Top 5 favorite grower champs. Go!

This does raise the question of what happened when Rene Collard, the man, stopped making wine. 

Back to non-defunct (presumably) producers-

Paul Dethune is another favorite.

and Michel Arnould 

I have liked Cedric Bouchard and Chartogne-Talliet, don’t think I’ve had the others you listed.

I like Paul Bara a lot.

Honorable Mentions

Launois I’ve enjoyed.  Sometimes quite a bit.

I have a soft spot for Gimmonet, but that is somewhat because it is the first one I really got in to.

 

Outside of Selosse and Vilmart (thought they belonged to the same category as Krug), I haven't had too many grower Champagnes.  

What do you like about them?  Do you treat them like still wine?  Do you like them with some age?  Or do they not really change?

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Outside of Selosse and Vilmart (thought they belonged to the same category as Krug), I haven't had too many grower Champagnes.  

What do you like about them?  Do you treat them like still wine?  Do you like them with some age?  Or do they not really change?

I hope you realized that I have opened north of 8 grower champagnes for you =) 

 

my list

j lasalle

jacques lassaigne

savart

bouchard

ulysse collin

g-man posted:
doubled posted:

Outside of Selosse and Vilmart (thought they belonged to the same category as Krug), I haven't had too many grower Champagnes.  

What do you like about them?  Do you treat them like still wine?  Do you like them with some age?  Or do they not really change?

I hope you realized that I have opened north of 8 grower champagnes for you =) 

 

my list

j lasalle

jacques lassaigne

savart

bouchard

ulysse collin

Must be the other DoubleD, or grower champagnes don't do it for me.  At those price points (I assume they are mostly $100), a good white Burg has more complexity.

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g-man posted:
doubled posted:

Outside of Selosse and Vilmart (thought they belonged to the same category as Krug), I haven't had too many grower Champagnes.  

What do you like about them?  Do you treat them like still wine?  Do you like them with some age?  Or do they not really change?

I hope you realized that I have opened north of 8 grower champagnes for you =) 

 

my list

j lasalle

jacques lassaigne

savart

bouchard

ulysse collin

Must be the other DoubleD, or grower champagnes don't do it for me.  At those price points (I assume they are mostly $100), a good white Burg has more complexity.

30-70$ mostly.

we popped like 4 of them during one of our fish eggs tasting and one of those near xmas tastings.  I usually will have 2-4 grower champers opened.

Tho to be fair, you might have been napping on the couch =D

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Outside of Selosse and Vilmart (thought they belonged to the same category as Krug), I haven't had too many grower Champagnes.  

What do you like about them?  Do you treat them like still wine?  Do you like them with some age?  Or do they not really change?

For me, they represent a different iteration of champagne, one with much more flexibility and innovation than what the Grand Marques produce. No knock against the GMs, their tete de cuvees are the landmark examples of Champagne, but their offerings are more uniform than not. 

While I haven't had many growers with more than 20 years on them, I think they tend to make fresher, earlier-drinking champagnes as well compared to something like Dom P or Krug that need at least 20 years. Most of them are delicious right out the gate and are drinking great at the 5-15 year mark, much younger.

The $30-75 price range is also a strength for growers. You can find some great vintage or prestige cuvees there where you usually get a pretty basic and fairly sweet example from a GM.

Also Roses from growers tend to not have automatic 30% price increases that the GMs will charge. 

Lastly, there are some pretty unique expressions of champagne that will get blended away with the GMs. For example, Cedric Bouchard makes a 100% Pinot Blanc from La Boloree or Mousse and Prevost's 100% Pinot Meunier examples, or Duval-Leroy's 100% Petit Meuslier. 

So, TLDR:

1) Drink better young

2) Better QPR sub $75

3) Cheap roses

4) More unique offerings

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