Stemware

This is not a debate on whether a glass changes the taste, but rather which do you prefer.

I have been using, and my wife has been breaking Riedel all year now. I did just purchase 2 Baccarat and love them. I do think they are over priced. WineDoc turned me on to Rosso Amarone. I have also read good things about Zalto.

For those of you that have used both of these which do you prefer? The Rosso Amarone or the Zalto
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Sorry, I should have mentionned that the SZ Forte line are the almost break-proof stems. They have good lines and are thin enough that you don't think you're drinking out of a jar... Smile

At $12 or so a pop, they are very good daily stems. Nothing elegant, mind you....

PH
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Lenox Tuscany Series are the best glasses I've ever found that are decently priced. They're virtual clones of the $85 Riedel Somm series, but at $10 frequently on sale in Macy's.


I bought 4 of their Bordeaux Somm clones many years back at your recommendation, Board-O. I still haven't killed one! I like to use them for big Bordeaux.

PH
Their Grand Burgundy stems are great, but for some reason, Lenox discontinued them. They might still be available at some of their outlet stores. Someone, I believe it was Rothko, said something like, "How ironic that Lenox cancelled one of the best wine glasses made."
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Lenox Tuscany Series are the best glasses I've ever found that are decently priced. They're virtual clones of the $85 Riedel Somm series, but at $10 frequently on sale in Macy's.


Agree on the shape of the stems on your comparison, B-O. I think the glass on the Lennox stems is significantly thicker, though. Not that this is a bad thing, especially if your spouse is killing crystal.... Wink

PH
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Clrv:


and my wife has been breaking Riedel all year now. o


Only wash the morning after. Wink


I think this suggestion is among the top 10 pieces of wisdom I've garnered from this place. Cool

PH


Care to name the other 9? Banana
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Care to name the other 9? Banana


It's a really good thought. It would take more time than I can devote tonight, but it'll be fun to think of what they could be.

One more for now. Follow the progression of your wine from very first pour. You never know what you'll miss. It may sound simplistic, but I've over-aired wines and gotten to them too late more times than I'd like to admit. I've never regretted tasting one early.

PH
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Well, I'm not going to pull them out now, but they're close, not identical. Have you ever found anything closer to Riedel Somms?


Not in shape. I haven't found any clone that so closely appromiximates the lines of the Sommelier Series. One of the appeals to many, and to me the biggest downfall of the Somm is their thinness. I've killed two of my four Bordeaux stems. And I washed them stone sober. Bang

PH
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Only wash the morning after. Wink

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Originally posted by Board-O:
Care to name the other 9? Banana


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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
It's a really good thought. It would take more time than I can devote tonight, but it'll be fun to think of what they could be.

One more for now. Follow the progression of your wine from very first pour. You never know what you'll miss. It may sound simplistic, but I've over-aired wines and gotten to them too late more times than I'd like to admit. I've never regretted tasting one early.

PH


Maybe the other 8 should be on a whole other thread as I would like to know them as well Smile

Thanks for the advise!
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Follow the progression of your wine from very first pour. You never know what you'll miss. It may sound simplistic, but I've over-aired wines and gotten to them too late more times than I'd like to admit. I've never regretted tasting one early.
PH


Good advice. Over-airing hasn't been a problem for me. Sometimes not enough air time has been. Years ago, along with an order, a manager of a wine store gave me a 1955 Premier Cru Burgundy with 1/3 of the wine missing. The bottle hadn't been opened or leaked, just was only 2/3 full. A friend ITB and I opened it, tasted it immediately and was good, not great. Within ten minutes, it was dead.
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Originally posted by Clrv:
TPE I might have to try the Somms then. I have only had the Vinum with no luck. Even the day after Wink

Wait until you can pick em up on sale... We bought em from Macy's for about $70 each, which is about $50 less than their regular price. Breaking one at $70 would hurt... At $125 it really sucks.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Clrv:


and my wife has been breaking Riedel all year now. o


Only wash the morning after. Wink


+1 on the day after. I do this with eager but tipsy guests.

Other tip is to look at technique vs the glass. Buy a couple of Riedel microfibre towels and read the directions - very helpful, no lint or fingerprints also.
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
Buy a couple of Riedel microfibre towels and read the directions - very helpful, no lint or fingerprints also.

I use only Spiegel silken towels to dry (an extremely helpful tip I got from PH one weekend I was visiting). Your stems come out sparkling every time with a minimum of effort.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
Buy a couple of Riedel microfibre towels and read the directions - very helpful, no lint or fingerprints also.

I use only Spiegel silken towels to dry (an extremely helpful tip I got from PH one weekend I was visiting). Your stems come out sparkling every time with a minimum of effort.


Good tip thanks... I have a few Sonoma towels that work well.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
Buy a couple of Riedel microfibre towels and read the directions - very helpful, no lint or fingerprints also.

I use only Spiegel silken towels to dry (an extremely helpful tip I got from PH one weekend I was visiting). Your stems come out sparkling every time with a minimum of effort.

Will seek these out... Thanks for the tip.
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
Buy a couple of Riedel microfibre towels and read the directions - very helpful, no lint or fingerprints also.

I use only Spiegel silken towels to dry (an extremely helpful tip I got from PH one weekend I was visiting). Your stems come out sparkling every time with a minimum of effort.

Will seek these out... Thanks for the tip.


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I usually use Riedel - Vinum, Vinum Extreme, and those stemless ones. I do all of the wine glass washing, so very few breaks.

I was gifted a variety of stems from the Ravenscroft invisibles collection. Indeed they are so whisper light and elegant, but they break if you cough on them.
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Originally posted by Wine doc:
I was gifted a variety of stems from the Ravenscroft invisibles collection. Indeed they are so whisper light and elegant, but they break if you cough on them.


I have some of the Ravenscroft Sauternes - very nice and less than half the price of Riedel Vinum Extreme Icewine, the other dessert stems that I use.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:

One more for now. Follow the progression of your wine from very first pour. You never know what you'll miss. It may sound simplistic, but I've over-aired wines and gotten to them too late more times than I'd like to admit. I've never regretted tasting one early.

PH

I agree 100%. This past weekend I popped an Ornellaia and after it aired for 10 hours and decanted at the restaurant. Stemware does make a huge differenc as the Galatrona that we started with was poured into small stems and it was difficult to get a full appreciation and the wine showed little progression over the 2 hours. The Ornellaia was poured into large Riedels and improved and opened over the same time.
I prefer the glassware that comes with Smuckers jam. Indestrucatble. Fit the hand. Free with purchase of product. Fits the dishwasher and best of all have never broken one. Big Grin

For special occassion I do break out the Vinum or Somms. Only broke 3 in 10 years.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Their Grand Burgundy stems are great, but for some reason, Lenox discontinued them. They might still be available at some of their outlet stores. Someone, I believe it was Rothko, said something like, "How ironic that Lenox cancelled one of the best wine glasses made."


Fortunately I got my hands on a bunch of the Grand Burgundy glasses before they were discontinued.

Used them last night, in fact.
We have a couple of the Riedel grand burgundy somm stems and while they are beautiful, they are just too big. I feel the wines I like to drink get to much air in those stems and the aromas are hard to get which is half of the enjoyment for me.

For Bordeaux , Brunello and Rhone varietals we use the riedel vinum Bordeaux glasses. Have not broken one yet and really enjoy the shape and size. For pinot, fuller whites like white burg and rhones and nebbiolo my favorite stem is a Schott Zwiesel Burgundy glass. They have a couple of styles, but the one I have has a really nice rounded bowl that is great to look and works really well for the wines I drink. For other whites like Riesling, champagne, loire whites, etc I use a smaller red wine glass that I picked up years ago at crate and barrel. Perfect size for those crisp whites we drink often.
Our daily use glasses have been Riedel Vinum XL (Cab Sauv and Pinot Noir) for years and we haven't broken one yet. I think they're a bit smaller than the Grand Burgundys but a bit larger than the regular Vinums.

While it may be Riedel sacrilege to say, we find these two styles suffice for any reds we drink.

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