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Originally posted by ohtheHumanity:
I don't care if people eat meat. I dont care if animals die. I do care if people go around attacking someone for not eating it, and I also care when people think not eating meat is unhealthy.
See, that's the problem..... Confused

I can't for the life of me understand why you would care what I, or anyone else thinks...... Confused

Obviously, I don't share the same compassion... Cool
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Originally posted by ohtheHumanity:
I am a vegetarian and I wanted to know if there are any others of you out there? It's hard to hold a good pairing conversation with someone when they talk about steaks and cab's, when i haven't eaten any animal products for almost 2 years.


I don't care if your vegetarian or not. Eat whatever the hell you like. I love veggies. If it wasn't for the fact that I also like meat and somehow I ended up with sharp enough teeth to rip it to shreds, I'd be a vegetarian too. But I will tell you this: If you've never had a great steak with a great Cab, you haven't had either.
Qweniden, ok, we've got it, you have hardy any vegetarian friends (insert dumb GA crackback about hidden vegetarianism and a screwy mouse).

And cdr11, you? A vegetarian? Good job. Or is this an elaborate setup?

Good morning everyone, back to the subject: I had a decent Chalone 2005 Pinot N two nights ago with a slice of vegetarian pizza. The tangy pizza sauce tasted great with the wine's cherries and tart strawberries.
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Originally posted by Ania:
I don't mind vegetarians. It's the "meat is murder" " I won't eat anything with a face & tail" anti-hunting types I think are idiots.


Nice to know that you don't mind us regular vegetarians, and think we're not idiots. I'm happy for your approval, and am so relieved. I'm sure mensa members Mr. Heston and Cat Scratch Fever would agree.
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Originally posted by indybob:
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Originally posted by Ania:
I don't mind vegetarians. It's the "meat is murder" " I won't eat anything with a face & tail" anti-hunting types I think are idiots.


Nice to know that you don't mind us regular vegetarians, and think we're not idiots. I'm happy for your approval, and am so relieved. I'm sure mensa members Mr. Heston and Cat Scratch Fever would agree.


By the tone and content of your post and the fact you took offense to that, I would venture to say you are not just a regular vegatarian. I'm sure PETA would agree. Big Grin

I was not giving anyone approval. Just stating my opinion. I'm entitled to think anyone I want is an idiot. Big Grin
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Originally posted by Ania:
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Originally posted by indybob:
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Originally posted by Ania:
I don't mind vegetarians. It's the "meat is murder" " I won't eat anything with a face & tail" anti-hunting types I think are idiots.


Nice to know that you don't mind us regular vegetarians, and think we're not idiots. I'm happy for your approval, and am so relieved. I'm sure mensa members Mr. Heston and Cat Scratch Fever would agree.


By the tone and content of your post and the fact you took offense to that, I would venture to say you are not just a regular vegatarian. I'm sure PETA would agree. Big Grin

I was not giving anyone approval. Just stating my opinion. I'm entitled to think anyone I want is an idiot. Big Grin


Ya got me, I am looking at my PETA card right now. But, for the record, I'm not one of "those" vegetarians, whatever that is. I eat ethically fished seafood and wear leather. Every now and then I'll have some organic turkey or chicken. My brother-in-law kills an elk each year, and I'll have a nice hunk of it with Thanksgiving dinner each year.
Why do I belong to PETA? I support their beliefs, even if I don't adhere to all of them.
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Originally posted by Een:
If you eat fish and sometimes chicken, you're not a vegetarian!


Trust me, I know this as well as anyone. I lived in California most of my life, but have been in Indiana for the past several years. Out here, many of the "Hoosiers" as they call themselves, think that if you don't eat red meat (cow, lamb, horse) you're a vegetarian. I'll routinely say I'm a vegetarian, and get offered chicken and even pork in these parts. Bizarre, so I just kind of roll with it and often go with the "Hoosier" vegetarian moniker. Sorry for the confusion.

I reserve the right to have a cut of elk with my family once a year.
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Originally posted by indybob:
Ya got me, I am looking at my PETA card right now.....I eat ethically fished seafood...Every now and then I'll have some organic turkey or chicken. My brother-in-law kills an elk each year, and I'll have a nice hunk of it with....

indybob,

Your statements confirm that you are not really a vegetarian. Since your brother-in-law hunts elk, what is your opinion of deer hunters? Also, are you aware that the acronym of PETA stands for “People Eating Tasty Animals”?
Altaholic, "BAAAAAAAAAAA!!!", "People Eating Tasty Animals," hilarious, hadn't heard that one before. see my above post

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Originally posted by Een:
You can eat whatever you want but you're no vegetarian. I am from Iowa and live in Chicago and midwesterners are smart enough to understand the term. It's when people use it as you do that it confuses them.


Sorry you're confused.
What's a vegetarian??? That term is foreign to me. However, I did hear once where someone said that a vegetarian is a bad hunter that is incapable of making a kill.

I think the problem stems from people not understanding or even knowing about Genesis 9:3, where God tells Noah, "Every moving thing that liveth shall be food for you". If the Creator of the world says to eat meat, He doesn't have to tell me twice. Big Grin
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Originally posted by indybob:
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Originally posted by Altaholic:
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Originally posted by indybob:
Ya got me, I am looking at my PETA card right now.....I eat ethically fished seafood...Every now and then I'll have some organic turkey or chicken. My brother-in-law kills an elk each year, and I'll have a nice hunk of it with....

indybob,

Your statements confirm that you are not really a vegetarian. Since your brother-in-law hunts elk, what is your opinion of deer hunters? Also, are you aware that the acronym of PETA stands for “People Eating Tasty Animals”?


Seriously, since you've asked (I'm not always a smart a#%). Regarding hunting, I'd never do it, but I suppose that if you're going to eat red meat, I think that taking a gun out in the woods to shoot something that lived its entire life outdoors, with clean air and water, is nobler, and much healthier than cramming down feedlot burgers.

My hunter bro in law, my sister, and their kids, put that yearly elk in the freezer, and eat it in lieu of store bought beef over the next year (no, they don't live in a dirty trailer in the sticks).
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Originally posted by ohtheHumanity:
I do care if people go around attacking someone for not eating it, and I also care when people think not eating meat is unhealthy.

Generally, it's the vegetarians that are the ones doing the attacking of the omnivores.

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Originally posted by ohtheHumanity:
And RIT has one of leading nutrition programs in the nation. (I bet they let alot of idiots through there.)

Don't you mean to say "a lot of idiots"?
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I am not a vegetarian and the only ones I have met who aren't absolutely silly are the ones who never talk about it.


Trust me, after being asked for the 10,000th time why you don't eat meat, it becomes a weary topic. Now my stock answer to the question is, "So I could have something to talk about at cocktail parties". That usually ends the conversation pretty quick.

BTW, if anyone here is considering being a vegetarian here, allow me to try and talk you out of it. It sucks. If I could eat meat I would. The menu limitations and social awkwardness blows.
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Originally posted by Qweniden:
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I am not a vegetarian and the only ones I have met who aren't absolutely silly are the ones who never talk about it.


Trust me, after being asked for the 10,000th time why you don't eat meat, it becomes a weary topic. Now my stock answer to the question is, "So I could have something to talk about at cocktail parties". That usually ends the conversation pretty quick.

BTW, if anyone here is considering being a vegetarian here, allow me to try and talk you out of it. It sucks. If I could eat meat I would. The menu limitations and social awkwardness blows.
OK, even though you are an herbivore, I'd drink wine with you.... Big Grin
Indybob, I am not confused. However, if those inferior midwesterners you are not forced to live amongst don't know what a vegetarian is, it is because there are people wandering around calling themselves vegetarian and then grabbing a chicken leg. See, there's the confusion.

I was a vegetarian for 14 year. I did not eat animals. I now eat animals. Pretty straightforward, no?

One small reason that I started eating meat again was that it is hard to be inconspicuous and I never wanted to stick out and be that type of vegetarian.
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Originally posted by Qweniden:
BTW, if anyone here is considering being a vegetarian here, allow me to try and talk you out of it. It sucks. If I could eat meat I would. The menu limitations and social awkwardness blows.


I must be missing something here.

You COULD eat meat. You choose not to. Then you complain about all the hardships you suffer because you don't.

Choosing whether or not to be a vegetarian is just that, a choice. Live with it without complaining, or change. The choice is yours.

If the reason is medical, I take it back.

THIII
Transitioning back to eating meat is something that must be done slowly. I learned the very hard way. I went to a dinner party thrown by some friends of friends who just moved from Sicily. There was no way I was going to be the picky American so I ate everything. I was sick as a dog the next day. From there on, I started adding meat products in small bites. I now eat it maybe once or twice a week and mostly stick to fish. The only meat I have no urge to eat is chicken but would be swayed if something looked really good.
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Originally posted by Een:
Indybob, I am not confused. However, if those inferior midwesterners you are not forced to live amongst don't know what a vegetarian is, it is because there are people wandering around calling themselves vegetarian and then grabbing a chicken leg. See, there's the confusion.

I was a vegetarian for 14 year. I did not eat animals. I now eat animals. Pretty straightforward, no?

One small reason that I started eating meat again was that it is hard to be inconspicuous and I never wanted to stick out and be that type of vegetarian.


No worries, I'm not holding the chicken leg in one hand and a tofurkey in the other. But, I see your point, well taken, but springing "ovo-lacto-pesca-tarian" on folks is a challenge, so I just eat what I want, and if it includes a couple of hunks of meat once a year at family outings, so be it. And, bummer that you're eating meat in part because you're afraid of sticking out in an omnivorious world.

About stomaching meat after a vegetarian bout. I've heard other complaints about this. In college, I'd gone full blown vegan for three years, and on a spur of the moment, had a double double (In n Out) with cheese, and was fortunate in that it went down and stayed down just fine. Cast iron stomach I guess.

Cheers,

-B

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