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@g-man posted:

bleeeaaaatttt.

sheeple.  go back to chewing some hay.  You wouldn't even know how to properly respond intelligently unless someone else had already wrote it and you could copy paste it.

Let me know when you'll be out here protesting with me, I'll take a pic with you.

Why would I be protesting?  Already stated what the police officers did in Minnesota was reprehensible and murder.  Now, let justice take it's course.  I don't see a reason to protest.

@irwin posted:

Just what do you think the military should do?  What do you mean by "crush" these losers?  Explain in cogent terms, please. 

 

To be fair, the military is not really trained for this...however, once a peaceful protest turns violent (beating cops, beating innocent people, looting and arson), they need to be arrested on the spot.  Put in a large truck (no social distancing) and taken to prison.

@wine+art posted:

Well, he ‘tried’ reading the Bible once and it only proved he is nothing more than a conman and fraud. Two Corinthians. 🤣😂😅.  Fraud. 

Pray? He was asked on camera once about prayer and asking for forgiveness. I think any Christian remembers his reply. Sin? I do not regret never asking God for forgiveness he told Maxwell Tani of Business Insider. There are so many other examples of him responding the same. 

“Mr. President, is that your bible?” “It’s a bible.” His bible? 🙈. Stop it! 

I do believe his religious portrayal is a front and not at all real.  But hey, the evangelicals have to vote for someone...might as well be a Republican.   The Two Corinthians was very funny.  

@napacat posted:

I do believe his religious portrayal is a front and not at all real.  But hey, the evangelicals have to vote for someone...might as well be a Republican.   The Two Corinthians was very funny.  

Trump isn't a Republican, it's just a mask he wears so that easily tricked people like you will feed his malevolent narcissism.

@bman posted:

Trump isn't a Republican, it's just a mask he wears so that easily tricked people like you will feed his malevolent narcissism.

Fine...his governance is much more aligned with what I prefer than the Democratic agenda.  Not tricked at all.  Quite frankly, it is the other way around.  The Democrats could care less for the people they claim to care about. They do care deeply though for the dependence on government and their vote.    Wake up.

@napacat posted:

Why would I be protesting?  Already stated what the police officers did in Minnesota was reprehensible and murder.  Now, let justice take it's course.  I don't see a reason to protest.

You only need to do some googling to see how often cops are prosecuted for the crimes they commit to see there is no justice once youre behind the thin blue line.

Alot of people throw around white privilege but in your case it aptly applies with the ignorance you've just displayed.  Soon you will be copy pasting me nonsense from fox about how people shouldnt resist and they woulsnt have been killed.

The proper demand is that we should disband and forbid all public sector unions.  The police should be held accountable to the tax payer and not the other way around.  Individuals should be personally liable for all civil infraction payouts instead of the tax payer.

You cant weed out bad apples with the union in place.

@napacat posted:

To be fair, the military is not really trained for this...however, once a peaceful protest turns violent (beating cops, beating innocent people, looting and arson), they need to be arrested on the spot.  Put in a large truck (no social distancing) and taken to prison.

Your ignorance here is out standing.  The military does not arrest people.  They kill people.  Feel free to ask any vet on the forums

@g-man posted:

You only need to do some googling to see how often cops are prosecuted for the crimes they commit to see there is no justice once youre behind the thin blue line.

Alot of people throw around white privilege but in your case it aptly applies with the ignorance you've just displayed.  Soon you will be copy pasting me nonsense from fox about how people shouldnt resist and they woulsnt have been killed.

The proper demand is that we should disband and forbid all public sector unions.  The police should be held accountable to the tax payer and not the other way around.  Individuals should be personally liable for all civil infraction payouts instead of the tax payer.

You cant weed out bad apples with the union in place.

I'm fine without any unions.  Are there bad cops...for sure.  But it is a really small number.  And we ask a lot from them.  In general they deal with the worst of society.  How is it that the majority of you seem to defend criminals, Illegal entry into the U.S. and everything else that makes no sense at all?  White privilege....please. Pure nonsense.  But they got you to buy into it.  Should I be feeling guilty?   I have ZERO problems with policy in general.

@g-man posted:

Your ignorance here is out standing.  The military does not arrest people.  They kill people.  Feel free to ask any vet on the forums

There you go again...tunnel vision.  I said they were not trained for that.  And the use of the ellipses (...) transferred thought to tell you what the police should be doing.  I'm fully fine though with a complete show of force from the military...not to peaceful protesters but to the rioters, looters and arsonists.  Now...are you going to be able to tell who is peaceful and who is not from the crowd gathered...No

@napacat posted:

I'm fine without any unions.  Are there bad cops...for sure.  But it is a really small number.  And we ask a lot from them.  In general they deal with the worst of society.  How is it that the majority of you seem to defend criminals, Illegal entry into the U.S. and everything else that makes no sense at all?  White privilege....please. Pure nonsense.  But they got you to buy into it.  Should I be feeling guilty?   I have ZERO problems with policy in general.

Your ability to raise strawmans is way too strong.  

None of what you said is anywhere near related to the issue at hand.  It is rightly so that you suffer from a real case of white privilege.

As with a small number of bad cops, you have no data to back that assertion up.  You also are missing the point that cops are entrusted with the public care and given lethal weapons to enforce laws.  However the union and the supreme court have both said their own interest is more important than the public.  Because of such there can be no bad apples no matter how small.  Would you say its okay to have a few bad pilots flying commercial planes?

@g-man posted:

Your ability to raise strawmans is way too strong.  

None of what you said is anywhere near related to the issue at hand.  It is rightly so that you suffer from a real case of white privilege.

As with a small number of bad cops, you have no data to back that assertion up.  You also are missing the point that cops are entrusted with the public care and given lethal weapons to enforce laws.  However the union and the supreme court have both said their own interest is more important than the public.  Because of such there can be no bad apples no matter how small.  Would you say its okay to have a few bad pilots flying commercial planes?

Just trying to keep up with your drivel...common sense would lead you to believe the number is small otherwise you would have a disproportionate amount of law suits against policy / policy departments. I'm sure all the statistics I need are out there to be researched.   

As for the commercial pilot question...it is a stupid one, as we know that in any field there are better trained people than others.  There are better pilots than other pilots (Sully)...it really only matters when the shit hits the fan.  There are better heart surgeons than other heart surgeons...what's your point.

Don't remotely suffer from a case of white privilege...it's a fallacy.  Just an excuse and a made up term to give people an outlet for blame.

@napacat posted:

Why would I be protesting?  Already stated what the police officers did in Minnesota was reprehensible and murder.  Now, let justice take it's course.  I don't see a reason to protest.

What you don't understand that justice doesn't take the same course for you as it does for a black man.  It's a truly profound level of arrogance and ignorance that you can't see that. 

@napacat posted:

Just trying to keep up with your drivel...common sense would lead you to believe the number is small otherwise you would have a disproportionate amount of law suits against policy / policy departments. I'm sure all the statistics I need are out there to be researched.   

As for the commercial pilot question...it is a stupid one, as we know that in any field there are better trained people than others.  There are better pilots than other pilots (Sully)...it really only matters when the shit hits the fan.  There are better heart surgeons than other heart surgeons...what's your point.

Don't remotely suffer from a case of white privilege...it's a fallacy.  Just an excuse and a made up term to give people an outlet for blame.

My comments are backed by proper facts and observations. Your drivel are nothing but sheepish comments that youve parroted from a few select websites, sometimes word for word.

Here is some hw just google the cost of police departments paying out civil lawsuits and you will see the number is drastically higher than imaginable.  Paid for by the tax payer with little recourse for change and no penalties for the offending cop.

And you seem to suffer from logical thinking let alone common sense.  The pilot analogy is exactly apt.  All professions require baseline training.  Listing superstar examples doesnt have any relevance with the discussing at hand.  Last time there was a bad apple pilot the plane disappeared into the indian ocean and never to be found again.  Its why its unacceptable for that profession to have any bad apples at all.  The same goes for those who are entrusted with the public safety, enforcement of laws and lethal weapons.

And yes. White privilege gets thrown around incorrectly but your comments in this thread have shown that you would be a valid definition of white privilege

@napacat posted:

Fine...his governance is much more aligned with what I prefer than the Democratic agenda.  Not tricked at all.  Quite frankly, it is the other way around.  The Democrats could care less for the people they claim to care about. They do care deeply though for the dependence on government and their vote.    Wake up.

Are you suggesting that Trump cares about anyone other than himself?  Please offer an example of something he did that was not in his own interest. And not something trivial like a billionaire donating his 100K  quarterly salary, something that shows definitively that he cares about anyone but himself. 

@bman posted:

Are you suggesting that Trump cares about anyone other than himself?  Please offer an example of something he did that was not in his own interest. And not something trivial like a billionaire donating his 100K  quarterly salary, something that shows definitively that he cares about anyone but himself. 

He pardoned Rod Blagojevich...

I'm beginning to think this is going to be a good major moment for the young people in America (I'm assuming the great majority out there are between 18 to 40 or so). As I said, in an earlier post, I think 5% of the people out there have no other purpose than to destroy and steal. Perhaps another few percent are people who didn't start by looting or destroying but got into it after it started. As the police get the control they should have had earlier (It's not like it's a secret that LA has experienced the worse riot in the late 20th century.) In addition, even I know where the hottest clothing and shoe stores are. in LA. Dolls Kill is right by Canters. It wasn't a surprise what areas they hit.

The remainder, the vast majority, are young people who are trying to make a difference. I think the last time we had impassioned protests across the country was in the Vietnam era. I find it a hopeful thing. Let's not mix up wanting destruction to take place with using our first amendment rights. Perhaps this is the moment, like what happened with Vietnam protests, that may help lead to a better future.

Who would have thought that Millennials would be the first generation after the hippies to finally step up for major change?

It is the right of Americans to peacefully protest, not withstanding the would-be dictator (and religious leader) in the White House.

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