PH, only if the midterms turn over both sides of the aisle, unfortunately. There is no longer a republican party. The republicans are exiting and now it is Trump’s party.
Now Trump has invited the very person who admitted he wanted Trump to win ( Putin) and is continuing to interfere in our midterms to visit Washington this fall to have a better view of his interference and its affects.
wineart 2 posted:PH, only if the midterms turn over both sides of the aisle, unfortunately. There is no longer a republican party. The republicans are exiting and now it is Trump’s party.
Now Trump has invited the very person who admitted he wanted Trump to win ( Putin) and is continuing to interfere in our midterms to visit Washington this fall to have a better view of his interference and its affects.
It's a sad thing to see. One thing that I'd bet that no one here is aware of, is that you and I are a good deal more conservative than recent posts in this forum might lead them to believe. You are correct... the Republican party is gone, replaced by Trumpistanis. It is now truly impossible for moderate Republicans in office to speak out without fear of being hammered by the tea party, freedom caucus and trumpski's fat little thumbs. Sad.
PH
purplehaze posted:One thing that I'd bet that no one here is aware of, is that you and I are a good deal more conservative than recent posts in this forum might lead them to believe.PH
I kind of figured that about you two, and some others. If not straight-up conservatives, I'm certain there are a fair number of "traditional or historical" repubs that can't stand the guy. I don't consider him a republican or a conservative. Simply an attention-needing jagoff who gets off on stirring pots regardless of the result. A true subhuman POS.
I'm especially riled up about him this week as our freight invoices this week started reflecting the 25% duties on items we buy - costs that must be passed on to our customers immediately. But yeah, trade wars are good. We can't lose.
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:PH, only if the midterms turn over both sides of the aisle, unfortunately. There is no longer a republican party. The republicans are exiting and now it is Trump’s party.
Now Trump has invited the very person who admitted he wanted Trump to win ( Putin) and is continuing to interfere in our midterms to visit Washington this fall to have a better view of his interference and its affects.
It's a sad thing to see. One thing that I'd bet that no one here is aware of, is that you and I are a good deal more conservative than recent posts in this forum might lead them to believe. You are correct... the Republican party is gone, replaced by Trumpistanis. It is now truly impossible for moderate Republicans in office to speak out without fear of being hammered by the tea party, freedom caucus and trumpski's fat little thumbs. Sad.
PH
I thought you guys were l ike straight up neoliberals. (acutally I dont even know what the labels mean anymore since a small minority of this country just calls everyone who they dont agree with liberals)
Haha... I’m a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, so I’m screwed !
I think growing up in my household, we were called Rockefeller republicans.
G, me too.
wineart 2 posted:Haha... I’m a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, so I’m screwed !
Yep, but with the Republicans no longer showing fiscal conservatism it doesn't leave much soul searching anymore on how to vote.
In spite of a general scorched-Earth mindset towards the Republican party these days, I'd still consider voting for a moderate Republican. But we're talking about an endangered species here. They may be more screwed than we are!
As a Liberal since exiting the womb, growing up I always found Conservatives to admire, even if I wouldn’t vote for them. H.W., Alan Simpson, Jack Kemp... William F. Buckley and of course the great Bill Safire come to mind. When I was 16 I had friends supporting Dole/Kemp, and I was ok with them doing so — it wasn’t a character flaw, it was just a disagreement. James Baker is the most successful Secretary of State of my lifetime.
But right now even Newt’s primary colonels —Scarborough and Kasich — have jumped ship. Mainstays of Conservativism and the former Republican Party from major players in the W White House like Nicole Wallace to McCain’s campaign manager, Steve Schmidt, to George F. Will have urged all people regardless of party to vote straight Democratic ticket until this scourge — not just Trump, himself, but Trumpism — passes (if it does).
I really try to have empathy for Trump supporters. I say that they get their “news” from such different places and are surrounded by such different people that they simply have been duped. I say that “Only a Pawn In Their Game” is more relevant today than it was in 1963. And there is a giant apparatus in place to trick White working class Americans into believing the barriers to their economic success and safety are “others” as opposed to the absurdist policies of those doing the scapegoating. (eg. a 1.3T tax cut that doesn’t substantively cut 99.9% of the population’s taxes — though the effects of that one have yet to be felt — cuts to basic services including, and perhaps especially, education.) And a lot of that is certainly true. But it is not the entire story.
There is a base racism, authoritarianism, and anti (small “l”) liberalism running through one of the two major political parties. Fascism. With a true moron suffering from clinical narcissism as its leader. And, particularly unfortunately, said narcissistic moron is the President of the United States.
For the record I’ve studied existential personality disorders. Narcissism (benign and malignant), necrophilia, sadism. I studied them fairly in depth in college and none so much as narcissism. It was in an upper level Government course called “Causes of War”.
wineart 2 posted:Mimik is a great guy!
Thanks buddy!
wineart 2 posted:G, me too.
Me as well. Maybe it’s time to start our own party!
Winetarelli, great post and unfortunately the type of republicans you listed are few and far between.
The US Secretary of State Pompeo said yesterday the has great confidence the Russians are trying to undermine western democracy and will for an awful long time.
Think about this statement in an interview on Trump-Fox news just yesterday, the same day that the fake president invites the very person responsible for Pompeo’s comments was invited to Washington D.C. around our election date for the midterms.
F~¥K ME!
"I can't believe Michael would to this to me."
PH
We were advised yesterday that Russian Intelligence tried to hack into three different congressional campaigns recently.
I’m surprised Putin’s puppet in the oval office has not commented yet.
wineart 2 posted:We were advised yesterday that Russian Intelligence tried to hack into three different congressional campaigns recently.
I’m surprised Putin’s puppet in the oval office has not commented yet.
According to Tom Burt, a VP in security with Microsoft (who discovered the hacking attempts)
“They were all people who, because of their positions, might have been interesting targets from an espionage standpoint as well as an election disruption standpoint.”
So far, nothing from Putin's poodle. It appears the only tweet from spanky today was continued carping about Michael Cohen. Glad to see he has his priorities in order. 
PH
purplehaze posted:"I can't believe Michael would to this to me."
PH
This, from the guy who threatened over social media to release the "tapes" of his private conversations with James Comey.
mneeley490 posted:purplehaze posted:"I can't believe Michael would to this to me."
PH
This, from the guy who threatened over social media to release the "tapes" of his private conversations with James Comey.
To quote Comey, “Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”
Lots of tapes. Bigly tapes. The very best tapes.
PH
purplehaze posted:mneeley490 posted:purplehaze posted:"I can't believe Michael would to this to me."
PH
This, from the guy who threatened over social media to release the "tapes" of his private conversations with James Comey.
To quote Comey, “Lordy, I hope there are tapes.”
Lots of tapes. Bigly tapes. The very best tapes.
PH
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I love peanut butter and pickle sandwiches. This forum re-redesign? Not so much.
ahah guys, would it be too random if I ask you to pass a questionnaire related to the wine and its labeling? Help me to make wine marketing better 
Moreover, with the glass of wine the questionnaire goes much better!
The link is below:
Khrystyna Iurkova posted:ahah guys, would it be too random if I ask you to pass a questionnaire related to the wine and its labeling? Help me to make wine marketing better
The link is below:
That wou ld go into the regular wine conversations topic not something completely random and off topic =)
also in interest of disclosure, please post what affliation you have with any commercial interests and what is the purpose of our information when filling out the survey.
thanks
g-man posted:Khrystyna Iurkova posted:ahah guys, would it be too random if I ask you to pass a questionnaire related to the wine and its labeling? Help me to make wine marketing better
The link is below:
That wou ld go into the regular wine conversations topic not something completely random and off topic =)
also in interest of disclosure, please post what affliation you have with any commercial interests and what is the purpose of our information when filling out the survey.
thanks
Tsk, tsk, mimik.
When Gowdy of all people goes after Putin’s poodle like he did yesterday, perhaps there is hope.
Sasha Cohen dupes a state rep from SE GA posing as an anti terrorism expert. The guy met with him as he feared attacks since he introduced a bill in the GA House to ban burqas worn by Muslim women.
The GA governor has called for his resignation
Watch "Erran Morad Teaches Jason Spencer Defense
Dotard now threatening to remove security clearances from former officials who have been critical of his administration. The list announced by Huckster Sanders at today's WH briefing include 2 former officials (Comey and McCabe) who no longer even have security clearances! You can't make this stuff up, people.
PH, Putin’s poodle would be the last person to know who has security clearance and who does not.
He truly is willfully ignorant.
wineart 2 posted:PH, Putin’s poodle would be the last person to know who has security clearance and who does not.
He truly is willfully ignorant.
Yeah... but the huckster was reading this list from a prepared statement in the briefing. You'd think that SOMEONE, anyone might have fact-checked the list, no? Oh, what the hell am I thinking.
Additionally, several others who still have clearances have said they do not attend briefings, nor have they used their clearances ONCE since leaving their position.
These clearances are left in place as a courtesy (something else that is incomprehensible to this group of malfeasants) and would allow them to be quickly consulted in the event something came up where they had particular expertise. This move would further weaken our intelligence capabilities. Childish, thoughtless political retaliation.
PH
Our security clearances are valid for and must be renewed every 10 years. I retired from the government in 2012 but presume mine. Is still valid as I think it was renewed a year or two before I left. But i've not had reason to use it since then nor would I be allowed or even in any position to do so. Guessing it would be the same in the US.
It depends on the position of the SC holder and the nature of their departure from office. In Comey's and Mc Cabe's case, they were "read out," immediately on their termination.
PH
Barolo in the Claret Jug
""Johnny Bench".....
""It’s tough to be nicknamed “Johnny Football” when you’re relegated to backup duties and never see the field — then again, “Johnny Bench” is pretty much already taken — so Sunday’s trade to the Montreal Alouettes could be just what the doctor ordered for Johnny Manziel.
g-man posted:Khrystyna Iurkova posted:ahah guys, would it be too random if I ask you to pass a questionnaire related to the wine and its labeling? Help me to make wine marketing better
The link is below:
That wou ld go into the regular wine conversations topic not something completely random and off topic =)
also in interest of disclosure, please post what affliation you have with any commercial interests and what is the purpose of our information when filling out the survey.
thanks
Because that would be logical to ask about wine people who are actually interested in it, and not just random people in fb.
And there is no any commercial interest (although I mentioned a bar). It's a project I am doing while studying at my university. The purpose of your information is to gain some insights in consumer preferences towards labelling, that's it 
Facebook is a better source for your study in my opinion. You are asking for consumer preferences on wine labels. This group is strongly biased against labels because a) they judge a bottle on its contents or b) they chase Parker points. A Facebook sample is better because it represents a broader group of consumers that would pick a wine bottle from a retail shelf.
drumpf now tweeting that Russia will be "pushing very hard for the Democrats," in the upcoming mid-terms, since "no President has been tougher on Russia than me."
I need a shot of vodka and a bong-hit.
PH
PH, the NJ conman thinks everyone is as gullible as his tribal cult.
He only plays to and cares about his cult, period.
wineart 2 posted:PH, the NJ conman thinks everyone is as gullible as his tribal cult.
He only plays to and cares about his cult, period.
I will offer them all vodka shots and bong-hits, in the spirit of conciliation. Even the couple of friends I have that voted for the dotard are embarrassed and contrite at this point. I only hope that right-thinking Americans are energized in November. That's "energised," to you, b-man! 
I predict major interference, sleight of hand and disinformation this fall in an attempt to distract voters from the idiocy that is currently going on. Stay focused, America.
Oh... napacat? We're still waiting for your insights on Helsinki. An update on the "major winning," from North Korea would be fun to read as well...
PH
Fresh round of tax cuts, free money to farmers, 1.5 trillion giveaway already on the books.
Someone should inform this congress that you don't practice recession stimulation techniques when times are good. It leads to this thing called inflation.
i can only imagine lamenting to my kids when in ten years, that back in my day, apples were 1$.
Surely you aren't questioning the methods of someone from the great Wharton School of Business.
