Recently, I bought an out of the norm white French wine at Wine Exchange – an Apremont 2005. The grape used is Jacquere (never heard of it). To my novice palate, the wine was refreshing with a pleasant acidity, almost a little bubbly like Champagne. I did get an aroma of pears. But, I also smelled a hint of urine. Am I crazy, or what? Are there pleasant tasting wines that may give off such smells?
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It's a sincere and ignorant (lack-of-wine-knowledge) question. Seriously, I learned quickly to respect these forums. I did not mean much else but to learn. Maybe, I will post it to Dr. Vinny. Anyhow, in my two years (only) of drinking wine, the weird urine smell was a first; and, it happened with a white wine from somewhere in France.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
Is it my synical self, or do I smell a set-up? Roll Eyes

CDR? Is that you? Razz Big Grin

Big Grin

Nope, CDR's still MIA.

Sancho, just having a bit of fun. As far as WS fun-loving riff-raff goes, KSC02 and myself are pretty tame.

Sometimes funky, stinky aromas are passed off romantically as "terroir" when some wines are tasted, usually French ones. Terroir is an interesting catch-all that a lot of folks use to describe a unique sense of place some wines supposedly exhibit. They'll say, "wow, taste that barnyard flavor, I'll bet that's from the Vacqueyras area, delicious!" My jury is out on it, as I tend to think it's a lot of hocus pocus, and well, I don't really like tasting stuff that reminds me of dirt, piss and poop. But, to each their own.
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Originally posted by MeritageMan:
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well, I don't really like tasting stuff that reminds me of dirt, piss and poop



From now on, whenever ANYONE asks me why my cellar consists of so much New World ...

THAT is the quote I shall use Big Grin


Just give me a credit. Big Grin Wink
p-mentha-8-thiol-3-one is a by product of fermintation that is a sulfur containg compound. In small amounts it gives a leafy green smell, at high amounts it can give black current flavors. In a certain range it smells like cat's piss. It can be present in Cabernet Sauvignon.

That compound is part of a larger group of compounds called Mercaptans, which are a thiol, composed of a sulfur atom and a hydrogen atom.

Mercaptans are usually formed when a wine sits on its lees for an extend period of time and sulfur is either added or present from late sulfuring in the vineyard. It's rather easy to correct in the winery by racking the wine off it's lees and exposing it to oxygen, which will release the sulfur.

Personally I try and avoid these smells in my wine, but some winemakers prefer to leave the wine on it's lees and encourage the mercaptan smells.

Mercaptans are also part of a wider group of smells called reduction or reductive which technically includes any sulfur based smell in wine, but from my experience tends to get misued more often than not.
Amazing! Most excellent info...thanks. I've printed it for reference.

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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:
p-mentha-8-thiol-3-one is a by product of fermintation that is a sulfur containg compound. In small amounts it gives a leafy green smell, at high amounts it can give black current flavors. In a certain range it smells like cat's piss. It can be present in Cabernet Sauvignon.

That compound is part of a larger group of compounds called Mercaptans, which are a thiol, composed of a sulfur atom and a hydrogen atom.

Mercaptans are usually formed when a wine sits on its lees for an extend period of time and sulfur is either added or present from late sulfuring in the vineyard. It's rather easy to correct in the winery by racking the wine off it's lees and exposing it to oxygen, which will release the sulfur.

Personally I try and avoid these smells in my wine, but some winemakers prefer to leave the wine on it's lees and encourage the mercaptan smells.

Mercaptans are also part of a wider group of smells called reduction or reductive which technically includes any sulfur based smell in wine, but from my experience tends to get misued more often than not.

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