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wineart 2 posted:
billhike posted:

But the stock market!

An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama. 

Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%.  Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%. 

But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years. 

 

But her emails!

Benghazi!!

Whitewater!!!

 

 

bman posted:
wineart 2 posted:
billhike posted:

But the stock market!

An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama. 

Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%.  Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%. 

But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years. 

 

But her emails!

Benghazi!!

Whitewater!!!

 

 

... and talking about the inept president and his band of fools; Mnuchin now has issued a warning that America is running out of cash far sooner than expected. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the deficit jumped 23.1% since the tax cuts have taken effect. This, plus the Republicans massive spending package will produce a record trillion dollar deficit compared to the $779 billion from a year ago per the CBO. 

Conservative fiscal hawks my ass!!!  This administration is nothing short of a kangaroo court. 

purplehaze posted:

An awful president, and an awful human (DNA test pending to confirm status, along with his promised tax returns and missing school records)  

Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant or knowledgeably awful to boot.  A pox on them all.

PH

Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant AND knowledgeably awful to boot.  A pox on them all.

Still love the Trump admin.  Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

As I said, terrible debater.  "Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! "

No, you should be on the side that calls out a man/baby president who's a racist, a bigot, and sexist, a know-nothing and a demagogue.

And lay off the teenage use of exclamation marks! I suggest reading The Elements of Style by Strunk and White before you post again and embarrass yourself.

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napacat posted:

Still love the Trump admin.  Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

Still love the Trump admin.

Which Trump administration, specifically, do you love? The one he started with, or the one with almost 20 "acting" key staffers currently  in:  DOD, Labor, Homeland Security, WH Chief of Staff, Small Business Administration, UN Ambassador, Office of Management and Budget, FAA, OSHA, FDA, CFCP, FEMA, EEOC, ICE, USCIS and CBP?  trump hasn't drained the swamp.  He's added to it with people who are likely un-confirmable, and who he can fire when they irritate him.  He can then say, "I hardly knew them," and move on to the next third rate hack who's willing to go to work for this inept dumpster fire of an administration.

It appears that the only consistent parties to this abomination of a presidency are Trump and Pence.  So, please tell me, what do you love about Trump, the pussy grabbing serial cheater, porn star payoff expert, multiple bankrupt, dictator ass-kissing, fiscally irresponsible, racist, bumbling and inept buffoon?  Or his feckless VP?  Specifics, please.

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

Another brilliantly constructed paragraph.  Exactly who are "you guys?"  And who should be prosecuted or removed from office, and under either what criminal or civil basis?  Specifics, please.

what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...

If you'd actually made a cogent argument for term limits, I'd consider it.  Why not try that, with some logical thoughts?  What do you like about McConnell? His ability to obstruct meaningful legislation?  His inability to cross the aisle and build consensus with the minority party?  Specifics, please.  I know that you trumpistas love that he blocked Garland's nomination.  Please explain how the turtle's purported "election year" reasoning was reversed when he was asked what he'd do if there was a SC nomination now?  Specifics, please.  And no, owning the "libs," isn't a cogent argument.  Sorry.

..too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

When in doubt, in true FauxNews fashion, resort to ad hominem attacks.  I can assure you, there is nothing that you post here that is difficult for any of us to process.  Quite the opposite.  You're a walking, talking product of the Breitbart/Infowars/FauxNews echo-chamber.  If you weren't representative of 30% my beloved country, you'd be laughable.

PH

 

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purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

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bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

  I'm not into soccer, so you'll never guess what I do--I don't read those threads. In addition I'm really not into getting arguments anymore but Napa, and his ilk, really need to be called out for their mindless support of this sickening threat to democracy.

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The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

Gentlemen, clearly English is not the empty suits first language and he only has a double digit IQ. Obviously Putin’s poodle Twitter vocabulary is his level of understanding. Period.

When facts are stated, he isn’t capable of addressing them nor is he interested in facts to begin with. Logic, facts, critical thinking and the nuance of debate are clearly beyond his mental gymnastic ability. 

One of the early questions posed to the empty suit was, “ what does MAGA mean?”  Is that the time women couldn’t vote? Is that a time when only white men were in power? Is that a time when the thinking was a catholic couldn’t be president? Was it a time when a woman could be at the very top of her law class yet not be offered a position at a world class law firm? Perhaps it was when people of color couldn’t eat, drink or even stay where white people did such. Was it a time when Jewish people couldn’t belong to the same country clubs? Was it a time when anyone with a different sexual preference could be put in jail, refused employment, employment benefits and mistreated without consequence? Perhaps it means it was a time that it was okay for your ancestors to immigrate to the United States because they looked like the people in power. Just exactly which decades does the term refer to was a question that the empty suit never answered. 

I am admitting I’m not proofreading my post as Wimbledon has already started without me. 🙃

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bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

bman posted:
winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers. 

Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂

wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers. 

Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂

Re your last comment, as it happens....

The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!  

PH

purplehaze posted:
wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!  

PH

I gotta be me......

napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish. 

You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?

As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.

And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:

Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.

Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.

Rothko posted:
flwino posted:
billhike posted:

At least the swamp got a little more drained today...

YUP!!  Good old Palm Beach County again.  All this $hit is here.  Would love to hear from Rothko re this crap.  He must know many of the players.

Sorry, I've been out of the country.  What did I miss?

Epstein.  Palm Beach.  Acosta & Kirchner  fiasco

figured that you knew some of the players in this fiasco

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The Old Man posted:
napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish. 

You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?

As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.

And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:

Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.

Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.

Below is the tweet in its entirety.  Read it and not just the abbreviated headline.  There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S. 

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!

What's racial about that?  Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives. 

WS Group Reply:  "You're a moron...only watch Fox news.  Trump is the disgrace".  

Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse"  for what they are.  And it seems that most smart people see it that way.  Good for him.  Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!!  AOC's  chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy. 

I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.

 

napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish. 

You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?

As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.

And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:

Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.

Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.

Below is the tweet in its entirety.  Read it and not just the abbreviated headline.  There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S. 

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!

What's racial about that?  Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives. 

WS Group Reply:  "You're a moron...only watch Fox news.  Trump is the disgrace".  

Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse"  for what they are.  And it seems that most smart people see it that way.  Good for him.  Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!!  AOC's  chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy. 

I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.

 

Napa, you clearly are a racist yourself, or completely devoid of any intellectual depth. Which is it? Perhaps both...

Let’s make it simple for you. When anyone says and or refers to, “ Go back to where you came from.”  Nothing more is needed. Period. This is the language of white supremacist and has been used by such against people of color, different religions, different sexual preferences et al for generations of blatantly and willfully ignorant, hateful and scared people. 

Plus for you to say, “ other than three were born in the US” is an example of you being intellectually bankrupt. Seriously. Your defense is invalid the very moment you utter those words! Go back to where you came from, you Americans. 😂 Stop your shameful defense there. 

The fake president hates John McCain because he was everything he could never be. Deeply respected by both sides of the House, an American hero who served his country with great honor and bravery. He too was a man of privilege, yet he served without fear and suffered lifelong injuries from such. He clearly was bipolar to the coward known as Trump in ever way. Yet, did he tell McCain to go back to where he was from? How about Bernie, a self confessed and proud socialist. Did he tell Bernie to go back to where he was from? Of course not. They are and were lilly white. 

 

wineart 2 posted:
napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish. 

You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?

As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.

And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:

Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.

Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.

Below is the tweet in its entirety.  Read it and not just the abbreviated headline.  There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S. 

"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!

What's racial about that?  Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives. 

WS Group Reply:  "You're a moron...only watch Fox news.  Trump is the disgrace".  

Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse"  for what they are.  And it seems that most smart people see it that way.  Good for him.  Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!!  AOC's  chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy. 

I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.

 

Napa, you clearly are a racist yourself, or completely devoid of any intellectual depth. Which is it? Perhaps both...

Let’s make it simple for you. When anyone says and or refers to, “ Go back to where you came from.”  Nothing more is needed. Period. Stop all conversation right there.  This is the language of white supremacist and has been used by such against people of color, different religions, different sexual preferences et al for generations of blatantly and willfully ignorant, hateful and scared people. 

Plus for you to say, “ other than three were born in the US” is an example of you being intellectually bankrupt. Seriously. Your defense is invalid the very moment you utter those words! Go back to where you came from, you Americans. 😂 Stop your shameful defense there. 

The fake president hates John McCain because he was everything he could never be. Deeply respected by both sides of the House, an American hero who served his country with great honor and bravery. He too was a man of privilege, yet he served without fear and suffered lifelong injuries from such. He clearly was bipolar to the coward known as Trump in ever way. Yet, did he tell McCain to go back to where he was from? How about Bernie, a self confessed and proud socialist. Did he tell Bernie to go back to where he was from? Of course not. They are and were lilly white. 

 

 

Just gonna put this out there.....

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has written specific rules that protect people, mostly immigrants, against employment discrimination on the basis of their national origin. The agency is responsible for enforcing laws that prohibit discrimination and harassment based on race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age and disability.

“Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities,” the commission said on its website to describe harassment based on national origin.

“Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include comments like, ‘Go back to where you came from,’ whether made by supervisors or co-workers,” it continued.

On Monday, the EEOC posted its own tweet detailing how to file a charge of discrimination that asks the agency to take action. The tweet did not mention the incident between the Democrats and Trump, though it was posted one day after the president’s remarks.

The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year.  It will never end.  For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from,"  is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list.  Again.

PH 

 

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