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Hi there. I'm a wine novice. Have discovered I like red wine, not white wine. I have a bottle of white wine I thought might make a good addition to the Christmas gift exchange.... if it's still good.

It's a Robert Mondavi 'Woodbridge', Barrell Aged, Chardonnay, 1997

Unfortunately, there are no 'best if opened by...' labels. WOuld this bottle still be a decent gift? Or should I not risk it and try for something else?

Thanks for your help.

Merry Christmas
Tiffany
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I'll answer Tiffany, who, as a novice asked for advice. Instead she received wine snobbery.

Tiffany, the Woodbridge wines are simple wines, generally enjoyed by the masses, but not highly regarded by wine afficianados. They are good, mass produced wines, meant for everyday enjoyment. As a novice, you could learn about varietal characteristics, enjoy them with a meal and they won't cost you much money.

However, the wine you have is a 1997 Chardonnay. The wine was released in 1998 and started to turn brown and lose all its fruit by 2000. (This would apply to most California chards, from any vintage- enjoy them in the first years.) That wine should have been drunk 5+ years ago to be any good. It is way past its usefulness now and should be thrown away.
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Il Duce,

I didn't detect any snobbery. Confused GreenDrazi said basically the same thing you did, however used several less words, and a good bit more humor! Big Grin

It's funny, as a group of us were talking about "bad" wines last night. One of our group indicated that he'd never had a wine he "knew" to be corked. If you ever have a chance to share the aroma of a corked bottle with a novice, you'll be doing them a much greater favor than having them taste a tired, declining California Chard that never was much in it's finest hour.

PH
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Il Duce,

I didn't detect any snobbery. Confused GreenDrazi said basically the same thing you did, however used several less words, and a good bit more humor! Big Grin

PH


"It wasn't worth drinking upon release and has only gone downhill since" isn't wine snobbery??? Sorry, when I was a beginner some 20 years ago, I don't remember drinking DRC, cult Cabs, or top Brunello. I drank Beringer White Zin, Carlo Rossi Paisano and cheap German Spatlese and I LEARNED from them and my tastes evolved. Putting down wines that beginners drink and consider good IS wine snobbery in its highest form. Just because it is beneath you, don't put it down and make it seem that way to her. In fact, for a beginner, they're not bad wines. What is funny to you is insulting to someone asking for help.
IL Duce,

My humblest apologies if you found my post snobbery. In this day and age of the internet and these, oh so brief encounters, I try to be concise with an occasional bit of humor.

For your reference, WS scored the wine a S80 and please note the drinking window.

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Pleasant but simple, with tangerine and toast flavors. Drink now. (HS)
Nov 30, 1998



BTW, Il Duce was my favorite of the Axis leaders.
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Originally posted by GreenDrazi:
IL Duce,

My humblest apologies if you found my post snobbery. In this day and age of the internet and these, oh so brief encounters, I try to be concise with an occasional bit of humor.

For your reference, WS scored the wine a S80 and please note the drinking window.

[QUOTE]Pleasant but simple, with tangerine and toast flavors. Drink now. (HS)
Nov 30, 1998



I am impressed by your acknowledgment. Please understand where I am coming from. Place yourself as a novice in any of your affections and asking for help of people that you consider experts. Then imagine one of those "experts" telling you that what you thought was good is crap and make a joke out of it. Not a good feeling? Add that to the belief by the majority that wine drinkers are snobs and you have snowballed the feeling. I'm done.

Also, as to your review, my belief is still that an 80 point wine is not a bad wine and good for novices. Here is WS defintion:

"80-84 Good: a solid, well-made wine"

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