billhike posted:

Interesting that Dear Leader junior had about a 24-hour hiatus from tweeting. 

I think the justice department gave them some intel of what is coming soon. He is trying to figure out how to change the narrative as we speak. His BS attorney started the lying spin last night on CNN. 

Oh what a great move by the President to deny the use of our aircraft for Pelosi's overseas trip.  Bet her eyes got a little wider when she learned.  They need to show up to the table.

Trump should have the SOTU anyway and play a video of Obama, Clinton, Schumer and other democrats calling for a wall / stronger border security in the past.

napacat posted:

Oh what a great move by the President to deny the use of our aircraft for Pelosi's overseas trip.  Bet her eyes got a little wider when she learned.  They need to show up to the table.

Trump should have the SOTU anyway and play a video of Obama, Clinton, Schumer and other democrats calling for a wall / stronger border security in the past.

Do you have an issue with him divulging that she was going to Afghanistan, thereby putting her and the military and other staff that were accompanying her at risk?

He can have the SOTU anywhere he likes, just not in the House.

Also, you are forgetting that Trump had agreed to sign the necessary legislation - that McConnell and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats had negotiated - until Fox News got all up in his face about it.  As he himself said - on live TV no less - he owns the shutdown and only he can end it!

Rothko posted:
flwino posted:

Colds only last 7 days as per an old wives tale

I find it takes 9 days:  three days to come down with it; three days to have it; and three days to get rid of it.

 

I miss my youth.

The days of the 3 day cold are long gone, with all the crazy viruses and mutations thereof that circulate these days.

bman posted:
napacat posted:

Oh what a great move by the President to deny the use of our aircraft for Pelosi's overseas trip.  Bet her eyes got a little wider when she learned.  They need to show up to the table.

Trump should have the SOTU anyway and play a video of Obama, Clinton, Schumer and other democrats calling for a wall / stronger border security in the past.

Do you have an issue with him divulging that she was going to Afghanistan, thereby putting her and the military and other staff that were accompanying her at risk?

He can have the SOTU anywhere he likes, just not in the House.

Also, you are forgetting that Trump had agreed to sign the necessary legislation - that McConnell and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats had negotiated - until Fox News got all up in his face about it.  As he himself said - on live TV no less - he owns the shutdown and only he can end it!

I actually don't know if the Afghan part of the trip was meant to be a secret or not.

I am aware that there was some agreement on his part to sign...but can always change his mind for whatever reason.

napacat posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:

Oh what a great move by the President to deny the use of our aircraft for Pelosi's overseas trip.  Bet her eyes got a little wider when she learned.  They need to show up to the table.

Trump should have the SOTU anyway and play a video of Obama, Clinton, Schumer and other democrats calling for a wall / stronger border security in the past.

Do you have an issue with him divulging that she was going to Afghanistan, thereby putting her and the military and other staff that were accompanying her at risk?

He can have the SOTU anywhere he likes, just not in the House.

Also, you are forgetting that Trump had agreed to sign the necessary legislation - that McConnell and the rest of the Republicans and Democrats had negotiated - until Fox News got all up in his face about it.  As he himself said - on live TV no less - he owns the shutdown and only he can end it!

I actually don't know if the Afghan part of the trip was meant to be a secret or not.

I am aware that there was some agreement on his part to sign...but can always change his mind for whatever reason.

Travel by politicians and senior officials to areas of conflict is always a secret.  I know, I worked in several similar areas over my 30 year diplomatic career.  Trump crossed yet another line by revealing that.

And there was not "Some" agreement, there was an agreement or McConnell would never had had the Senate pass the legislation. That's why he won't bring anything to the floor unless Trump agrees in advance to sign it, Trump made him look stupid by changing his mind.  Which is of course his prerogative, but his inability to think for himself rather than following the lead of Fox News is what has led to this debacle and many others.  Sad!

Thanks, bman, for saving me the distaste of having to respond directly to trump's resident WS booster.  And governing by "changing his mind for whatever reason," is exactly what's been going on for 2 years down here.  The whatever reason was the disapproval of his TV friends.  There is no one left with any wisdom to counsel the orange menace.  He'll have to rely on Coulter, Hannity et al. for guidance going forward.  God help us.  

PH

 

purplehaze posted:

Thanks, bman, for saving me the distaste of having to respond directly to trump's resident WS booster.  And governing by "changing his mind for whatever reason," is exactly what's been going on for 2 years down here.  The whatever reason was the disapproval of his TV friends.  There is no one left with any wisdom to counsel the orange menace.  He'll have to rely on Coulter, Hannity et al. for guidance going forward.  God help us.  

PH

 

Just being my usual ever-helpful self.......  

mimik posted:
Rothko posted:
flwino posted:

Colds only last 7 days as per an old wives tale

I find it takes 9 days:  three days to come down with it; three days to have it; and three days to get rid of it.

 

I miss my youth.

The days of the 3 day cold are long gone, with all the crazy viruses and mutations thereof that circulate these days.

yea, anecdotal, but my cold this year was one of the worst I've ever gotten.

Bman, PH, 

Napa’s gotta be trolling. 

Meanwhile, I’m wholly disgusted with Barr. And it looks like he is going to be the next AG.  It is almost fortuitous for him that this shutdown is happening.  Were it not, I think a lot more attention would be being paid to his deeply disturbing answers to many questions.  Including his refusal to commit to releasing the Mueller report.

And Rudy is now openly admitting to collusion (or not denying) and saying but ‘the President didn’t commit a crime’.

Rudy is preparing the endgame for the dumpster.  Just more goalpost moving.  This latest blathering from Ghouliani leads me to believe that the cabal infesting our WH has a sense of what's on the horizon for them.  

I'm with you on Barr, but I'm not too worried about Mueller's report.  One way or the other, it'll be seen by a patriot somewhere and will see the light of day.  

PH

purplehaze posted:

Thanks, bman, for saving me the distaste of having to respond directly to trump's resident WS booster.  And governing by "changing his mind for whatever reason," is exactly what's been going on for 2 years down here.  The whatever reason was the disapproval of his TV friends.  There is no one left with any wisdom to counsel the orange menace.  He'll have to rely on Putin, the Russian oligarch mafia, Coulter, Hannity et al. for guidance going forward.  God help us.  

PH

 

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napacat posted:
flwino posted:

Can't believe that our resident Orangeman booster watches so much Fox news that he can't see straight, or can use the intellect that God gave him.

Thanks Bman for the comment on secret trips

 

 

You Sir, are a moron.  

Pipe down, snowflake.  Ya boy Putin's Bitch has had an amazing and historical past couple of weeks, and no doubt for all the right reasons!!!  The majority of the country is not blaming him for the partial government shutdown.  No one in his campaign committed any collusion with Russians.  And there's no evidence whatsoever (e.g. through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents) that he committed obstruction of justice.  It's only right that someone who has led such a righteous and clean life (from both a professional as well as family perspective) should be rewarded for his piety, humbleness and willingness to help those in need.  How dare Mueller and the Deep State keep bullying those who worked with Putin's Bitch into falsely admitting to criminal activities?!!?

/sarcasm  

 

ProSys posted:
napacat posted:
flwino posted:

Can't believe that our resident Orangeman booster watches so much Fox news that he can't see straight, or can use the intellect that God gave him.

Thanks Bman for the comment on secret trips

 

 

You Sir, are a moron.  

Pipe down, snowflake.  Ya boy Putin's Bitch has had an amazing and historical past couple of weeks, and no doubt for all the right reasons!!!  The majority of the country is not blaming him for the partial government shutdown.  No one in his campaign committed any collusion with Russians.  And there's no evidence whatsoever (e.g. through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents) that he committed obstruction of justice.  It's only right that someone who has led such a righteous and clean life (from both a professional as well as family perspective) should be rewarded for his piety, humbleness and willingness to help those in need.  How dare Mueller and the Deep State keep bullying those who worked with Putin's Bitch into falsely admitting to criminal activities?!!?

/sarcasm  

 

All excellent points. I would add Putin’s Poodle has also defeated ISIS, eliminated the nuclear threat in North Korea and strengthen our relationships with our allies in Western Europe, Canada and Mexico. I’m also comforted that the self professed god fearing man never misses church services each week. 

/lies 

Still better than Hillary!   How do you agree with or disregard the following:

- Deletion of 30k emails / cleaned with bleach bit after they have been subpoenaed

- Sanctuary cities

- Abolishment of ICE

- Welcome Illegal immigration 

So much more that makes zero sense to anyone.  No one could stand for the above policies and run on that and actually get elected.  You seriously don't think ISIS has been dealt a major blow? 

Napacat, you are nothing but consistent in demonstrating yet again that you are truly dumber than you look.  HRC, despite many years and $100M spent investigating her, was never indicted, AND NEVER WILL BE INDICTED.  That train of trying to draw up equivalency of what she's done versus what Dumb Donald has done left the station a long time ago, and yet you're still enough of a mental midget to keep waiting at the platform for it, all the while trying to convince people much smarter than you that it's bound to arrive any moment now.  

Meanwhile, Putin's Bitch has federal and state indictments in his very near future (unless he miraculously wins reelection, and that would only delay most of those).  His attempts to grift his way out of those predicaments will sadly fail, and the many markers he owes to the Russians, Saudis and his other overseas sources of financing are going to topple the last vestiges of his facade of wealth.  His tenure as POTUS will be viewed as historic, but for all the wrong reasons!

Nah zdrovya!

napacat posted:

Still better than Hillary!   How do you agree with or disregard the following:

- Deletion of 30k emails / cleaned with bleach bit after they have been subpoenaed

- Sanctuary cities

- Abolishment of ICE

- Welcome Illegal immigration 

So much more that makes zero sense to anyone.  No one could stand for the above policies and run on that and actually get elected.  You seriously don't think ISIS has been dealt a major blow? 

Napa, I took a little time to do some fact-checking on the points you make above.  The point re deletion of emails has been dealt with by PROSYS and in any case is in no way equivalent to the mounting evidence, much of it available before the election, that Trump and/or his campaign was in cahoots with the Russians to illegally influence the outcome of the election, never mind his obvious failings as a leader and a human being and model to and symbol to the world and America.  The world is laughing at him and so at your country, the negative consequences of which for the US and the world will be ever more painfully apparent as time goes on.

Here is a fact-check on Hillary's support for sanctuary cities, which you will see is much more nuanced and balanced than you suggest:  https://www.politifact.com/flo...linton-says-hillary/

I can find nothing about Hillary Clinton wanting to abolish ICE and as a Senator she voted to establish it.  Nor can I find her saying that she welcomed illegal immigration or anything like that, so unless you can find a quote of her saying that, it seems that you are either making that up or taking it from people on Fox or Breitbart or wherever else the far right resides.

In any case, even if all of the above were true, it would not begin to balance the long and short-term damage Trump is doing to your country and the world. I get that you voted for him and are afraid to admit that was a mistake, and so are struggling to rationalize your decision, but it simply is not possible for anyone with even a basic knowledge of politics or how government works to think that he is fit to be President, if not before the election, certainly now.

bman posted:
napacat posted:

Still better than Hillary!   How do you agree with or disregard the following:

- Deletion of 30k emails / cleaned with bleach bit after they have been subpoenaed

- Sanctuary cities

- Abolishment of ICE

- Welcome Illegal immigration 

So much more that makes zero sense to anyone.  No one could stand for the above policies and run on that and actually get elected.  You seriously don't think ISIS has been dealt a major blow? 

Napa, I took a little time to do some fact-checking on the points you make above.  The point re deletion of emails has been dealt with by PROSYS and in any case is in no way equivalent to the mounting evidence, much of it available before the election, that Trump and/or his campaign was in cahoots with the Russians to illegally influence the outcome of the election, never mind his obvious failings as a leader and a human being and model to and symbol to the world and America.  The world is laughing at him and so at your country, the negative consequences of which for the US and the world will be ever more painfully apparent as time goes on.

Here is a fact-check on Hillary's support for sanctuary cities, which you will see is much more nuanced and balanced that you suggest:  https://www.politifact.com/flo...linton-says-hillary/

I can find nothing about Hillary Clinton wanting to abolish ICE and as a Senator she voted to establish it.  Nor can I find her saying that she welcomed illegal immigration or anything like that, so unless you can find a quote of her saying that, it seems that you are either making that up or taking it from people on Fox or Breitbart or wherever else the far right resides.

In any case, even if all of the above were true, it would not begin to balance the long and short-term damage Trump is doing to your country and the world. I get that you voted for him and are afraid to admit that was a mistake, and so are struggling to rationalize your decision, but it simply is not possible for anyone with even a basic knowledge of politics or how government works to think that he is fit to be President, if not before the election, certainly now.

So. Well. Put. 

winetarelli posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:

Still better than Hillary!   How do you agree with or disregard the following:

- Deletion of 30k emails / cleaned with bleach bit after they have been subpoenaed

- Sanctuary cities

- Abolishment of ICE

- Welcome Illegal immigration 

So much more that makes zero sense to anyone.  No one could stand for the above policies and run on that and actually get elected.  You seriously don't think ISIS has been dealt a major blow? 

Napa, I took a little time to do some fact-checking on the points you make above.  The point re deletion of emails has been dealt with by PROSYS and in any case is in no way equivalent to the mounting evidence, much of it available before the election, that Trump and/or his campaign was in cahoots with the Russians to illegally influence the outcome of the election, never mind his obvious failings as a leader and a human being and model to and symbol to the world and America.  The world is laughing at him and so at your country, the negative consequences of which for the US and the world will be ever more painfully apparent as time goes on.

Here is a fact-check on Hillary's support for sanctuary cities, which you will see is much more nuanced and balanced that you suggest:  https://www.politifact.com/flo...linton-says-hillary/

I can find nothing about Hillary Clinton wanting to abolish ICE and as a Senator she voted to establish it.  Nor can I find her saying that she welcomed illegal immigration or anything like that, so unless you can find a quote of her saying that, it seems that you are either making that up or taking it from people on Fox or Breitbart or wherever else the far right resides.

In any case, even if all of the above were true, it would not begin to balance the long and short-term damage Trump is doing to your country and the world. I get that you voted for him and are afraid to admit that was a mistake, and so are struggling to rationalize your decision, but it simply is not possible for anyone with even a basic knowledge of politics or how government works to think that he is fit to be President, if not before the election, certainly now.

So. Well. Put. 

Facts and truth have NOTHING to due with anything that comes out of Napa’s mouth. Reminds me of someone else. 

Napa couldn't identify "truth" even if it wore a name tag.  He for sure dispels all evidence of wrong doing by the dumpster and pals.

Now in Florida the new pal of the dumpster has fired the elections supervisors in Palm Beach and Broward as they did their best to count the votes. 

 

mountainman posted:

Thought I would pay a visit to the WS forum, is this the old "Madder than Hell" section from 10 years ago reincarnated?

 

MM, it's great to see you back!  Hope all is well!

To answer your question, yes, pretty much. Seems almost anything goes here. It's a good outlet for whatever pisses one off and keeps it out of other threads. 

bman posted:
mountainman posted:

Thought I would pay a visit to the WS forum, is this the old "Madder than Hell" section from 10 years ago reincarnated?

 

MM, it's great to see you back!  Hope all is well!

To answer your question, yes, pretty much. Seems almost anything goes here. It's a good outlet for whatever pisses one off and keeps it out of other threads. 

its a great place for people with TDS to vent

thistlintom posted:
bman posted:
mountainman posted:

Thought I would pay a visit to the WS forum, is this the old "Madder than Hell" section from 10 years ago reincarnated?

 

MM, it's great to see you back!  Hope all is well!

To answer your question, yes, pretty much. Seems almost anything goes here. It's a good outlet for whatever pisses one off and keeps it out of other threads. 

its a great place for people with TDS to vent

Indeed.  We even started a TDS - Winegeek Division!

flwino posted:

Napa couldn't identify "truth" even if it wore a name tag.  He for sure dispels all evidence of wrong doing by the dumpster and pals.

Now in Florida the new pal of the dumpster has fired the elections supervisors in Palm Beach and Broward as they did their best to count the votes. 

 

I called you a moron and I need to apologize to morons.  You’re dumber than I thought. 

napacat posted:
flwino posted:

Napa couldn't identify "truth" even if it wore a name tag.  He for sure dispels all evidence of wrong doing by the dumpster and pals.

Now in Florida the new pal of the dumpster has fired the elections supervisors in Palm Beach and Broward as they did their best to count the votes. 

 

I called you a moron and I need to apologize to morons.  You’re dumber than I thought. 

Why don't you grow up

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