Shipping wine in the heat

We are going to Watertown NY for a couple of days and normally would have some wine shipped from White Plains, however, we're wondering if it is wise given the current heat wave. FedEx says the wine will ship in a day but it has been a couple of days in the past.  The bottles would be in a Styrofoam shipper. Bottles would be sauternes, champagne, chardonnay and/or some reds.  We've shipped wine similar distances, or longer, in the past when it's been warm, without a problem, but not when it's this hot. 

What says the WSF hive?  Any of the above-mentioned bottles more likely to take the heat than others?

 

 

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napacat posted:

Fed ex has cold storage shipments.

I looked into that but it's hugely expensive.  Since I'm already paying a 30% premium on the exchange rate and possibly 55% in tax and duty on some bottles, I'm not up for a similar cost add-on for a cold storage shipment.  But it's only a day on the road and that is likely to be overnight so I'm going for it!

Pack the wine in styrofoam with cold gel packs straight from the freezer. I've received wine orders from at least one winery that way and it was cold when it arrived 2 days later. You could duct tape the seam of the styrofoam air tight so hot air can't get in and shorten the life of the gel packs.

Bman, if you ship wine into Ontario unaccompanied, the duty rate is different.

If you accompany the wine (by car, plane, train) the rate is approx 39% plus HST, for a total of 52%. 

If you ship it unaccompanied, the duty rate is 102.2% plus HST. Really, really not worth it. 

Thanks for the replies.  To clarify, we are going to States, so cross-border shipping is not an issue.  And the wine storage facility in White Plains is shipping the bottles so how they are shipped is out of my control, though I know they will be shipped in a purpose-built Styrofoam wine shipper.

We shipped wine from India and Pakistan that travelled for weeks on a container ship through some pretty hot places and most of it seemed fine, though those bottles were all cheapies and some ports.

sunnylea57 posted:

Bman, I'm probably missing something here. You're traveling to the US, buying the wine, and then having a storage facility in White Plains ship it back to you in Canada? If so, it will still be unaccompanied and you'll be hit with the 102% duty.

He's having it shipped from White Plains, NY to Watertown, NY and then driving across the border.  

csm posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Bman, I'm probably missing something here. You're traveling to the US, buying the wine, and then having a storage facility in White Plains ship it back to you in Canada? If so, it will still be unaccompanied and you'll be hit with the 102% duty.

He's having it shipped from White Plains, NY to Watertown, NY and then driving across the border.  

Thanks, CSM! Are you available to act as my full time interpreter?

csm posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Bman, I'm probably missing something here. You're traveling to the US, buying the wine, and then having a storage facility in White Plains ship it back to you in Canada? If so, it will still be unaccompanied and you'll be hit with the 102% duty.

He's having it shipped from White Plains, NY to Watertown, NY and then driving across the border.  

And they will more than likely enjoy a bottle or two while there, saving the 52% border tax on those bottles entirely .

Ok, let's start at the beginning.  I get regular - daily, actually - emails from Grapes the Wine Company in White Plains NY, owned and operated by our fellow WS Forumite, NYRetailer.  Over the past 12 years I've probably bought 10-15 mixed cases of wine from him, a bottle or two at a time.  My favourite source of great wines at great prices by far!

When mrs bman and I travel to the States for a weekend or longer, but always a minimum of 48 hours, I have some of these bottles sent to me, either directly from Grapes or from a wine storage facility they use when they are holding more than a case for me.  We go to upstate NY 2 or 3 times a year - it's a lovely part of the world, full of cool little towns, interesting back roads, etc. (and we enjoy offlining with Haggis and Mrs. Haggis!) and like most Canadians, we also  enjoy shopping expeditions, especially to Destiny USA in Syracuse and Waterloo Premium Outlets.   We also go elsewhere in the US at least once a year. 

Every time we go, we have some wine from Grapes sent in advance of our arrival to our hotel and, as Bytown Rick noted, we drink as much of it as our livers can stand (usually in our room with take out - Texas Roadhouse steaks are a favourite - or what we call a hotel room picnic with provisions from Wegmans) and bring back at least 4 bottles to Canada.  Only once have we crossed the border and back in a day to collect wine and as noted, it costs way more that way than the way we do it.  In fact, it could pretty much cover the cost of the trip!

Clear as mud? 

And Sunny, since you mentioned it, why not get together with some of the TO gang and offline in Ithaca one of these days?  It's a great place from which to explore the area, the city itself is very nice and picturesque in places, and Haggis is there!  I bet he could even arrange a tour of Cornell University including the world-famous Cornell Botanic Gardens, which are well worth a visit!  We've been three times over the past few years and enjoyed it every time!

sunnylea57 posted:
csm posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Bman, I'm probably missing something here. You're traveling to the US, buying the wine, and then having a storage facility in White Plains ship it back to you in Canada? If so, it will still be unaccompanied and you'll be hit with the 102% duty.

He's having it shipped from White Plains, NY to Watertown, NY and then driving across the border.  

Thanks, CSM! Are you available to act as my full time interpreter?

Mais oui!

vincentric posted:

Wait till fall

 

Already shipped, received, and some of the bottles consumed.  All good!  Fedex did the driving overnight from White Plains to Watertown, and they were delivered the next day after a few hours in the van.  All's well that ends well!

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