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@bman posted:

Why do you see him as a hero?

Because he is trying to provide some rationale in regards to people's constitutional rights in a time when some politicians are going overboard in restricting rights.  He is not saying that some restrictions are unnecessary, he is saying that some of the restrictions may interfere with people's rights, such as the right to practice their religion.

@thistlintom posted:

Because he is trying to provide some rationale in regards to people's constitutional rights in a time when some politicians are going overboard in restricting rights.  He is not saying that some restrictions are unnecessary, he is saying that some of the restrictions may interfere with people's rights, such as the right to practice their religion.

Isn't the right to life the ultimate constitutional right?

 

@bman posted:

Isn't the right to life the ultimate constitutional right?

 

So you are ok with trampling every constitutional right in order to do what you think is saving other people's lives?  so it was ok when China boarded up people in their homes to protect their lives?  Do you not see there is room for moderation, and not absolutism? Barr is asking for a balanced view and concern for people's constitutional rights when considering prevention of people being in public, eliminating commerce and such.

@thistlintom posted:

So you are ok with trampling every constitutional right in order to do what you think is saving other people's lives?  so it was ok when China boarded up people in their homes to protect their lives?  Do you not see there is room for moderation, and not absolutism? Barr is asking for a balanced view and concern for people's constitutional rights when considering prevention of people being in public, eliminating commerce and such.

Pretty sure there are still a few constitutional rights left untrampled but since you asked, yes, I would be fine with restrictions on the right to congregate to protect the right to not die because a bunch of ignorant Neanderthals wanted to do so. I am also alright with following the unanimous advice of medical professionals who say these measures are necessary. I agree that some restrictions go too far but overall they are necessary and all Barr is doing is encouraging people to defy lawful orders of their governors. How does that align with his role as the nation's top law officer?  

@bman posted:

 I agree that some restrictions go too far but overall they are necessary and all Barr is doing is encouraging people to defy lawful orders of their governors. How does that align with his role as the nation's top law officer?  

Well his boss reads about the four-step plan to reopen the government and within days he's encouraging people to violate his OWN guidelines. This is responsible governance? You're either a responsible member of society or your not.

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@The Old Man posted:

Well his boss reads about the four-step plan to reopen the government and within days he's encouraging people to violate his OWN guidelines. This is responsible governance? 

It's not governance of any kind and illustrates perfectly why Trump is unfit to hold any responsible elected office. Confusion and chaos reign became he is incapable of forming plans or strategies or taking advice from the experts in place to give it to him, usually people he put there in the first place.  What he says and does seems based on what whoever he last spoke to tells him. And of course as long as it aligns with his self-interest above all else. 

@The Old Man posted:

"Trump Says He Told Navy to ‘Shoot Down’ Iranian Boats, as Tehran Launches Military Satellite"

Er, OK.

Are you talking about the same bloated buffoon who said yesterday that he has had over 100 governors call him? 100. The same idiot that said America controlled the skies with our air force to help win the American Revolution? The same POS that just fired our Vaccine Director Dr. Bright because he wouldn’t promote Trump’s coronavirus treatments he was touting?  

Of which reports are starting to come in that they don't seem to make a difference and can do harm? The one who just now said that there is a chance Covid 19 won't return in the fall right before Dr. Fauci said we will definitely have it in the fall. But yeah, Republican Governors open it up. And you Trump supporters get right out there  and go to pool halls and nail salons and be sure to get your haircut. Maybe thousands more dead is it what it will take for people like Nappy and his ilk to wake up.

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@The Old Man posted:

Evidence suggests that ejaculation frequency may be inversely related to the risk of prostate cancer

Or to be clearer, more sex and masturbation (good news for those who are socially distancing) helps reduce the rate of prostate cancer. Gentlemen, get to work!

I think what you typed is good news for me, but I can't tell because my vision is fading.

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@wine+art posted:

So today, the chicken shit orange pile of dung refuses to take questions. 🤣😂😅

Apparently, after he became a subject of ridicule for his suggestion that doctors insert UV light inside the body while downing Lysol, someone finally got through to him that with these two hour shit shows he was shooting himself in his bone spurred foot. I much prefer he keep it up and continue to show the public what clueless fool he is.

No president has ever gotten such a small public approval bounce from this handling of a crisis and even that small rise has disappeared. His incompetence, his childishness and his lack of understanding of the facts has been on full display. His thinking has been that high ratings (which he talks about while tens of thousands of people die) equates with approval or even worse, his need to be loved and admired. "Your favorite president." "I am the chosen one." (While looking to the sky.)

The 40% who incomprehensibly support this shell of a man will continue to do so no matter what. I also have little faith in the American public so we'll see what happens in November. Oh yes, I do think the dreaded Hillary would have handled this better. It's impossible to think of anyone handling it worse.

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Anybody else surprised at how little media attention Tara Reade has gotten compared to the Kavanaugh accuser?  Surprised that MeToo isn't all over it?

Could be because the guy she's accusing is running against the guy who bragged on tape of sexually assaulting women and stands accused by several dozen women of doing just that. They guy who was banging a porn star while his third wife was pregnant and who screwed around on his first wife with his second wife.  Decades-old accusations by one person don't match up well against that!

Anybody else surprised at how little media attention Tara Reade has gotten compared to the Kavanaugh accuser?  Surprised that MeToo isn't all over it?

Christine Blasey Ford was reluctant to tell her story, but her story of what she says happened was pretty resolute.

Tara Reade’s story has changed thru the years.  Her behavior for a victim has been a bit unusual at times:

https://medium.com/@eddiekrass...assault-346eb2fd3eee

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@bman posted:

Could be because the guy she's accusing is running against the guy who bragged on tape of sexually assaulting women and stands accused by several dozen women of doing just that. They guy who was banging a porn star while his third wife was pregnant and who screwed around on his first wife with his second wife.  Decades-old accusations by one person don't match up well against that!

There are several factors going into it. “Hilary’s emails” is definitely on everyone’s mind; and the allegation is probably (at least mostly) false. 

The hypocrisy of “Left Twitter” and the likes of spending the past few years literally or functionally arguing for taking allegations at face value — including words  and actions of Biden, himself — and then turning around and applying a totally different standard is definitely something to behold. I can only hope the party that generally stands for liberalism, due process, and evidence-based action is reminded of the importance of those values irrespective of moral panic or justified need for social change.  A decrease in public perception of need for evidence when an accusation of *anything* is made, over time, will never benefit the less powerful. 

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