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The Old ManThe Old ManMember

At this point I've decided I can't watch the news. I keep getting a dreadful feeling. However I had that same feeling Nov. 3 around 8pm and I was wrong. Someone shared with me Mike Pompeo's comment. It's been clear since Saturday they are going to try (and I give them at least 50% odds of success) to steal the election and appointment Trump emperor for life. You can bet, if he survives, he's not leaving in 2024 or Ivanka will simply be named successor.

irwinirwinMember
@The Old Man posted:

Favorite headline of the day, "Belgian racing pigeon fetches record price of $1.9 million"

If I were the purchaser of this pigeon, I'd keep it far away from French restaurants.  What makes the bird Belgian anyway? Is that a subspecies of pigeon, like Chilean Sea Bass is to Sea Bass in general, or French Fries are to fries?  Or is it just an accident of birth?

The Old ManThe Old ManMember

From the LA Times: "G.M. Drops Its Support for Trump Climate Rollbacks and aligns With Biden--General Motors said it would no longer back President Trump’s lawsuit seeking to strip California of the power to set fuel economy standards.

"General Motors abandoned President Trump’s battle to nullify California’s fuel economy rules meant to curb global warming, the strongest sign yet that corporate America is moving on from Mr. Trump and adapting to an incoming Democratic administration."

Biden's not even in office yet, and in my view he may never be due to a possible coup, but things are already getting better.

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
@irwin posted:

She isn't the head of the Judiciary Committee. She is the highest ranking Democrat, thus in the minority.  She is giving up that position.

Thank you for the correction. Even as a Californian I say, happy days. Her actions during the last Supreme Court justice hearing, particularly at the end where  she praised Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham for his handling of the process and gave him a hug at the conclusion, were a disgrace.

irwinirwinMember
@The Old Man posted:

Thank you for the correction. Even as a Californian I say, happy days. Her actions during the last Supreme Court justice hearing, particularly at the end where  she praised Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham for his handling of the process and gave him a hug at the conclusion, were a disgrace.

1) The hug was unmasked. That was terrible. At 87 yrs old, she's in the high risk department. 2) She could have just hugged him in a private room, if she really felt the need. 3) If a male Senator came up to a female committee chair and hugged her, there would be a complaint of harassment.

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
@irwin posted:

1) The hug was unmasked. That was terrible. At 87 yrs old, she's in the high risk department. 2) She could have just hugged him in a private room, if she really felt the need. 3) If a male Senator came up to a female committee chair and hugged her, there would be a complaint of harassment.

Well, also she hugged the man who just picked her (and the public's) pocket, metaphorically speaking.

irwinirwinMember

Lincoln spoke of the proposition that "all men are created equal." Forgetting for the moment about the unigender term of "men", President Trump doesn't seem to accept that proposition at all.

Lincoln spoke of honoring the soldiers who fought for the US cause and who died at Gettysburg.  Trump would not go to the US military cemetery in France and has reportedly referred to soldiers as "suckers and losers."

Trump is the antithesis of Lincoln in these regards.

Lincoln's speech was under 300 words long and took under 2 minutes to deliver.  Doubtless, Trump will drone on and on.

flwinoflwinoMember
@winetarelli posted:

Rudy is going to Gettysburg tomorrow to give an address.  Trump is last-minute scheduled to be there.  Will it be the the oratorical and moral heir to the speech previously known as "The Gettysburg Address" (but which will now, obviously, be known as "One Of The Gettysburg Addresses")?  Stay tuned!

You got to be kidding.  A scumbag, speaking at hallowed ground

patespo1patespo1Member
@The Old Man posted:

Bill Barr today, "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."

A little late, and there is that nauseating "to date" qualifier, to save his reputation which is in tatters. In a similar vein I read that Rudy is trying to angle for a pre-pardon from Trump.

Rudy, Don Jr, Ivanka, and Eric all looking for pre-pardons.  Maybe one of the lawyers here can explain why you would need a pardon if you haven't committed any crimes

flwinoflwinoMember
@patespo1 posted:

Rudy, Don Jr, Ivanka, and Eric all looking for pre-pardons.  Maybe one of the lawyers here can explain why you would need a pardon if you haven't committed any crimes

Washington pardoned the Whiskey Rebellion folks

Ford Pardoned Nixon for any crimes he may have committed in office

Carter pardoned the draft dodgers.

None of these were ever indicted

irwinirwinMember
@flwino posted:

Washington pardoned the Whiskey Rebellion folks

Ford Pardoned Nixon for any crimes he may have committed in office

Carter pardoned the draft dodgers.

None of these were ever indicted

And Clinton pardoned a whole bunch of miscreants.  The most notorious of whom was Marc Rich, who was in the process of being prosecuted by Rudy Giuliani.  Marc Rich's wife donated a bunch of money to the Clinton library and to the Clinton and other Democratic campaigns. (Campaign contributions are a legalized form of bribery).  The pardon of Marc Rich was extremely sleazy and in keeping with Bill Clinton's persona.

The Old ManThe Old ManMember

"Brad Parscale says Trump would have 'won by a landslide' if he showed empathy during COVID"

I've said this for some time. As horrendous as he was if he had just taken it a little more seriously and shown a little compassion for the victims, he would have won in a walk. Fortunately for democracy he was born without a brain or a heart.

As I've said before he was Jane "Bryned" "Snow, what snow?"

patespo1patespo1Member
@flwino posted:

Washington pardoned the Whiskey Rebellion folks

Ford Pardoned Nixon for any crimes he may have committed in office

Carter pardoned the draft dodgers.

None of these were ever indicted

I guess my sarcasm was missed.  My point is, the abuse of the office for the last four years has been widespread and disgusting, so of course there were crimes committed by these folks.  But all of the Trump Humpers have been claiming everything has been above board the whole time. 

Hunter Biden is the crook! Look at his laptops!  Drug use!  Etc Etc.   But when it comes to the Trump kids, nada.  The hypocrisy is just so rich.

billhikebillhikeMember
@The Old Man posted:

"Brad Parscale says Trump would have 'won by a landslide' if he showed empathy during COVID"

I've said this for some time. As horrendous as he was if he had just taken it a little more seriously and shown a little compassion for the victims, he would have won in a walk. Fortunately for democracy he was born without a brain or a heart.

As I've said before he was Jane "Bryned" "Snow, what snow?"

I still remember that storm, and the dirty piles of snow lingering around my grammar school well into the spring. We lived in the Austin neighborhood, a few blocks from the border with Oak Park.

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The Old ManThe Old ManMember

I was in Rogers Park. I had dug out my parking space and created an opened sided igloo. I had, as required by Chicago snow code, patio furniture to put in my space when I left it. I believe that's when I ruined the transmission on my Dodge Duster trying to rock back and forth to get out of my space by having to hump over the tire track snow mounds that were formed in the street. Golden memories.

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W wine+artMember

Congratulations to the United States of America. COVID-19 is the leading cause of death in America over the last week! Just yesterday alone we had more Covid deaths than Japan has had in their totality. Impressive.

All this and our Thanksgiving spike is still 10-14 days away, just in time for Christmas. Americas current death rate projections will surpass heart disease and cancer combined on a daily average. Impressive, again.

Both Ted Cruz and the orange pile of dung in the Oval Office said time and time again that the “ media” wouldn’t be saying the Covid word after November 3rd. What they must have meant is they wouldn’t be saying the word again. The POS named Trump has not address the nation since he lost the election in a landslide  (Trump’s own words) about the worse health crisis in over 100 years. Not a single fucking news conference, not an all hands on deck news conference with medical experts, not showing his face once to answer questions about how America plans to hopefully give the needed 656 million needed injections over the next 9 months- year. Not a single ounce of empathy offered to the nation. Not one.

For Napa and other Trump supporters, you must truly be proud of your leader that has failed the USA in her greatest health crisis, all while spreading lies and saying ( his words) the justice department is in on his loss, the FBI ( his words) is in on his loss, the head of cyber security that was voted in by the senate unanimously is in on his loss,  ( his words) the Republican governor of Georgia is in on his loss and Trump wishes he would have never supported him ( his words) and the same in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, blah blah blah.

Let them eat cake .

G g-manMember
@billhike posted:

Remember how respected (deservedly so, at the time) this guy was after 9/11? Hard to believe he’s the same person. The dirt that 45 must have on him...

being here during that time, it was all a dog whistle.

he was always known as a bully, but the cop union loved him cuz he gave them free reign to do whatever they wanted.

He liked to tout how much time he spent at ground zero, but every opportunity was at a best a presser where he'd give a speech for an hour and he got out.  The firefighters were pretty pissed at him for saying he was there down there as long as they were and that he got just as exposed to the air quality dangers of the disaster site.  Hell, I will even say that I was breathing in more of that shit than Guilliani ever did.

I blame the main stream media and their endless pursuit to find "emotional pieces" and "heroes".

My belief still is that he's got a real bad case of syphillis so his mind is going.

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J jcocktostenMember
@g-man posted:

being here during that time, it was all a dog whistle.

he was always known as a bully, but the cop union loved him cuz he gave them free reign to do whatever they wanted.

He liked to tout how much time he spent at ground zero, but every opportunity was at a best a presser where he'd give a speech for an hour and he got out.  The firefighters were pretty pissed at him for saying he was there down there as long as they were and that he got just as exposed to the air quality dangers of the disaster site.  Hell, I will even say that I was breathing in more of that shit than Guilliani ever did.

I blame the main stream media and their endless pursuit to find "emotional pieces" and "heroes".

My belief still is that he's got a real bad case of syphillis so his mind is going.

Agree with this entirely and we were there also for much of his time as Mayor albeit pre-9-11. 

He did a lot to clean up the City but much of it was also based upon extremely racist policing and policies.  His popularity was in the toilet before 9-11 - I recall the NY marathon one year, probably 1999 - I think it was right before we moved - where he was relentlessly booed by the crowd - including Stef - as they went up 1st Avenue

W wine+artMember
@jcocktosten posted:

Agree with this entirely and we were there also for much of his time as Mayor albeit pre-9-11.

He did a lot to clean up the City but much of it was also based upon extremely racist policing and policies.  His popularity was in the toilet before 9-11 - I recall the NY marathon one year, probably 1999 - I think it was right before we moved - where he was relentlessly booed by the crowd - including Stef - as they went up 1st Avenue

Oh, no question. I was in the city often during his tenure and he was highly unpopular when he left office and was front page tabloid news often with his marriage.

All that said, as a monthly visitor to Manhattan during much of his tenure, I agree completely he helped clean up areas, or happened when he was mayor. Time Square/ 42nd Ave. were cesspools. I also agree we are now seeing he is not a man of character whatsoever. He is a whore wearing a suit badly.

I offer him the same empathy he and the POS writing him checks offer to other COVID victims. The White House is clearly a super spreader cesspool of whores and fools.

bmanbmanMember

The Republican government of Georgia's response - in court - to Trump's legal team's request that members of the electoral college put in place by the votes of Georgia voters be ignored and a team of pro-Trump electoral college electors be put in their place:

""Their claims would be extraordinary if true, but they are not. Much like the mythological “kraken” monster after which Plaintiffs have named this lawsuit, their claims of election fraud and malfeasance belong more to the kraken’s realm of mythos than they do to reality.""

They appended a footnote, which reads: “A ‘kraken’ is a mythical sea monster appearing in Scandinavian folklore, being ‘closely linked to sailors’ ability to tell tall tales.’”

The judge hearing the case said: “They want this court to substitute its judgment for that of two and a half million Georgia voters who voted for Joe Biden,” Batten said, "and this I am unwilling to do.”

The last person who still thinks Trump has any integrity or credibility left, please turn out the lights as you leave the building....
G g-manMember
@wine+art posted:

Oh, no question. I was in the city often during his tenure and he was highly unpopular when he left office and was front page tabloid news often with his marriage.

All that said, as a monthly visitor to Manhattan during much of his tenure, I agree completely he helped clean up areas, or happened when he was mayor. Time Square/ 42nd Ave. were cesspools. I also agree we are now seeing he is not a man of character whatsoever. He is a whore wearing a suit badly.

I offer him the same empathy he and the POS writing him checks offer to other COVID victims. The White House is clearly a super spreader cesspool of whores and fools.

acutally I recall it was bloomberg that really changed the time sq area to the extreme tourist desintation it is today.  Guilliani did massively step up the police patrols around time sq, which lead to an anchor tenant like Olive Garden to buy out a massive spot where a few dirty strip clubs used to be.  He gave alot of RE developers some sweet heart deals where they paid pretty much 0 taxes to the city.  A bold deal for sure, and i'll grant him a vision for that combined with the police presence really upped the area.

With that investment came alot of folks that finally had a big flashy neon and "affordable" full dining resto to visit when watching a broadway show.  Heck, I was at the Olive garden its first year of opening in time sq, I got a lap dance from the wait staff because it was my birthday =)

But one avenue over by port authority, it's still kinda dirty and grungy even as some fancy new chains have stepped up and moved in.

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
@jcocktosten posted:

Agree with this entirely and we were there also for much of his time as Mayor albeit pre-9-11.

He did a lot to clean up the City but much of it was also based upon extremely racist policing and policies.  His popularity was in the toilet before 9-11 - I recall the NY marathon one year, probably 1999 - I think it was right before we moved - where he was relentlessly booed by the crowd - including Stef - as they went up 1st Avenue

He once yelled at my friend for jaywalking.  Also, he was a lousy mayor, generally, who was told to put command and control underground in Brooklyn but insisted to have it in the WTC.

irwinirwinMember

This post election litigation is an utter waste of taxpayer resources.  If I lived in a state where the atty general was spending time and money on a frivolous case to undermine democracy, I'd consider filing a motion to intervene or a separate lawsuit to enjoin the AG from wasting my tax money.

What I find amazing about the cases is that, to date, while the judges have dismissed the cases rapidly and without hesitation, and been critical of those who have brought the cases, not one judge has sanctioned those who bring these frivolous cases or their attorneys under the powers of Federal Rule 11 or the state rules that are similar.

mneeley490mneeley490Member
@irwin posted:

This post election litigation is an utter waste of taxpayer resources.  If I lived in a state where the atty general was spending time and money on a frivolous case to undermine democracy, I'd consider filing a motion to intervene or a separate lawsuit to enjoin the AG from wasting my tax money.

What I find amazing about the cases is that, to date, while the judges have dismissed the cases rapidly and without hesitation, and been critical of those who have brought the cases, not one judge has sanctioned those who bring these frivolous cases or their attorneys under the powers of Federal Rule 11 or the state rules that are similar.

I've wondered about that, too.  I've always thought that if I were elected to the bench, I probably wouldn't last very long. Sanctions would be falling like rain.

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W wine+artMember
@The Old Man posted:

"Supreme Court Rejects Texas Suit Seeking to Subvert Election."

If I believed in God I'd say, God bless America. But it still ain't over folks.

It is and has been over.

The grifter and conman has known for weeks it is over. He has already started construction in Florida for his next residence. That said, he will continue to steal 75% of every dollar from the fools sending him money to continue ‘ the fight.’

The orange pile of dung isn’t going to stop the con, period. I wonder how much money Napa has sent post election? 🤣😂😂😅

G g-manMember
@wine+art posted:

Let the vaccinations begin!

I find it interesting that Pfizer-BioNTech were not part of the Warp Speed funding by their choice. I saw the Pfizer CEO say he felt the need to liberate their scientist from any bureaucracy and having to answer political questions. Wise!

well more properly.

OWS would mean the rights to the vaccine gets owned by the US govt, and pfizer would have preferred to have a say in how they sucker the rest of the world into paying for it, they're not that altruistic !

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bmanbmanMember
@csm posted:

In the best example ever of what have you done for me lately, San Francisco to remove Lincoln's (yes, that Lincoln) name from elementary school because he never proved black lives matter to him:

https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/...lincoln-high-school/

I'm just at a loss.

If you read the story you will see that a committee of the San Francisco school board has recommended that a number of school names be reconsidered, but no decision has been made.

The very first line of the story says: "San Francisco may remove Abraham Lincoln’s name from a high school.”

So your comment that they WILL do it is incorrect.

Always a good idea to read the stuff you share before sharing it.  And now you no longer need to be at a loss!

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
@bman posted:

If you read the story you will see that a committee of the San Francisco school board has recommended that a number of school names be reconsidered, but no decision has been made.

The very first line of the story says: "San Francisco may remove Abraham Lincoln’s name from a high school.”

So your comment that they WILL do it is incorrect.

Always a good idea to read the stuff you share before sharing it.  And now you no longer need to be at a loss!

If you're going to stir the pot you should always check your ingredients first.

C csmMember
@bman posted:

If you read the story you will see that a committee of the San Francisco school board has recommended that a number of school names be reconsidered, but no decision has been made.

The very first line of the story says: "San Francisco may remove Abraham Lincoln’s name from a high school.”

So your comment that they WILL do it is incorrect.

Always a good idea to read the stuff you share before sharing it.  And now you no longer need to be at a loss!

I read the damn article. I never used the word WILL in all caps or otherwise. Perhaps you could read too. And even though they are saying it’s because he never proved Black Lives Matters it seems to be more his administration’s treatment of indigenous people rather than blacks so it’s a weird recommendation to say the least.

At any rate though do you honestly think that even making the recommendation makes any sense?  Any at all? Seriously I’m asking. I remain at a loss as to how anyone could think that makes sense. Even you or TOM.

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bmanbmanMember
@csm posted:

I read the damn article. I never used the word WILL in all caps or otherwise. Perhaps you could read too. And even though they are saying it’s because he never proved Black Lives Matters it seems to be more his administration’s treatment of indigenous people rather than blacks so it’s a weird recommendation to say the least.

At any rate though do you honestly think that even making the recommendation makes any sense?  Any at all? Seriously I’m asking. I remain at a loss as to how anyone could think that makes sense. Even you or TOM.

Your post said "San Francisco to remove Lincoln's name from elementary school". How is that different from saying that span Francisco will remove his name?

Also, I never said it makes sense. Of course it doesn't. But I doubt it will happen. Even if your post said otherwise!  ;-).

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
@csm posted:

At any rate though do you honestly think that even making the recommendation makes any sense?  Any at all? Seriously I’m asking. I remain at a loss as to how anyone could think that makes sense. Even you or TOM.

Strawman, neither of us said it did. But here's something you said that says a lot about you, "Biden is a piece of garbage. He’s just slightly less ripe than Trump. Who frankly cleaned Biden’s clock in the debate."

R RothkoMember

It's getting interesting down here in Palm Beach about whether soon-to-be former President Trump can move into Mar-a-Lago.  Lots of residents are pointing out that the use agreement for Mar-a-Lago restricts the property to a social club and states that no one is allowed to reside in the club for more than 21 days a year.  So if Donald and Melania come down in January and intend to live there for more than 21 days, we may have another fun legal show on the Island.

W wine+artMember

Record cases, record hospitalizations and record deaths and the orange pile of dung says nothing nor does he give a damn. Dreadful first time unemployment filings this past week and Dump says nothing nor does he push for any stimulus relief as he doesn’t give a damn. This POS is truly a sick f£€k. He is as absent as Napa.

As for the Russian hack into the pentagon, it is news to him. Putin will soon not have his useful idiot to rely on.


Meanwhile, the renovations continue for his new home next month in Florida and the town has already put him on notice he cannot live there more than 21 days in a year. I also saw the city attorney this morning saying the helipad would be removed on January 20th. 😎

W wine+artMember
@Rothko posted:

It's getting interesting down here in Palm Beach about whether soon-to-be former President Trump can move into Mar-a-Lago.  Lots of residents are pointing out that the use agreement for Mar-a-Lago restricts the property to a social club and states that no one is allowed to reside in the club for more than 21 days a year.  So if Donald and Melania come down in January and intend to live there for more than 21 days, we may have another fun legal show on the Island.

Indeed. I saw the attorney for Palm Beach on TV this morning. He has been directed to be prepared to enforce all policies Dump agreed to when the property was converted to a private club. He also said the helipad would be removed on January 20th and all provisions allowed for Secret Service personnel, vehicles et al wouldn’t be allowed after the 20th and permits will be pulled.

C csmMember
@The Old Man posted:

Little innocent me? I was just asking a question. Hate always deserves to be called out, like calling Biden "a piece of garbage." As long as you shovel shit like that I'll admit to not being done with you.

Get a life dude.  It was a legitimate question.  I wasn't feigning innocence.

I wouldn't think that anyone believes removing Lincoln's name from a school makes any sense, but the recommendation was made, so at least someone does.

And seriously what's hateful about it?  I really dislike the guy and don't think he's a good man.  He only looks good next in comparison to Trump, which isn't saying much.

That being said, it's only my opinion.  If you can look at him and his record and think he's something other than what I called him independent of standing next to Trump then more power to you.

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G g-manMember
@csm posted:


And seriously what's hateful about it?  I really dislike

just curious how you distinguish between really dislike and the word hateful.



But I feel you're taking "political" talking points way too much to heart instead of looking at the real issues at hand, and that's alot of these public unions are getting paid way too much money to do things like form a board on renaming schools instead of, you know, teaching our kids.  Or how other unions spend way too much time talking about protecting the public, instead of actually protecting the public.

Anyhow, "you do you" but it doesn't make the wine in the glass taste sweeter by hating on things.

C csmMember

Hate is stronger than really dislike. I usually reserve that for people I’ve actually met.  I have a hard time saying I hate someone that I don’t know (Trudeau family is an exception).  Slight distinction perhaps but I think it exists.

And, for the record, I also called (well implied really as I didn’t state it explicitly) Trump a more ripe piece of garbage than Biden. It’s something I think but I wonder whether that also is hateful? Or is it not to those making the accusation because they agree with that assessment of DJT?  Curious.

Agree with your comment re unions and use of public funds.  The fact that anyone is investing resources in nonsense such as things of this nature is sad at best.  And I’ll continue doing me thank you. No one’s better at it than I.

The Old ManThe Old ManMember
@csm posted:


And, for the record, I also called (well implied really as I didn’t state it explicitly) Trump a more ripe piece of garbage than Biden. It’s something I think but I wonder whether that also is hateful?

It's sickening to compare a man of honor (who has his flaws) to a racist, bigoted, sexist, know-nothing grifter. Put I guess you call them as you see them, as obviously flawed as that observation is.

mneeley490mneeley490Member
@wine+art posted:

Indeed. I saw the attorney for Palm Beach on TV this morning. He has been directed to be prepared to enforce all policies Dump agreed to when the property was converted to a private club. He also said the helipad would be removed on January 20th and all provisions allowed for Secret Service personnel, vehicles et al wouldn’t be allowed after the 20th and permits will be pulled.

I'm sure Trump could stay as a squatter while his attorneys drag it out for a few years.

G g-manMember
@bman posted:

Apparently he owns three other homes there.

he technically owns 0 homes there because he claims th em all as private clubs, to deduct expenses on any repairs / maintanence he does on them.

be interesting how he argues his state taxes in NY court when they claim he fails the teddy bear test since you can't list mar-a-lago as a primary residence

bmanbmanMember
@g-man posted:

he technically owns 0 homes there because he claims th em all as private clubs, to deduct expenses on any repairs / maintanence he does on them.

be interesting how he argues his state taxes in NY court when they claim he fails the teddy bear test since you can't list mar-a-lago as a primary residence

Interesting.  I read that they were long-term rental properties.  I'm sure that whatever they are, he would consider himself too wonderful to live in them himself.  Perhaps he'll buy Bord-O's house!!

flwinoflwinoMember
@bman posted:

Interesting.  I read that they were long-term rental properties.  I'm sure that whatever they are, he would consider himself too wonderful to live in them himself.  Perhaps he'll buy Bord-O's house!!

I would hope that with a few years in jail, the Palm Beach house would be empty.    Would be nice to see a wide red tie on an orange jump suit.

W wine+artMember
@The Old Man posted:

Trump's Christmas Eve message, "I saved at least 8 Republican Senators, including Mitch, from losing in the last Rigged (for President) Election. Now they (almost all) sit back and watch me fight against a crooked and vicious foe, the Radical Left Democrats. I will NEVER FORGET!"

What a sicko.

It really is funny to watch this despicable f~£k being humiliated as the world watches and claps.

The courts have summarily dismissed his laughable lies, his own judges have unanimously giving him their middle finger, his self appointed AG and others tell the world in press conferences his is full of shit all while his grift continues to take money from Napa and his ilk.

The poor little emperor has no clothes yet he insists on having the world watch and laugh at his temper tantrums.

A landslide loss and an unimaginable popular vote loss of over 7 million all while his party gained seats throughout America. Fired!

N napacatMember
@wine+art posted:

It really is funny to watch this despicable f~£k being humiliated as the world watches and claps.

The courts have summarily dismissed his laughable lies, his own judges have unanimously giving him their middle finger, his self appointed AG and others tell the world in press conferences his is full of shit all while his grift continues to take money from Napa and his ilk.

The poor little emperor has no clothes yet he insists on having the world watch and laugh at his temper tantrums.

A landslide loss and an unimaginable popular vote loss of over 7 million all while his party gained seats throughout America. Fired!

God you are a fat, annoying, bald fuck.  Why keep injecting me into your posts.  If you want to write...write all you want. Your summations are downright foolish.  I’ve never given a penny to a political party.  Never will.

Merry Christmas

W wine+artMember
@napacat posted:

God you are a fat, annoying, bald fuck.  Why keep injecting me into your posts.  If you want to write...write all you want. Your summations are downright foolish.  I’ve never given a penny to a political party.  Never will.

Merry Christmas

Look what crawled out from under his Trump rock. You still flying your four more years BS you were selling? 🤣.  Oops!

I have no doubt you are very proud of your boy and his behavior since his ass kicking by Biden. Keep sending him your measly dollars for his defense fund!

winetarelliwinetarelliMember
@bman posted:

Your post said "San Francisco to remove Lincoln's name from elementary school". How is that different from saying that span Francisco will remove his name?

Also, I never said it makes sense. Of course it doesn't. But I doubt it will happen. Even if your post said otherwise!  ;-).

Here is something that really annoys me.

It seems a lot of sane, decent, small "l" liberal people have a really tough time criticizing -- or accepting criticism -- of goings on the the cultural far left; as if to do so would somehow undermine the premise (fact) that Trump is beyond contempt and that the national Republican Party has turned autocratic, anti-fact, anti-American, racist, nativist, anti-science, pro-death, and anti small "d" democratic.  All of which is demonstrably true.

The rejection of the criticism of the cultural far left by sane people rarely manifests itself as embracing the lunacy, but instead as belittling those who bring it up, denying it exists, or pointing out how astronomically worse the other side is.  (The last point of which, again, is obviously true.)

If I had to bet, I'd say SF is going to rename the school.  But, who knows, and it is incidental to my concern here.  Earlier this year the friggin Smithsonian came out with a list of things that are part of "white culture" that sustain "white supremacy" including: "rational linear thinking", "cause and effect relationships", "work before play", "planning for the future", "progress is best", and the list goes on.  The list was removed less than 48 hours later after public outcry over objectively good things being ascribed exclusively to white culture.  The initial CDC vaccination suggested guidelines had 87 million non healthcare essential workers (not just frontline essential workers) plus younger people with comorbidities suggested to get vaccinated before the elderly and assumed it would lead to 0.5% to 6.5% increased overall death rate but believed this was justified because more elderly are white so it would even the playing field.  (Yes, this really happened.)  Again, after two days of public outcry, the suggestions were revised to be sane.  The point of all of this is that cultural far-left groupthink and ideological capture is a real phenomenon.  And one I am increasingly concerned with.  The bajillion times worse that Trumpists are is true, but not everything can be about that and one way to get people to turn away from sanity is to tell them that the real things they are observing don't count or are just figments of their own imagination.

It can all be true.  Just because the biggest medical problem -- by an extraordinary, stupendous amount -- facing us today is COVID-19, that doesn't mean we don't need to be