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Game of Thrones successfully made the ugly step-child of science fiction, fantasy, popular with the general public. Before GoT the most popular of the genre would be, Xena: Warrior Princess. There aren't really too many major TV productions of this genre, and none of them  with the depth of story telling and production of GoT. Another popular show, which I don't watch is, Outlander. You might want to try that.

So I'm going to recommend the greatest mini-series of all time--I, Claudius. It has much of what made GoT great: palace intrigue, sex, incest, backstabbing, murders etc.  However the production values are extremely low. It's the writing and the great acting--from the likes of Derek Jacobi, John Hurt, Siam Phillips and even Patrick Stewart--that make it special. In a medieval vein, but without the fantasy element, is The Pillars of the Earth, which is quite good.

+1 on Rome

I couldn't get into The Pillars of the Earth. Something about the directing just felt off to me. 

Funny, when I read this thread the first series I thought of was I, Claudius but I didn't post because I figured the OP wouldn't enjoy it because of the dated production values. Can't beat the storytelling and the cast, though.

@Rothko posted:

Anybody watching House of the Dragon?  Thoughts?

The first episode was brutal. Too brutal if it would be like that all season. But it also did a great job setting up each character and his (or her) personality and motivations. The second episode was a blast with all the palace intrigue I loved from GOT. What the show is missing — if anything — is Peter Dinklage or, in his absence, a purely interesting, clever, likable character.  One may emerge, and such a character may prove unnecessary, but I do feel the absence of a Tyrion-like character.

@winetarelli posted:

Watched Ep 1 of Rings of Power. I’ve seen snails move faster. Sleeping snails. I’ll stick with it for a little while — it’s beautiful and I like Galadriel. But it’s going to need to improve to have me as a devoted watcher.

yea I get the world building via dialogue but geez, you're a tv show, just pan out, no need to actually talk about the world, that's what the books are for.

Also alot of the dialogue is needlessly wordy or repetitious in english.  We were already alerted of an event 5 sentences ago, no need to repeat it again.

I hope alot more of the actual plot picks up but the production / costumes and sets look incredibly beautiful

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@g-man posted:

yea I get the world building via dialogue but geez, you're a tv show, just pan out, no need to actually talk about the world, that's what the books are for.

Also alot of the dialogue is needlessly wordy or repetitious in english.  We were already alerted of an event 5 sentences ago, no need to repeat it again.

I hope alot more of the actual plot picks up but the production / costumes and sets look incredibly beautiful

Agreed entirely. The dialogue was onerous throughout and genuinely painful at times. But there’s so much potential in the overall production design that I’ll watch a bit more in the hopes that it picks up and improves.

@winetarelli posted:

Agreed entirely. The dialogue was onerous throughout and genuinely painful at times. But there’s so much potential in the overall production design that I’ll watch a bit more in the hopes that it picks up and improves.

3rd episode did not save.

this is now more like .. how do we blow 1 billion dollars on sets and productions, everyone knows the story, we dont need to tell it or you know have a plot.

@winetarelli posted:

The first episode was brutal. Too brutal if it would be like that all season. But it also did a great job setting up each character and his (or her) personality and motivations. The second episode was a blast with all the palace intrigue I loved from GOT. What the show is missing — if anything — is Peter Dinklage or, in his absence, a purely interesting, clever, likable character.  One may emerge, and such a character may prove unnecessary, but I do feel the absence of a Tyrion-like character.

I take back my original view after episode 1 that it was pretty good with promise.  I have read the material and find the show simply boring.  I do not really care about any of the characters and other than Matt Smith's Daemon- the whole show is dull and does not have me invested.  As someone who has read the books multiple times, has the coffee table encyclopedia which was the first source of this material, this indicates to me they have fudged this up.  I am trying to decide whether to waste any more time trying to watch it

So after 5 episodes of Rings of Power I am still trying to care about any of the plot lines.  I hate the Harfoots (do they really have to wear weeds, twigs, and grasses in their hair like that???) and Amnesia Gandalf; I am rolling my eyes at Warrior Galadriel; I don't care about the Elf and the Healer love story.  I am pretty much only interested in the Dwarves and Khazad-dum at this point - although the Balrog isn't supposed to be awakened until the Third Age but I suspect we are going to see him in this series instead.

House of the Dragon has been better, but I am reaching for a character that isn't despicable at this point.  And believe it or not, the answer I have is Daemon, who was the total bad guy in the first episode.  It's turning out he's better than the rest of them.

@Rothko posted:

So after 5 episodes of Rings of Power I am still trying to care about any of the plot lines.  I hate the Harfoots (do they really have to wear weeds, twigs, and grasses in their hair like that???) and Amnesia Gandalf; I am rolling my eyes at Warrior Galadriel; I don't care about the Elf and the Healer love story.  I am pretty much only interested in the Dwarves and Khazad-dum at this point - although the Balrog isn't supposed to be awakened until the Third Age but I suspect we are going to see him in this series instead.

House of the Dragon has been better, but I am reaching for a character that isn't despicable at this point.  And believe it or not, the answer I have is Daemon, who was the total bad guy in the first episode.  It's turning out he's better than the rest of them.

yea i fell asleep watchign the 5 th episode and still haven't rewatched it to see what's going on.

i get multiple arcs in the story as the writings were a bunch of collection of thoughts and ideas, but 5 episodes in, why arent we seeing more about the building of the forge.

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