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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
I my younger days I ran a lot. Now my knees are nothing but bone on bone. I still walk a lot, but no more running!

We used to do five miles every morning in my old Ranger unit. Five miles in thirty five minutes in combat boots, the old Ranger Run much faster than double time. Personal best was the 2 mile in !0:58 in combat boots. I think they let most all of the run in sneakers now. Hard on the feet and knees. Imagine that! Confused

Seven-minute miles in combat boots?! My lungs hurt just reading that!
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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
I my younger days I ran a lot. Now my knees are nothing but bone on bone. I still walk a lot, but no more running!

We used to do five miles every morning in my old Ranger unit. Five miles in thirty five minutes in combat boots, the old Ranger Run much faster than double time. Personal best was the 2 mile in !0:58 in combat boots. I think they let most all of the run in sneakers now. Hard on the feet and knees. Imagine that! Confused


Not to take anything away from your accomplishment, Sandy (because it's damn impressive!), but I was at Ironman Kona this year and a Marine did the entire 112-mile bike portion and the 26.2-mile run portion in camouflage pants and boots. I only saw him during the first part of the marathon but he looked amazingly strong, especially after riding 112 miles wearing what is definitely not triathlon-specific clothing.

Found an article here...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/health/fitness/20081...9999-1s17conner.html

... that you might be interested in seeing.
Up until about 3 years ago, I was a regular runner. I've run one marathon and 2 halves plus a bunch of 5 and 10k's. Marathon time was 4:25:00 and I had set a goal to break 4 hours on my next one.

Then I found out I had heart issues (nothing to do with running) which caused my doctor to order me to run no more marathons. I stopped running for 3 years because I was afraid.

But running has always made me feel wonderful - at least after I get to a level of fitness that gives me the endurance, fitness and core strength to actually enjoy it.

So I have begun again. Started in early January and had some pretty rough runs. Couldn't do 2k without walking. But I'm up to about 6k continuous distance now. It still feels rough, but getting there. I hope to get fit enough to run 10 miles (16k) a day 3X / week and 5 miles 3X / week and I'll probably hold there.

About the IPod: I almost never, ever used one during my 60 miles a week marathon training. But my wife, who has continued to run and had run every race with me, convinced me to try. Like someone else said, music always threw me off. The beat was always different from the step, the breathing, everything. But I figured it out and now I really like it.
Star/et.al. - The military actually banned walkman type instruments while running on posts back in the 80s. Seems people were getting so engrossed in the music, along with not being able to hear outside noise, they were getting hit by cars/trucks, unnecessarily stepping in ruts, etc. and getting hurt. The military is big on corporate punishiment, but as a warning be careful.

Kind of like all the people on cellphones while driving, or the cyclist the other day that swerved to miss a pot hole in the bike lane and came out and almost hit me. He was listening to his walkman, and couldn't even hear me along side of him. Safety first! Wink
i learned my lesson while hiking/running down the side of a santa monica "mountain" while blasting slayer. i still have the scars.

i would not run/bike/hike in the woods/on the street/in a park with anything blocking my awareness of my surroundings.

stumbling home hammered, now that's a different story. Razz
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i would not run/bike/hike in the woods/on the street/in a park with anything blocking my awareness of my surroundings.

stumbling home hammered, now that's a different story.


In New York that is most certainly true. Stranger people jogging in central park in the afternoon than stumbling on curbs drunk at 2:am. Smile

Pure gym track runner since November. I can't run in the cold. Tough to zone out. All I can think of is "#uck! - it's cold and I'm running, when I'd rather be ________ (fill in blank of choice)

Rather sweat and look at gym hotties over the winter.

Down 20 pounds since last winter and with my appetite that means I'm running a lot! Smile
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OK, a bit off topic here, but I played tennis for nearly two hours yesterday. The difference in quick vertical and lateral stop/start running vs. constant motion is glaring. Let's just say that my feet, knees, and joints are feeling it today.


Well the "2 hours" part had something to do it. Run for 2 hours and see how you feel. Tennis for 30 minutes is a joke. Running for 30 minutes is NO joke.

Teasing, but I played basketball all my life and yes the stopping, side movements effect you, but you do get your breaks. All I can say is running for 45 minutes or an hour straight is harder for me than even 2 hours of stop and go basketball. Everyone's different.
Ah Hunter, you must still be young. I think my basketball and tennis playing was much harder on my knees than my running.

When running I could lay into a seven minute, six minute until my mid 30's, mile and do that without mcuh change of heartbeat throughout. I would always sprint the last 200 yards to change things up. I believe my heartbeat underwent a lot more push during the constant sprints, jumping, stretching, and motions of bball and tennis than plain running. But perhaps that's because I was in good shape!
Sitting here watching my wife stretch after her quick little 13 mile run is making me sore. Wink

Speaking of basketball. I played in the City "A" league until I was 31. I landed on a players foot after the last dunk of my career ( Smile) and broke my right foot in over a dozen places. Never played in a competitive league again.

I later broke the same foot in the simi-finals of our state racquetball tournament. Mad

I have found wine drinking much safer.
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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
When running I could lay into a seven minute, six minute until my mid 30's, mile and do that without mcuh change of heartbeat throughout. I would always sprint the last 200 yards to change things up.


6 minute mile? That is a sprint! At least in my world.

re: tennis. The quality of the workout is usually a function of the quality of the opponent. When playing with a lesser player, the only way to get a workout is to play with one can of balls and run after the strays.....

PH
I run about 20/25 miles a week. I have run a marathon and a dozen half marathons. I run at a sub 8 minute pace. Always have. This year a bunch of us are running the Ragnar Relay - a 12 person 200 mile race in the Wassatch mountains.

Truth is I hate running. But I love finishing!

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