Damn straight Ozarks, pretty much anything west of Columbia blows. My wife is from the great metropolis of Topeka, at least she is a K-State grad and not KU. I of course showed her the article yesterday. It's always a GREAT time visiting with all the relatives. First time I met my future grandmother-in-law, she looked at me and said "Missouri?, we don't like them Missouri boys around here." Ehh, nice to meet you too grandma. She has since softened her stance for at least one Missouri boy. How 'bout them Tigers!!
Snipes: My wife is from Wichita. My father (a proud descendant of Confederate border warriors) told her the only reason he would permit it is that her family had the good sense to move to Alabama. He told my sister that he didn't have any problem with her attending the University of Kansas - as long as she never plans to come back home, or ask for money, or call. It's all in good fun.

VT: We don't have syrup as our claim to fame, if that's what you mean. (I can't believe I'm taking sh*t about my State from a Vermontite, er... Vermontian, er Vermon, ... oh whatever you are). You're the inverted New Hamshire on the map, right?
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Come on now Ozarks they call it fly over country for a reason. And even your most famous resident Jed Clampett left town. Big Grin
Wow, a Missouri vs. Vermont skirmish. Ease off you two, the only two states with legit. bragging rights IMO are California and New York. Another ten states are fighting to sit at the kids' table. Vermont and Missouri (and Indiana) haven't even been invited to dinner. Don't kid yourselves.
Quite down Bob, you're in fly over country also you know. Razz Nobody goes to Indiana on vacation, although I guess some people actually do go to Branson, Missouri. Eek
Wow. I've been gone for a couple of days and look at the fun I missed!

Being a transplant from Colorado (albeit, going on 25 years now), I can't quite bring myself to defend Missouri -- particularly against Vermont, which is arguably the second most scenic state (behind Colorado, of course). However, poking fun of stupid flatlanders is another matter entirely! Big Grin
All in fun Sharkey, although I don't see how Indybob ranks New York as one of the top two states. Nobody is more hated around here than New Yorkers. Of course through no fault of my own I was born in Yonkers. Red Face
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Quite down Bob, you're in fly over country also you know. Razz Nobody goes to Indiana on vacation, although I guess some people actually do go to Branson, Missouri. Eek


YES!!! You're missing my point. I don't defend Indiana at all, to anybody, except maybe folks who say they make better deep-fried State Fair than Hoosiers do.

California and New York are mom and dad. Texas, Illinois, Florida (well, south Florida), Colorado, and a few others are the children. Missouri, Vermont, Indiana, and most others are the crazy uncle/aunt who shows up, uninvited at Thanksgiving and proceeds to get drunk and make passes at your husband or wife. Know your place in the pecking order Vermont and Missouri!
VT2IT,

The reason I slot New York in with California is simple. Nine out of ten times I tell Hoosiers I'm from California, they say "Why did you move here?" My friends from New York all say the same thing. They are the only two states that routinely get that sort of incredulous comment from residents in the second and third tier states.
Just because New Yorkers think the world revolves around them (and trust me they do) does not make it so. As I always tell them, "you come here for vacation, meaning this is where you would rather be if you could".
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Nine out of ten times I tell Hoosiers I'm from California, they say "Why did you move here?" My friends from New York all say the same thing. They are the only two states that routinely get that sort of incredulous comment from residents in the second and third tier states.


I get that response all the time when I tell people that I grew up in Colorado. Now, when I tell them that I was born in West Virginia, they fully understand why I don't live there. Razz
Confused Is there some sort of "New Yorkers are prohibited from moving to Vermont!" law on the books? I sometimes go to Mexico on vacation, doesn't mean I want to move there.

Sharkey---Exactly! Colorado is a top rung state, worthy of envy from most. West Virginia on the other hand. . .whew! That is one of the only states that someone who lives in Indiana can legitimately clown on.
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Confused Is there some sort of "New Yorkers are prohibited from moving to Vermont!" law on the books? I sometimes go to Mexico on vacation, doesn't mean I want to move there.

Sharkey---Exactly! Colorado is a top rung state, worthy of envy from most. West Virginia on the other hand. . .whew! That is one of the only states that someone who lives in Indiana can legitimately clown on.
Bob, many of them do, the rest are still trying to figure out a way to make a living here. Trust me, nobody may understand you living in the midwest, but they do not question moving to some place like Vt. And I would much rather be in West Virginia than Indiana. Mountains and forests vs cornfields and strip malls - no contest.
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Indy at least you don't live in Kansas!


Sad thing is, I was born there! Eek
Wow. This thread turned pretty entertaining while I was away.

New York, and California are fine as destinations to visit, but the politics and culture of the coasts just doesn't suit this redneck. I'll stick with my 4x4, guns and religion as a lifestyle.
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Originally posted by Ozarks21:
I'll stick with my 4x4, guns and religion as a lifestyle.

Eek and the love of fine wine fits into this scenario where? Big Grin
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Originally posted by VT2IT:
Quite down Bob, you're in fly over country also you know. Razz Nobody goes to Indiana on vacation, although I guess some people actually do go to Branson, Missouri. Eek


YES!!! You're missing my point. I don't defend Indiana at all, to anybody, except maybe folks who say they make better deep-fried State Fair than Hoosiers do.

California and New York are mom and dad. Texas, Illinois, Florida (well, south Florida), Colorado, and a few others are the children. Missouri, Vermont, Indiana, and most others are the crazy uncle/aunt who shows up, uninvited at Thanksgiving and proceeds to get drunk and make passes at your husband or wife. Know your place in the pecking order Vermont and Missouri!


Speak for yourself...South Florida is the canker sore of Florida...and how does Illinois outside of Chicago and the state of Colorado even enter the discussion if you only include South Florida? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

And where pray tell is Texas?
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Originally posted by Ozarks21:
I'll stick with my 4x4, guns and religion as a lifestyle.

Eek and the love of fine wine fits into this scenario where? Big Grin


If you have to ask the question you truly will never understand!
California is full of scenic beauty. It should be the best state in the country to live in, but it is far from it, in my opinion. Other than Illinois and Louisiana, it has the most corrupt State government in the union. The public employee unions run the state with the aid of the whores in the senate and assembly. Watch it all collapse over the next 20 years when the lavish pension obligations for all the government workers come due. It's starting to happen in some cities already. The socialists in the assembly and senate will raise taxes on business and individuals and the businesses wil leave.

Many of the cities were among the finest in the world at one time, most notably San Francisco. It is now a freakshow with a perpetual odor of urine and feces from the bums who live there. Los Angeles has some posh suburbs, but it is a dump as well.
LA a dump as well? LA has been a dump since the day I took my first breath!! And I'm no spring chicken!

Not to mention they serve CA orange juice in LA hotels, which is disgusting. I finally trained the hotel staff to not bring undrinkable swill to my breakfast table.
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Not to mention they serve CA orange juice in LA hotels, which is disgusting. I finally trained the hotel staff to not bring undrinkable swill to my breakfast table.


I don't really know for sure, but an economic decision perhaps? Probably cheaper to get California juice to California than it would be to get the better Florida juice there. Do they serve Florida navel oranges at your hotels (presumably in Florida), or the superior California ones?

cdr, wow buddy, just wow! I talk a lot of crap about Indiana, but I really like the people here, and I love my job/co-workers. But, you live in Berkeley!!! May as well go for broke and move to Arcata. If you hate it so much in California, there are a LOT of towns in the mid-west, or The South that would seem like conservative nirvana to you. Heck, stay in California and head to Calaveras County (just kidding angry Calaveras guy! Wink ). . .
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Indy,

I do not live in Berkeley. In fact, I no longer live in California full time. I left because the government is corrupt and inneffective and appeals to the lowest common denominator, as most collectivist institutions do. I would live in Indiana in a heartbeat if the winters were not so severe. I hate cold weather.
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I hate cold weather.

Speaking of that, when are you coming for a visit in Montreal, cdr???
There was talk of an offline in your honor several months back. Smile
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Originally posted by cdr:
California is full of scenic beauty. It should be the best state in the country to live in, but it is far from it, in my opinion. Other than Illinois and Louisiana, it has the most corrupt State government in the union. The public employee unions run the state with the aid of the whores in the senate and assembly. Watch it all collapse over the next 20 years when the lavish pension obligations for all the government workers come due. It's starting to happen in some cities already. The socialists in the assembly and senate will raise taxes on business and individuals and the businesses wil leave.

Many of the cities were among the finest in the world at one time, most notably San Francisco. It is now a freakshow with a perpetual odor of urine and feces from the bums who live there. Los Angeles has some posh suburbs, but it is a dump as well.


I am thinking about moving to Vermont, Maine or Hawaii. In regards to my profession, the system is out of control.
I've been to a bunch of states, but haven't been to Vermont, Maine, or Hawaii yet. Y'all know I kid around a lot. There are great parts of any state in the union (even Indiana). If you're happy where you are, that's reason enough to stay.
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Originally posted by Ozarks21:
I'll stick with my 4x4, guns and religion as a lifestyle.

Eek and the love of fine wine fits into this scenario where? Big Grin


I take wine to the woods on Sundays.

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