall it was great QPR and tried to find it at LCBO but could not find any until this release. Since 2005 is suppose to be a good year for CdP, I'm looking forward to trying this one.
Oops, sorry! It was the Côte De L'Ange.

Now that I think of it, we also had this wine (the 2004) last winter at 11 Madison in NYC and it was pretty good but not as good as when we had it in Chateauneuf; it was tight, maybe closed? I'm still looking forward to try the 2005 though.
Altos las Hormigas is consistently good, especially for $13, which seems to be even cheaper than usual.

And I've liked every Susana Balbo wine I've tasted, for the price at least, though I've not tasted anything over $20 yet.

Five whole ISDs, whoopee! Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by bman:
Altos las Hormigas is consistently good, especially for $13, which seems to be even cheaper than usual.

And I've liked every Susana Balbo wine I've tasted, for the price at least, though I've not tasted anything over $20 yet.

Bman, you may be mistaking this (or not) for the reserva, which has been around $28.

I've never had the lower priced bottling, but if it's anything close to the reserva, it's definitely work a look.

Cheers,

- Ian

Five whole ISDs, whoopee! Roll Eyes
The lower priced Hormigas just got an 86 or 87 score from WS I think, which is less than usual but still OK for a burger/pizza wine.

I tried the reserva and loved it (it was in the Top 100, I think Confused), but thought it overpriced for what it was. I had it in London UK 3 years ago for much less, but that's (sadly) no surprise for Ontario.
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Originally posted by on the wine:
They must think I'm up at the cottage and don't want to disturb me. Smile

Couldn't see anything until I got to the Grosset. I wonder if the 07 is as good as some of the past vintages.


If I may suggest taking a second look at these wines:

#1 Pick: 2005 Casa Silva Los Lingues Gran Reserva Carmenere $17.95 which Vintages notes was scored 88pts by Josh Raynolds. They did not mention the 90pts from Anthony Gismondi or the 91pts from Jay Miller of Wine Advocate. Handpicked grapes, sorted 4 times and 70% of the grapes were basket pressed. Parker suggests a cellar life of 10-12 years.

#2 Pick: 2005 Pirramimma Cabernet Sauvignon $23.95 was scored 90pts by Gary Walsh of Australia and Highly Recommended by Ric Einstein aka TORB. The wine was very dark, reflecting the 24 months in American oak.

#3 Pick: 2005 Yering Station Pinot Noir $22.95 with a score of 18pts from Jancis Robinson -- winemaker Tom Carson produced a super red Burgundy for a fraction of the cost of something French.

#4 Pick: 2001 Vergenoegd Cabernet Sauvignon $23.95 was scored 91pts by Wine Enthusiast. Mature Cab that's ready to go.

#5 Pick: 2007 Cafe Culture Pinotage $13.95 may turn out to be the best value of the release. The nose screams Tiramisou and cherries - not like anything you'd expect from Pinotage. Delicious.

#6 Pick: 2004 Sa Solin Ripasso $16.95 is a return from the February 16th release at $16.75. Dense, complex, structured.

#7 Pick: 2001 Boutari Naoussa Grande Reserve $14.95 could be mistaken for a Nebbiolo. Tannic wine that demands meat or cheese.

#8 Pick: 2006 Torbreck Woodcutters Shiraz $24.95 is a return from April 12th release when it was $1 more. Scored 92 from Jay Miller but 'only' 88pts from Wine Spectator. My only quibble is that you can find this wine in Manhattan store for $16US.

#9 Pick : any of the Toasted Head red wines. packed with fruit and perfect for the bbq's to come.

#10 Pick: 2004 Sonsierra Crianza $17.95 offers good QPR.

Other picks:
either Thorne-Clarke white wines
St Francis Chardonnay
Penfolds Thomas Hyland Chardonnay
Wolf Blass Chardonnay
Kunde Magnolia Lane Sauv. Blanc

I hate to say this, but I'm picking up some Kir-Yianni Akakies Rose. Toast the Olympics with grapes grown near the slopes of Mt Olympus.

This release isn't really THAT bad and some of the wines mentioned will no doubt be unforgettable.

CHEERS
Good list nicos, thank you! Will give the Casa Silva a try for this weekend's BBQ party.

Your comment about the price of the Woodcutters is right on. It used to be good QPR but not so much now. Similarly for the Yering Station Pinot Noir where it's sub-$20 in the US. The days of good value Aussies at the LCBO is becoming a thing of the past.
Nicos comments and Greg's Cellar Tracker post has put some life back into this release.

I was also thinking the Casa Silva would be worth a try. Also, anyone have any thoughts on the 2004 Villa Cerna Chianti Classico Riserva - is it worth the $30?
the more I look at this release -the more I find I might want to try. I trust my vintages guy in Windsor to help me pair the list down ...to keep my wife happy (sort of 0

2005 Domaine de la Côte de l'Ange Châteauneuf-du-Pape WS 92 CT 86 ( just a few CT rankings) $37.95

2006 Thorn-Clarke Riesling Terra Barossa WS 91 CT 85.2 $14.95

2006 Susana Balbo Malbec WS 91 CT 89 $22.95

the above are all 90 + in WS - to keep the list short

Greg
The Summerhill store had about 2 cases of the Côte de l'Ange on the shelves mid-afternoon and by about 9pm there were about 4-5 bottles left. It was also available in the tasting room, tried it, and it was fantastic but still very young and definitely needs to be decanted. This will not last long on the shelves.
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Originally posted by Stevey:
The Summerhill store had about 2 cases of the Côte de l'Ange on the shelves mid-afternoon and by about 9pm there were about 4-5 bottles left. It was also available in the tasting room, tried it, and it was fantastic but still very young and definitely needs to be decanted. This will not last long on the shelves.


RE: La Cote de L'Ange CNP - If it helps, my store on Upper Middle Rd in Oakville has one case and all 12 bottles will be moved to the sales floor in time for store opening.
First come, first served, no limit per customer.

I've also updated my web page for AUG 2nd Release with more info and links to wine sheets that contain all reviews and awards... if you are interested, the link is here: http://www.freewebs.com/winething8/august22008vintages.htm

The info sheets will be updated again to include notes from Stimmell and Beppi on the morning of the Release.

CHEERS
I tasted the La Cote de L'Ange at maverickdrinker's place tonight and it wasn't bad. Plenty of fruit there but there was a significant green tinge through the middle that I wasn't overly fond of.
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Originally posted by nicos:

RE: La Cote de L'Ange CNP - If it helps, my store on Upper Middle Rd in Oakville has one case and all 12 bottles will be moved to the sales floor in time for store opening.
First come, first served, no limit per customer.

I've also updated my web page for AUG 2nd Release with more info and links to wine sheets that contain all reviews and awards... if you are interested, the link is here: http://www.freewebs.com/winething8/august22008vintages.htm

The info sheets will be updated again to include notes from Stimmell and Beppi on the morning of the Release.

CHEERS


Thanks again nicos, great informative website! I've bookmarked it for future reference.

I suspect Summerhill has more cases in the back which will be shelved today. I'm likely to go buy more for the cellar. Also bought a bottle of the Casa Silva based on your recommendation.
Thanks again nicos, great informative website! I've bookmarked it for future reference.

I suspect Summerhill has more cases in the back which will be shelved today. I'm likely to go buy more for the cellar. Also bought a bottle of the Casa Silva based on your recommendation.[/QUOTE]

Appreciate the feedback stevey.

You can link to the above site and future releases from the main page at www.freewebs.com/nickswine

I also inform customers that shop my location when products are being marked down: EG. the 2 latest Markdowns are found at: www.freewebs.com/winething7 & www.freewebs.com/winething8. Not everything is a 'deal' so I try to identify those items with a "PICK" tag.

The main page at www.freewebs.com/nickswine should be updated shortly with info for products in upcoming releases as far ahead as February 2009.

If you drag the cursor to the bottom of the main page then you'll find links to a Master List which will be updated with info on wines in Verticals and another link to a list of sources of Local reviewers whose notes are added to the info sheets compiled.

BTW. Customers place their orders early enough that I add them to my requested store allocation in advance of the release. This way customer orders that can be satisfied are available for pickup as soon as the truck makes the delivery. Only store allocated stock (for General store traffic) is put on the floor on the morning of release day. Customer orders were never intended to see the floor hence it's OK to pickup early.

Customers seem to enjoy the flexibility since they can view detailed info on products and place orders even if they are out of town... :-)

CHEERS
Thanks again nicos, looking forward to visiting your site at least before each release.

I didn't know customers can place orders in advance of release?? Is this new LCBO policy?
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Originally posted by Stevey:
Thanks again nicos, looking forward to visiting your site at least before each release.

I didn't know customers can place orders in advance of release?? Is this new LCBO policy?


Last page of every Vintage catalogue notes the following under a heading ''how to shop''
"Important -- customers must submit their 'requests to their local LCBO store by 11am the Tuesday before the Release date."

Customers who have placed their 'requests' in April 2008 for products featured in the August 30, 2008 Release have done exactly that.. :-)

It is all a matter of numbers. If I plan to order 5 cases for a simple floor display and have accumulated customer orders for 10 cases, I will transmit an order for 15 cases of that product. IF, all 15 cases are confirmed allocated, then customers have their orders confirmed and advised when the truck makes the delivery -- and when they can pick up their customer order. IF, confirmation is not received (because supply is minimal relative to demand) then all orders are placed in abeyance and all stock goes to the sales floor -- first come first served is the only fair way I can think of doing it.

Customers are advised in advance (at least a week prior to the Release) of any such circumstances to allow them to make alternate arrangements if necessary. If enough customers advise me they have made such arrangements, then very often the remaining customers may have their orders re-confirmed given the withdrawal of other customers.

Close coordination with customers ensures that expectations are met and allows for delivery of service. Nobody is left hanging out to dry.

This process takes time, which is something most staff do not have. Many do not understand the motivation for engaging in such a plan of action especially when there is NO personal benefit. My answer to such puzzled inquiries has always been the same.

Have you heard of the adage that "unless you're the lead huskey, the view is the same". Lets just say my sales do not suffer and the satisfaction of trying to be in the lead provides a certain non-financial benefit.

Hope this helps.

CHEERS
Glad to hear that there are PCs (I presume that you're a PC?) out there like you Nicos. We have a few here too, but too many who don't get basic client service, or can't be bothered. And we just lost one of the best, Sarah Flynn, who has moved to a non-wine career.
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Originally posted by bman:
Glad to hear that there are PCs (I presume that you're a PC?) out there like you Nicos. We have a few here too, but too many who don't get basic client service, or can't be bothered. And we just lost one of the best, Sarah Flynn, who has moved to a non-wine career.


Yup. Completely agree with you. I think Sarah worked at the Gloucester store (if I recall correctly). Charles at the main store in Ottawa is also top shelf based on my experience.

BTW had the cafe pinotage with smoky ribs and then with some tiramisou as desert. As Jancis Robinson would say, a truly good wine delivers "Ah" and this one absolutely did. I was curious if anyone else tried it.
We had that ch du pape that is mentioned on page 1, whbse name I obviously forget, and it was very good, especially for the price. I never liked young ch du pape but this one tasted fine.
It's interesting to see the range of different reactions to the Cote de l'Ange CdP. I tried it on the weekend and thought the green/vegetal character was quite overpowering, and it totally spoiled my appreciation of this wine. For me, this was a bad deal for $37 - I've had better CdP at this price level.

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