Anybody watching this?

I got into it last season and fought it rather entertaining. I'm not sure they're actually picking the best chef, but they certainly pick one that has to be quick on their feet and up to a very spontaneous challenge.


Yeah, I tune in for Padma too. Razz
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I agree. It seems odd that Bravo has this type show.

Food Network has a lot of weak shows. The good ones are far outnumbered by the crappy ones.

Another network that does some interesting food/drinking shows is Fine Living. You have to look for them, but they are there.

AZN has the truly classic show. Get Drunk in China. No kidding.
Yeah. The more I'm thinking about it. I like Take Home Chef too (not FN). Maybe I just like that one because he picks up the hottest little MILFs. Razz I think there is only like 5 minutes of actual cooking, but who cares?

I also like the guy who eats all the weird food around the world "bizarre food" or something - that's Travel Channel I think. I like that one.

Food Nework needs help.

Emeril's live show is beyond ridiculous. Iron Chef is WAY too over the top and silly. I like Diners, Drive ins and Dives and a few others - but like you said, very few.

Ohh, forgot Giada's italian cooking show. Seeing her slice garlic with her prime Italian "Cleavage" is always worth a viewing... Smile and she does cook my style, which I like. Unlike college dorm 10,000 calorie dish girl - Rachel Ray. "Let's just put another stick of butter in there..." Roll Eyes
Wife and I are "Top Chef" addicts...we've been tuning in since Season 2. Personally, Padma irritates the hell out of me...practically every time she opens her mouth I cringe and squirm with irritation. I personally thought Niki and her ****balls, er...mushrooms, deserved to be sent packing, but it appears the producers stepped in and decided to keep the "cute" woman around for at least another round.

The past two seasons have convinced me that this show really hits its stride when the competition starts to get pared down to 10, or less, contestants.
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Originally posted by Brashley:
Wife and I are "Top Chef" addicts...we've been tuning in since Season 2. Personally, Padma irritates the hell out of me...practically every time she opens her mouth I cringe and squirm with irritation. I personally thought Niki and her schitballs, er...mushrooms, deserved to be sent packing, but it appears the producers stepped in and decided to keep the "cute" woman around for at least another round.

The past two seasons have convinced me that this show really hits its stride when the competition starts to get pared down to 10, or less, contestants.
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Originally posted by Brashley:
Wife and I are "Top Chef" addicts...we've been tuning in since Season 2. Personally, Padma irritates the hell out of me...practically every time she opens her mouth I cringe and squirm with irritation. I personally thought Niki and her ****balls, er...mushrooms, deserved to be sent packing, but it appears the producers stepped in and decided to keep the "cute" woman around for at least another round.

The past two seasons have convinced me that this show really hits its stride when the competition starts to get pared down to 10, or less, contestants.



Well, I really don't tune in to "listen" to Padma, Roll Eyes

I agree, Nikki should have gotten the boot, but the lady that did wasn't much better. I really can't imagine how they made a mushroom dish that looked so bad, and must have tasted worse. Adding Pecorino to make it more appealing visually? What? All three of those folks need to leave the show, and probably will over the next few weeks.
The faux-hawks and foul language are a turn off. Every other word is beeped. Why can't they choose educated and intelligent contestants? The youthful arrogance of most of these folks is amazing.

And the "molecular gastronomy" crap is a pantload. "Oooh, I'm gonna cook my beef with a laser and add some foam and tree branches, aren't I on the cutting edge?" Roll Eyes
That's really a good point. I understand that there is some significant pressure, but bleeping half of their words only shows they have a limited vocabulary.

I never had heard of the molecular cooking. How silly.

I also didn't know that the Chefs could bring their own tools and gadgets. I thought they could only bring their personal knives.
I think the molecular gastronomy thing is interesting...but I think it's best served as being an accessory to one's culinary point of view...for Richard (is that his name?) to base his entire culinary repertoire on molecular gastronomy seems to be a mistake, IMO. Although I don't profess to know much about molecular gastronomy, it seems like something that could go very wrong in the wrong hands...the eucalyptus branches really opened my eyes to the possibility that he shouldn't be messing around with molecular gastronomy nearly as much as he is...it just gets gimmicky after awhile...a touch here, a touch there - great, but to have every dish be all "m.g.'ed"...geez! Whatever happened to stovetop, oven, and raw materials!?! I predict our molecular gastronomist won't last past the top 8. It's still too early for me to call any of my favorites.
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And the "molecular gastronomy" crap is a pantload. "Oooh, I'm gonna cook my beef with a laser and add some foam and tree branches, aren't I on the cutting edge?"


Uh, yeah, I agree. if you need a gimmick to make yourself a good cook, then you obviously aren't.

As for the stuffed mushrooms, how does one make a stuffed mushroom that is not brown and round? Unless it is stuffed with something light-colored. I don't get it.
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The faux-hawks and foul language are a turn off. Every other word is beeped.


I agree. I love the show but the cursing and bleeping is getting a bit much. Especially when getting really pissed at geeky kitchen/food stuff.

"I can't believe my sufle f&ckin sank" or "I couldn't find the [bleep] white pepper!" Smile
I watched season 3 and can't remember the F-Bomb being dropped as much as it has in the 1st 2 episodes of season 4. It really is a big turnoff. As far as the contestants are concerned, last season's seemed to be more likable and, although this is a bit shallow on my part, there is not a "looker" among the female contestants this season as there was last season with Casey. In the early part of this season's show it appears to me that the contestants of season 4 were more talented as well.
If you can find kitchen staff that don't swear like sailors, good luck to you. It's just something you get used to hearing in that environment. I'm not saying it's attractive but it's a reality.

I'm not really into this season--yet. It seems that too many people are cast because they are friends or acquaintances of people from past seasons.

I don't need any good looking contestants but I would like some better challenges and I'd like to see the Chicago food world represented in judging. It's a pity they felt the need to ship in Wylie Dufresne when Homaru Cantu is in our city.
In my opinion, an effective Kitchen Manager/Chef would neither use foul language nor allow it among his staff. If these folks are "serious" "Top Chefs," they should have professional decorum, in my opinion. Cooking, in its truest sense, is a form of hospitality. Foul language is not hospitable and has no place in a professional kitchen. These people just seem uneducated and unsophisticated in my view.

Because it occurs does not mean it is acceptable or desirable.
Cdr, I behaved quite differently than those people when in the kitchen. I understand your viewpoint but the reality of kitchen work is different.

Kitchen staff are rarely out among customers. They are responsible for pushing out food, nothing more. As such, their language/behavior is not regulated as is the front of the house.

I worked for one chef who is a James Beard nominee and she was one of the most horrible people to her staff and foul-mouthed in the kitchen but she'd come out to the public and be as sweet as pie. People who eat her food think she's lovely. Those of us who were consistently abused know better.

There are a lot of great cooks who are not educated. Television has turned cooking into something glamorous an the reality is that it is a trade and you're not going to get all shiny-haired, camera ready Food Network people all the time.
I guess the right guy got released yesterday. Erik seemed like a good guy but he looked (and apparantly cooked) like a line cook at a diner. All of this seemed over his head.

The block party theme was a cool idea. I hate waiting a week between these episodes....
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Hunter, I agree. I was just shocked that no one stopped to think about steam and sogginess.

Zoe's pasta salad was also pretty ghastly and I disliked her whining about it "not being her dish".


Yeah. It's not like people haven't learned that steam and soggy lesson from other dishes. The Bilinis from last week....

It just seemed like Erik really couldn't cook. The Soufle, the bad tacos. Didn't seem like a detail guy. So maybe they just let him make anything that he knew how to make.
I know! I was imploring them to remember the Blini incident.

I don't think he had particularly strong skills either. Sadly, it is pretty easy to get promoted to a chef's role. You just need to work hard, show up and have some ambition. If he's serving solely as an executive chef he may also be a few years removed from actually cooking.
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I was just shocked that no one stopped to think about steam and sogginess


Seriously. if you can't figure out that fried food shouldn't be made several hours before serving, you really just need to go. Even I think about stuff like that when it is just 4 or 6 people for dinner. (not that I deep fry anything)
cdr, I would argue that almost all cooking shows are more about pop culture and image than they are food. The Food Network is really abhorrent to me because it's completely about show, not about cooking. Those hosts/chefs are manufactured personalities, geared to please a certain demographic. They don't often create their recipes. They certainly don't make the food. It's all scripted.

Would you be okay with a heterosexual couple competing? I'm not sure how their being lesbians is affecting the show or its level of class or whatever we want to call it. They're not having sex on camera.

I think this season falls flat because of the challenges and the skill levels of the competitors.
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Een, I think what cdr means is that we couldn't care less if they are gay lovers or hetero lovers and all.
They need to show more cooking and less social BS.


We could prop up Julia (a la weekend at Bernie's style)....

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