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Originally posted by Duojet:
I hate it when the LCBO has a couple of good releases in a row, especially before Christmas.

At first glance, the Kistler, Alion, Remoissenet Cham-Musigny and the Fuligni BDM all look very tempting.

You might want to be careful about the Kistler Les Noisetiers Chardonnay. Past vintage was very oaky and not typical of their other chards.
Fournier B Crux is on my list -- one of the few (only?) Argentinian reds I can enjoy. Great perfume (more than just violets & more violets), round fruit & phenolics, ages well in the short-term. Good QPR @ $25.

Also going for '05 Fuligni BdM. Camymus SS would be a good buy at $80-100 but $140 is ridiculous (I picked up some Robert Craig Cab, Mount Veeder, in Chi last month; it's every bit as inky, rich and long, and worth the 94 Parker points, but only $60!).

2 wines on my list. Love the limited hit to the wallet!
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Originally posted by on the wine:
You working late too?


Oh yes, I was. Reminds me of a line from Hamlet, "a heavy summons lies like lead upon me, but yet I would not sleep." I worked a little late last night -- 1:30 -- by which I couldn't fall asleep and just rolled in bed. A few hours looking at a Canon 5D Mk 2 (that I can't afford), a Samsumg 55" 120Hz LED TV (that I don't need), and perusing here passed the time very well. Come to think of it, I have Colheita in the fridge; why the hell didn't I have a nightcap?! What kept you up? Smile
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Originally posted by matthyson:
That's quite the bump on the Sassicaia; 20 some percent.

It used to be inline with US pricing but now it's a good 30 bucks more. Guess a strong dollar doesn't matter much to our control board overlords.


I don't think that's right. Unless my records are wrong, it's been $184.95 for the last 2 vintages (I don't think the $149.99 on the LCBO's website for the 2006 vintage is correct).
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Originally posted by Darcy Kelley:
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Originally posted by on the wine:
You working late too?


Oh yes, I was. Reminds me of a line from Hamlet, "a heavy summons lies like lead upon me, but yet I would not sleep." I worked a little late last night -- 1:30 -- by which I couldn't fall asleep and just rolled in bed. A few hours looking at a Canon 5D Mk 2 (that I can't afford), a Samsumg 55" 120Hz LED TV (that I don't need), and perusing here passed the time very well. Come to think of it, I have Colheita in the fridge; why the hell didn't I have a nightcap?! What kept you up? Smile

Lots of e-mails flying back and forth to central/eastern Europe kept me going until about 4:15. But then I did have a nightcap (2 glasses from a leftover bottle of Barolo).
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I don't think that's right. Unless my records are wrong, it's been $184.95 for the last 2 vintages (I don't think the $149.99 on the LCBO's website for the 2006 vintage is correct).


Right you are. I checked my CellerTracker and saw the 150 which matched the LCBO website.

Then I had to check the purchase location which ended up being the Nova Scotia Liquor Commission who released it for 150. Both the NSLC and New Brunswick version released the 07 for 150 as well this year but I wasn't out east to jump on it.
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Originally posted by Darcy Kelley:
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Originally posted by on the wine:
You mean you're not tempted by the Caymus Special, Vieux Telegraphe La Crau, or the Michele Castellani Cinque Stelle?

I'm not pleased I bought VT futures at $85 and it'll be released at $76.95.

"Buy futures so we can charge you more" -- nice one, LCBO. Just nasty.

I don't blame you. It was $75 at SAQ.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wine Canuck:
For now I'm most interested in:

2008 REIGNAC - I'm hoping this is the Reignac (Grand Vin) and not Château de Reignac (Their 2nd wine), see here. The Grand Vin got a RP 90-93 in 2008

Confirming for you it will be the Grand that you prefer. Here is note from the Vintages Catalogue:

2008 Chateau de Reignac
AC Bordeaux Superieur
NOTE: A beautiully made, perennial overachiever from proprietor Yves Vatelot, the 2008 Reignac was cropped at 30 hectolitres per hectare....75% Merlot, 25% Cabernet Sauvignon. As good as the outstanding 2005, the 2008 transcends its appellation with its display of power, deep, dark fruits, spice box, and cedar. Pure and dense with ripe tannins as well as the vintage's remarkable freshness and precision, it should drink well for 6-8 years. Score 90-93 Robert Parker (April 2009)
CSPC# 192682
(XD) $24.95

CHEERS.
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Originally posted by nicos:
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Originally posted by Wine Canuck:
For now I'm most interested in:

2008 REIGNAC - I'm hoping this is the Reignac (Grand Vin) and not Château de Reignac (Their 2nd wine), see here. The Grand Vin got a RP 90-93 in 2008


Confirming for you it will be the Grand that you prefer. Here is note from the Vintages Catalogue:

2008 Chateau de Reignac
AC Bordeaux Superieur
NOTE: A beautiully made, perennial overachiever from proprietor Yves Vatelot, the 2008 Reignac was cropped at 30 hectolitres per hectare....75% Merlot, 25% Cabernet Sauvignon. As good as the outstanding 2005, the 2008 transcends its appellation with its display of power, deep, dark fruits, spice box, and cedar. Pure and dense with ripe tannins as well as the vintage's remarkable freshness and precision, it should drink well for 6-8 years. Score 90-93 Robert Parker (April 2009)
CSPC# 192682
(XD) $24.95

CHEERS.


I'm still somewhat concerned. Although the Parker score would indicate it is the Grand Vin. The item is clearly marked "Chateau de Reignac" which is the name of their second wine and did not receive that score to my knowledge. The bottle pictured is clearly "Chateau de Reignac" and not "Reignac" (see labels on CT). My gut tells me this is an LCBO mistake. I'll be sending an email to them for clarification later today.
The Vintages Catalogue can be found HERE.

Wine Canuck, I think your gut feeling of an LCBO error is correct. If you look at the picture of the wine bottle on page 48, it does appear to be a normally shaped bottle with a white label, which is Eric's description of the 2nd wine.

Also, if you consider the 2nd wine is ~$12 in the US vs. up to $40 for the Grand Vin, and LCBO's normal overpricing of Bordeaux in general, then LCBO price of $25 is more in line with it being the 2nd wine.

If you want to be absolutely sure, you can always call the agent (The Case for Wine) directly.
LCBO email response:

"Thank you for contacting LCBO Customer Service about Reignac from Nov 27 Release. If you would like more detailed information on a Vintage product please contact a vintage store in your area to speak with a product consultant. Here is a store location link that you can add the option of product consultant to your search."

Real Useful... I bet my local PC will be really well informed too Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Wine Canuck:
LCBO email response:

"Thank you for contacting LCBO Customer Service about Reignac from Nov 27 Release. If you would like more detailed information on a Vintage product please contact a vintage store in your area to speak with a product consultant. Here is a store location link that you can add the option of product consultant to your search."

Real Useful... I bet my local PC will be really well informed too Roll Eyes


Why does this surprise you? It's the LCBO. As I said above, contact the agent directly instead.
I didn't say it surprised me. Usually retailers in any industry will have as much information available as possible or will work hard to get to for you, just pointing out another circumstance where we see LCBO bureaucracy at its finest. And according to what I have read, part of the reason we still have a monopoly on Liquor in Ontario is that they claim to have superior customer service to privatization. Yeah right. I'll call the distributor when I get a chance this week and report back.

On another note I just noticed the '03 Tokaji 4 Puttonyos @ $23.95 on this release. Seems like a good price to me, any thoughts?
I expect that the issue with the VT price drop is exchange rates. The Euro dropped significantly and I expect the futures contract was paid for by a more expensive Euro than the current release. Futures are a risk by nature and they aren't guaranteed to be less expensive than the later release. If you gamble, you have to be prepared to take a loss.
I still haven't solved the Reignac mystery, but something else has caught my attention. The 2005 Bodegas y Viñedos del Jalón Calatayud Alto Las Pizarras. The bottle pictured appears to be the less expensive Catalunya Las Pizarras version, however the name is the more expensive Altos Las Pizarras. My research shows that the less expensive Catalunya version only got a Jay Miller 91 as opposed to the Jay Miller 93 shown. the Vintages description says it's from Catalunya, further adding to the confusion.

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=447877
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=447878

Really sucks, I'm trying to count on Vintages for accurate information but I'm trusting them less and less every day.
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Originally posted by futronic:
They're also probably different CSPCs, so even if you return your futures product, you'd have to find some of the new CSPC product to purchase at a lower price.

That's pretty well a moot point because the UPC code is the same. I returned my 3 bottles of futures for the $85 -- but it took 15+ minutes just for that one product, alone (product consultant called to ensure it was not a substitution). The UPC on the futures scans now at $77, despite the wine not being released for 2 more weeks.
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Originally posted by Wine Canuck:
I still haven't solved the Reignac mystery, but something else has caught my attention. The 2005 Bodegas y Viñedos del Jalón Calatayud Alto Las Pizarras. The bottle pictured appears to be the less expensive Catalunya Las Pizarras version, however the name is the more expensive Altos Las Pizarras. My research shows that the less expensive Catalunya version only got a Jay Miller 91 as opposed to the Jay Miller 93 shown. the Vintages description says it's from Catalunya, further adding to the confusion.

http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=447877
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=447878

Really sucks, I'm trying to count on Vintages for accurate information but I'm trusting them less and less every day.


Hey Wine Canuck, I have the Nov 27th shipment in my backroom now so if you wanted any info pertaining to the Reignac just drop me a line at 905-849-9934 from 9-6 and I can provide you with all the details from the label.

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