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Former Miami head coach, Brian Flores, has sued the NFL and certain teams over race discrimination in hiring.  Here is a link to a story on this:
It is the allegation of Coach Flores that he was not considered for a new coaching position because of his race.  While the teams followed the “Rooney Rule” of interviewing a minority applicant, he alleges that they did so as a sham, only to comply with the Rooney Rule, with no intention of seriously considering a minority coach.  They made up their minds, so the claim goes, to hire a white person.
Meanwhile, President Biden has said that he will appoint a Black woman to the S. Ct.  He won’t consider applicants of other races or gender.
Of course, there is a large difference here.  Coach Flores, in his prior position as head coach of the Dolphins, is said to have made $3 million per year. https://celebsaga.com/coach-br...orth-how-rich-is-he/.  On the other hand, an associate justice on the US Supreme Court makes only around $270,000.  https://www.ibtimes.com/us-sup...rns-annually-3168814
Another key difference.  Since NFL games are played outside (with the limited exception of domed stadiums), sometimes a head coach has to stand in the rain or snow for 3 hours to perform that portion of his job.  The Supreme court does its work indoors, with heat, air conditioning, and a roof.
Moreover, arguably, a position on the Supreme Court comes with a tad more power than that of a head coach in the NFL.  Like some NFL games, some S. Ct. cases are close (5-4), but they are not decided on a coin flip, and they rarely go into overtime.
Meanwhile, the S. Ct. is considering two cases where it is alleged that college admissions people gave some preferential treatment to minorities, thereby hurting the chances of Whites or Asians to be admitted to their programs.
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@The Old Man posted:

As a lawyer I'm assuming you know another key difference is that the president of the United States does not hire anyone to become a Justice of the Supreme Court. He nominates and the Senate either confirms or rejects the candidate.  Very different situation than your football example.

I had no idea that the President nominated these folks! What a revelation! That is amazing new info, T.O.Man.

@The Old Man posted:

As a lawyer I'm assuming you know another key difference is that the president of the United States does not hire anyone to become a Justice of the Supreme Court. He nominates and the Senate either confirms or rejects the candidate.  Very different situation than your football example.

Hmmm, I knew this. Maybe I missed my calling as an American Lawyer.

@The Old Man posted:

This is not on me. You start a new thread. You bring up an easily debunked point, one that frankly I was surprised came from a lawyer, and you were called out on it. Instead of simply saying "I stand corrected", (something which I swear to God only I appear to be able to do in this forum) you replied with silliness.

I used to think you were just ridiculous.

Then a number of people pointed out that you’re just a dick.

I stand corrected. 😎

@The Old Man posted:

That's all very nice, but can anyone here deal with the actual issue? A lawyer, a long time lawyer, makes a comparison as certainly any lawyer knows, is "just ridiculous." The only place I know of this absurdity coming from is right wing media. Can anyone tell me why he bothered? (He won't say.) Was it a joke? Did he forget that it's not a job? I don't really don't get it. But name-calling, that I get.

Oh, no, no, no, TOM. The issue here is that you have sworn to God that you are the only person here who appears able to write “I stand corrected.” That is the issue— please do not continue to try to deflect from it— and I am quite confident that I have irrevocably proven that, despite invoking God’s validation of your statement, it is simply untrue.

Under the circumstances, and given how forcefully you claim that this untruth is true, I find that I must now question the veracity of all your comments. How can anyone believe you? Do you even live in California? Have you ever even watched a movie? (Like others, I thought for a while that you might have seen a few movies, but now I stand corrected.)

Making false grandiose claims doesn’t really do you much good. It might be a slippery slope that separates you ever further from the truth. Perhaps it’s time to rethink your position on a lot of issues.

TOM:  calm down.
It wasn’t a joke but it was an attempt at some humor.  The comment that the nfl coaches stand in the rain while the s.ct cases are inside…. Maybe not humor that appeals to you, maybe a poor attempt… but obviously not a serious comment.  The statement that Supreme Court cases don’t go into overtime…. The same. Not a joke, but an attempt at humor.  

if I were on a stage at a nightclub and said this, people might laugh or perhaps not. Jay Leno I am not.

But you are so wound up, tight as a drum, that you read the original post and immediately attack me and say that as a lawyer I ought to know the appointment process?   Really?    This demonstrates one of the issues with email and a forum like this—- one cannot type inflection.
oh well.  
Calm down, buddy.  My attempt at humor didn’t work with you.  Sorry about that.  

no need to apologize.  The "send" button is very powerful, and sometimes misused--hit too early--by me.  I think Bill Belichik hit the send button a bit too early recently.  We've all been guilty of that.

“Four things come not back: the spoken word; the sped arrow; time past; the neglected opportunity.” - From Omar Ibn Al-Halif.  (Al-Hajj Omar ibn Said Tal (ca. 1797-1864) was a West African Moslem leader who started a holy war and established a far-reaching empire on the Upper Niger).

To his wise aphorism we could add:  The sent email.  (And maybe, since we are wine geeks, we could add -  the spilled First Growth).

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@irwin posted:

TOM:  calm down.
It wasn’t a joke but it was an attempt at some humor.  The comment that the nfl coaches stand in the rain while the s.ct cases are inside…. Maybe not humor that appeals to you, maybe a poor attempt… but obviously not a serious comment.  The statement that Supreme Court cases don’t go into overtime…. The same. Not a joke, but an attempt at humor.  

if I were on a stage at a nightclub and said this, people might laugh or perhaps not. Jay Leno I am not.

But you are so wound up, tight as a drum, that you read the original post and immediately attack me and say that as a lawyer I ought to know the appointment process?   Really?    This demonstrates one of the issues with email and a forum like this—- one cannot type inflection.
oh well.  
Calm down, buddy.  My attempt at humor didn’t work with you.  Sorry about that.  

A 50-year-old lawyer who had been practicing since he was 25 passed away and arrived at the Pearly Gates for judgment. The lawyer said to St. Peter, “There must be some mistake! I’m only 50 years old, that’s far too young to die.” St. Peter frowned and consulted his book. “That’s funny, when we add up your billing records, you should be at least 83 by now!”

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