flwino posted:pinotlvr posted:
Need to add Flo-I-DUH
Florida does not yet qualify to be included..and since the legislature is now recessed until next year, it can't join these illustrious moronic states until next year.
flwino posted:pinotlvr posted:
Need to add Flo-I-DUH
Florida does not yet qualify to be included..and since the legislature is now recessed until next year, it can't join these illustrious moronic states until next year.
Not sure what the criteria was for the pink states, although it looks like recent anti-choice legislation may be one filter. There are many other states which should be on the list, including my neighbor WVA if dumbfuckery is the definition.
Yes... there are MANY wonderful people in all these states. My recent travels through the southeast has reinforced this in my mind without a doubt.
Most of these states also have awful, restrictive state governments. Saying that there are good people in the US, and ignoring all the horrid things that many others do and believe, is TYPICAL Faux News simplification and misdirection. It's not a zero sum argument.
pinotlvr, quick question; is Washington DC pink and therefore the capitol of Dumbfuckistan, or just red... and embarrassing?
PH
PH, you are correct, the pink area represents just the recent anti-choice legislation for those states...either heartbeat bill or both heartbeat bill and without rape/incest exception. I had to include TN even though they passed a trigger bill that only kicks in with changes in federal law, because well they are surrounded and also...hey, it’s TN...and I can’t stand Vol fans lol.
if the point was pure dumbfuckery then, yes, more would be included. Of course DC would always be included I mean even if the resident in the whit house was different, Congress has been inept for as long as I can remember.
pinotlvr posted:flwino posted:pinotlvr posted:
Need to add Flo-I-DUH
Florida does not yet qualify to be included..and since the legislature is now recessed until next year, it can't join these illustrious moronic states until next year.
Just advance us now, for sure the idiots will follow the Humpty Dumpty
bman posted:napacat posted:I agree completely. At least 65,853,514 damn good people in the U.S.!
and 62,984,828 That agree with NapaCat. Majority rules!! Yeah
flwino posted:bman posted:napacat postedYou guys are a bunch of elitist idiots. There are damn good people in the U.S.
I agree completely. At least 65,853,514 damn good people in the U.S.!
and 62,984,828 That agree with NapaCat. Majority rules!! Yeah
I bet - hope! - a lot fewer than that today!
napacat posted:
So your reply is basically don't call people idiots you idiot?
I suspect that the map thing is an attempt at humor. Not a very good one, since they left off South Carolina and Arkansas
Darn auto-correct! It keeps making me say something I didn't Nintendo.
Does a Congressional subpoena mean anything these days? I'm perplexed.
PH
Random and Off Topic
Our dog was sitting by the sliding glass door last night while neighbors were blazing through some weed. Think the pup got the munchies like humans?
Democratic debate coming up soon. Governor of my state, Jay Inslee, just squeaked by with barely enough support to participate. Whatever you do, don't vote for this idiot.
mneeley490 posted:Democratic debate coming up soon. Governor of my state, Jay Inslee, just squeaked by with barely enough support to participate. Whatever you do, don't vote for this idiot.
Will do!! There are a lot of gov's that will not get my vote
wineismylife posted:Random and Off Topic
People started lining up in Orlando for Trump's Orlando visit as early as 2:30am this morning for a rally that is at 8pm tomorrow (Tuesday).
I'm like...do this people even have jobs?
pinotlvr posted:People started lining up in Orlando for Trump's Orlando visit as early as 2:30am this morning for a rally that is at 8pm tomorrow (Tuesday).
I'm like...do this people even have jobs?
Same thing for the Raptors parade this morning.
Yeah... but the Raptors actually accomplished something.
PH
Police estimated a crowd of nearly 2 million along the parade route and at City Hall for the speeches.
what!!!?? Trump has done more than any president in history....
more; golfing, lies, firing, government debt, lawsuits, animosity, distrust, divisiveness.... such a great job. 4 more years!!
how about the golfer that got DQ;d for running out of balls this week!
I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
Can't wait for these debates either. Should be great fun. Not worried about any of these Democratic candidates. Free health care for all Illegals and it is no longer a crime to cross the border illegally. Definitely heading in the right direction.
napacat posted:patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
Can't wait for these debates either. Should be great fun. Not worried about any of these Democratic candidates. Free health care for all Illegals and it is no longer a crime to cross the border illegally. Definitely heading in the right direction.
Can you provide evidence that any, never mind all of the candidates said they supported free health care for all illegals? Links to sources please.
Also, no country that is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention considers it a crime for refugees seeking asylum to cross borders to safe countries anywhere they can.
bman posted:napacat posted:patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
Can't wait for these debates either. Should be great fun. Not worried about any of these Democratic candidates. Free health care for all Illegals and it is no longer a crime to cross the border illegally. Definitely heading in the right direction.
Can you provide evidence that any, never mind all of the candidates said they supported free health care for all illegals? Links to sources please.
Also, no country that is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention considers it a crime for refugees seeking asylum to cross borders to safe countries anywhere they can.
It was a sweeping generalization. In more of a reference to Kamala who agreed to that. Some of the others did not. But I believe for the most part, all raised their hand that it should be a civil offense. You are not a refugee for wanting to move to a better country. And you are to seek safe refuge in the first country you land in...not pass through to the country of your choice.
napacat posted:bman posted:napacat posted:patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
Can't wait for these debates either. Should be great fun. Not worried about any of these Democratic candidates. Free health care for all Illegals and it is no longer a crime to cross the border illegally. Definitely heading in the right direction.
Can you provide evidence that any, never mind all of the candidates said they supported free health care for all illegals? Links to sources please.
Also, no country that is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention considers it a crime for refugees seeking asylum to cross borders to safe countries anywhere they can.
you are to seek safe refuge in the first country you land in...not pass through to the country of your choice.
Not exactly. Refugees seeking asylum are supposed to claim asylum in the first SAFE country they enter. Mexico hardly qualifies, especially since many are fleeing criminal violence, much of which is perpetrated by Mexican gangs.
Did I mention that I was a visa officer for 30 years, six of which were in Central America, most recently in Guatemala 2010-2012?
what of the refugees from Syria that crossed 10-15 borders to get to germany where it was safe, and jobs.
flwino posted:what of the refugees from Syria that crossed 10-15 borders to get to germany where it was safe, and jobs.
Great example of the safe country concept. This, from the UNHCR website, explains the concept further:
""a refugee/asylum-seeker may be returned to the country of first asylum if the person:
In the case at hand the country of first asylum would be Mexico, which I'm not sure could tick any of the boxes above, certainly not the third one.
bman posted:napacat posted:bman posted:napacat posted:patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
Can't wait for these debates either. Should be great fun. Not worried about any of these Democratic candidates. Free health care for all Illegals and it is no longer a crime to cross the border illegally. Definitely heading in the right direction.
Can you provide evidence that any, never mind all of the candidates said they supported free health care for all illegals? Links to sources please.
Also, no country that is a signatory to the UN Refugee Convention considers it a crime for refugees seeking asylum to cross borders to safe countries anywhere they can.
you are to seek safe refuge in the first country you land in...not pass through to the country of your choice.
Not exactly. Refugees seeking asylum are supposed to claim asylum in the first SAFE country they enter. Mexico hardly qualifies, especially since many are fleeing criminal violence, much of which is perpetrated by Mexican gangs.
Did I mention that I was a visa officer for 30 years, six of which were in Central America, most recently in Guatemala 2010-2012?
Bman...you are obviously qualified to speak on the subject. I think you just called Mexico a “shithole” country though! The current immigration policy is a joke.
napacat posted:bman posted:Not exactly. Refugees seeking asylum are supposed to claim asylum in the first SAFE country they enter. Mexico hardly qualifies, especially since many are fleeing criminal violence, much of which is perpetrated by Mexican gangs.
Did I mention that I was a visa officer for 30 years, six of which were in Central America, most recently in Guatemala 2010-2012?
Bman...you are obviously qualified to speak on the subject. I think you just called Mexico a “shithole” country though! The current immigration policy is a joke.
Not at all, Mexico is wonderful. But it is not safe for refugees attempting to make a life there, as the rule of law doesn't apply and cops are worse than criminals in many places. And current US immigration policy is a joke in some respects but probably not the ones you are referring to. Signatories to the UN Refugee Convention have certain obligations, which are the basis of most of the criticisms I see of US immigration policy, from the right at least. Criticisms from the left tend to be that the US is not meeting those obligations. And of course refugee policy is just one of many areas of immigration policy. It's complicated!
patespo1 posted:I would love to see Kamala Harris debate 45, although I'm sure it would be so one sided you couldn't even call it a debate.
As long as Orange Man stays behind his podium, and not slinking around in the background when Harris is speaking.
Happy Bobby Bonilla day!
Tanks and jet flyovers in downtown DC for the fourth? Seriously, how small is it?
What a farce, including those who attend. If you want to honor the military, fix the VA and provide better care.
I wouldn’t fault attendees in general, as I’m sure many families planned for the parade and fireworks before the ignorant lowlife hijacked it. We had a friend get married in Maryland on July 3, 2011 and took advantage of being in the region to be in D.C. on Independence Day. Despite the swamp weather we had a great time.
Weather report is that a severe thunderstorm will start just before his scheduled speech. If that happens, wanna bet he finds a way to blame the Democrats? Or Obama? Or Hillary? Or Mueller? Or...….
Oh no!! His speech has been delayed due to weather! And many fewer people thank expected have shown up, perhaps due to the weather! So sad!
If I was in the military and was “asked” to be part of the parade, I’d tell friends and family to stay home.
The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
Good post. I watched it...nothing at all wrong with the speech...quite the contrary. Read the Declaration again today. What a great country! How do some of you find fault with everything? Have a glass wine and enjoy!
napacat posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
Good post. I watched it...nothing at all wrong with the speech...quite the contrary. Read the Declaration again today. What a great country! How do some of you find fault with everything? Have a glass wine and enjoy!
#DummiesGonnaBeDummies!!!
thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
napacat posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
Good post. I watched it...nothing at all wrong with the speech...quite the contrary. Read the Declaration again today. What a great country! How do some of you find fault with everything? Have a glass wine and enjoy!
Nothing wrong with the speech? Even the part where he said the Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War? You may want to check your history and look up when airplanes were invented
Anyone who thinks yesterday's DC spectacle was about anything other than glorifying Trump, has not been paying attention to the guy for the last few decades, and the last couple of years in particular. Anyone care to bet that scenes from yesterday will not/not appear in his campaign in some way?
If it was a truly non-partisan event the VIP tickets would have been distributed by lottery or by a non-partisan third party, if the latter even continues to exist in Trump's America.....
doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
napacat posted:doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
God you are a moron. Trump doesn't have to like John McCain; he has to respect what he did. While Trump got a draft deferment for a bone spur that he can't even remember what foot was affected, McCain was denying early release from the Hanoi hellhole to stay with his men. Perhaps the biggest insult to the military in US history: "He's not a hero. He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured, OK?" And you think this pig is a good president?
The Old Man posted:napacat posted:doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
God you are a moron. Trump doesn't have to like John McCain; he has to respect what he did. While Trump got a draft deferment for a bone spur that he can't even remember what foot was affected, McCain was denying early release from the Hanoi hellhole to stay with his men. Perhaps the biggest insult to the military in US history: "He's not a hero. He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured, OK?" And you think this pig is a good president?
Old Man, seriously, stop insulting pigs!!!
It was not a military parade, the military vehicles were only on display. There were multiple flyovers, which is not much different than done during sports games. I thought the flyovers were pretty cool.
wineart 2 posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
God you are a moron. Trump doesn't have to like John McCain; he has to respect what he did. While Trump got a draft deferment for a bone spur that he can't even remember what foot was affected, McCain was denying early release from the Hanoi hellhole to stay with his men. Perhaps the biggest insult to the military in US history: "He's not a hero. He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured, OK?" And you think this pig is a good president?
Old Man, seriously, stop insulting pigs!!!
You're right. I have a friend in Las Vegas who rescues pigs and other "pets" that people change their minds about. Either Napa was trying to sneak in a strawman argument (no one said Trump needed to "like" McCain) or Napa's a dumbass; no in between.
thistlintom posted:It was not a military parade, the military vehicles were only on display. There were multiple flyovers, which is not much different than done during sports games. I thought the flyovers were pretty cool.
Tom... I think you're being just a little bit disingenuous here. Sure it wasn't a military parade. That said, there would have been one if trump had been able to pull it off. He's been talking about doing one for years. I also like flyovers, and am a big sucker for military aviation. I go to airshows whenever I can. If you can name me ONE sporting event that had a B-2 bomber, F-22 Raptor, F-35C, a VC-25 and the Blue Angels all together, I'll allow you the analogy. Otherwise, it doesn't pass the sniff test. Sorry.
Interestingly, the large assembly of air power came just days after a F-18 Super Hornet appearance at a Michigan airshow was cancelled due to budgetary shortfalls in Naval aviation. The fact that several million dollars was taken from Park Service funds slated to improve our parks is an additional example of the tone deaf egotism displayed by trump and his administration.
PH
Shakira is super sexy.
For all the gnashing of teeth about what the Fourth of July celebration was going to be like, from a military parade to a political event, it was actually a pretty good event. Yes it had a big flyover, but the whole nation gets to enjoy seeing it and it is a show of support for the military. Trump's speech was not political and was fitting for the celebration. The turnout was pretty good, despite the weather.
I'm not getting into Trump's mind of woulda coulda, just commenting on what actually happened and it was pretty good.
Saw the fireworks from New York and they were spectacular. Really cool how it looked like a river of fireworks, pouring over the bridge a few times during the event.
The Old Man posted:napacat posted:doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
God you are a moron. Trump doesn't have to like John McCain; he has to respect what he did. While Trump got a draft deferment for a bone spur that he can't even remember what foot was affected, McCain was denying early release from the Hanoi hellhole to stay with his men. Perhaps the biggest insult to the military in US history: "He's not a hero. He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured, OK?" And you think this pig is a good president?
What a tool of the left you are and an intolerant old fool. Why does he have to respect him? And who are you to decide he has to? He does not like him...that’s that! Keep getting your pants in a wad....as you will have four more years to tell President Trump how he should think and act. I believe your in a border city? Take any asylum seeking migrants in?
This is from a well-respected poster on Quora, who participated in several brutal conflicts while serving in the military of an Eastern European country:
“It may not look like this to everyone who was watching it, but I think that the military was able to save its reputation (of being unpolitical). Their contribution to Trump’s 4th of July celebration was a subtle, but clear F—k You! towards the president.
Everyone who is familiar with Army culture could see the signs:
Tanks.
Trump wanted tanks and the army gave him a couple of badly maintained M-2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles. One of the Bradleys had its left chain not adjusted and rather loose. I don’t know how they allowed this vehicle to leave the barracks like that, I can just guess that they didn’t give a flying F—k about the event and that it had the lowest priority.
Aircraft.
The Brits have a saying: “You do it properly or you don’t do it at all.” Maybe I’m a little spoiled from having watched too many military parades, but what the US military came up with on that day was rather poor. Three aircraft here, five there, but most of the time, the sky was clear. Oh yeah, and one B-2 bomber! The “Blue Angels” appearance looked a bit better but was terribly timed.
Attendance of the military leadership.
Almost all chiefs of the branches sent their 2nd in commands to the event. They said that they already had planned to be at other events, but this is crap. When the president calls, you go there; unless, of course, you really, really don’t want to be there.
Costs.
The US has the biggest military in the world, but I’ve seen better displays of military force from Germany (the most anti-militaristic country in the world) and even Croatia. They said the whole event had cost 92 million USD, I don’t know for what.
I’m absolutely convinced that the US can do a much better show, with half of the price-tag. Let some Navy SEALs rappel from a helicopter, better from 25 helicopters. Show some infantry (without the heavy equipment), the crowds adore this kind of stuff.
It looks like nobody in Trump’s circle had asked the military for their input and they weren’t willing to give it without a formal request.
All military forces in the world are leaning conservative and the US military is no exception. Most soldiers might be pro-Trump, but there’s a line that no one likes to cross: politicizing the military is a big no-no.
The US military has shown how much they appreciate politicized events such as Trump’s 4th of July celebration and I'm sure that maybe not the President, but at least some of the people around him have understood the message: leave us out of this!”
napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:doubled posted:thistlintom posted:The military is a key part of why we are a free nation and continue with our independence. Why not celebrate them and their sacrifices as a part of our celebration of independence? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before.
We (the US) celebrate its military and show their appreciation of their sacrifices in a number of ways ... Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, in baseball games, in football games, etc. Only dictators and an inept president have military parades. If only the cost and effort of putting together this dumb show of penis envy went into providing better care for veterans, the country would be in a much better place.
This is the only president that chastises a former POW in McCain. Care to explain why?
Didn't see 100% of it...the part about the airport was obviously incorrect...if reading I wonder how that could have been wrong. I still have no problem with the speech at all. Would not of had a problem if Obama would have done the same thing.
As for McCain, why does Trump have to like him. Disliking him is completely his prerogative. Does not take away that the man was an obvious was hero.
God you are a moron. Trump doesn't have to like John McCain; he has to respect what he did. While Trump got a draft deferment for a bone spur that he can't even remember what foot was affected, McCain was denying early release from the Hanoi hellhole to stay with his men. Perhaps the biggest insult to the military in US history: "He's not a hero. He's a hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured, OK?" And you think this pig is a good president?
What a tool of the left you are and an intolerant old fool. Why does he have to respect him? And who are you to decide he has to? He does not like him...that’s that! Keep getting your pants in a wad....as you will have four more years to tell President Trump how he should think and act. I believe your in a border city? Take any asylum seeking migrants in?
I'm may be an old fool by I know that it's "you're" not "your." And yes I'm intolerant of racism, bigotry, sexism, know-nothingism, white nationalists, terrorizing little immigrant children by removing them from their parents and putting them in squalid conditions and everything else the demagogue in chief represents. I don't know anything about you except you support a "man" who embodies all of those things.
Again reread the sentence he actually spoke; it's NOT just about McCain, but about POW's in general: "I like people who weren't captured, OK?" This from a "man" whose rich father helped him dodge the draft. Hang your head in shame for supporting this sick aberration in US history.
Speaking of the Brits, I thought this piece provided a thorough exposure of Trump's character or more accurately, lack of character. This is the person who represents America to the world and (supposedly) stands as a role model to future generations. SAD!
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
bman posted:Speaking of the Brits, I thought this piece provided a thorough exposure of Trump's character or more accurately, lack of character. This is the person who represents America to the world and (supposedly) stands as a role model to future generations. SAD!
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
While Nate was being insightful and obviously accurate, he was also being kind as most Brits are.
On a side note, I so wish the old man would not have taken the grammatical pen to the empty suits post. It is LOL funny watching him make the same elementary school mistakes over and over again. He is beyond predictable much like his cult hero. 😂
who will win Shrek or Justin Bieber?
bman posted:Speaking of the Brits...
What an eloquent take-down.
PH
purplehaze posted:bman posted:Speaking of the Brits...
What an eloquent take-down.
PH
Now the US will not speak to the Brits.
flwino posted:purplehaze posted:bman posted:Speaking of the Brits...
What an eloquent take-down.
PH
Now the US will not speak to the Brits.
Could someone please leak reports from all the ambassadors? No doubt they've all sent similar reports, since what the British ambassador reported is obvious to anyone with eyes and ears. Then Trump would stop talking to us all and we could get on with our lives.
bman posted:flwino posted:purplehaze posted:bman posted:Speaking of the Brits...
What an eloquent take-down.
PH
Now the US will not speak to the Brits.
Could someone please leak reports from all the ambassadors? No doubt they've all sent similar reports, since what the British ambassador reported is obvious to anyone with eyes and ears. Then Trump would stop talking to us all and we could get on with our lives.
Exactly. Being called inept and clumsy obviously is one of the kinder descriptions of him within the world community. Now, world bullies and dictators know how to play the simple minded one in the White House. They too must be laughing their asses off as they blow smoke up his fat ass knowing he actually buys such. What could be as amusing than the “ love letters” being exchanged between Putin’s poodle and the murderous dictator of North Korea? Kim has played Putin’s poodle like a cheap fiddle. North Korea has a GDP the size of Wyoming yet Kim has the fake president kissing his ring as the world watches.
bman posted:Speaking of the Brits, I thought this piece provided a thorough exposure of Trump's character or more accurately, lack of character. This is the person who represents America to the world and (supposedly) stands as a role model to future generations. SAD!
Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
"A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
Hilarious and accurate. Thanks for posting.
I’m considering using the final sentence as my signature line.
I'm considering this:
"He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege."
wineart 2 posted:...yet Kim has the fake president kissing his ring as the world watches...
Kim does not wear a ring. There is kissing going on elsewhere, however. Maybe some anatomical area with a "ringlike" shape?
PH
Long shot, but glad to see it. Semper Fi, Col. McGrath. I'll send you a few bucks just on principle.
PH
billhike posted:I’m considering using the final sentence as my signature line.
"...rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid."
I like this line a lot. Says much.
PH
purplehaze posted:Long shot, but glad to see it. Semper Fi, Col. McGrath. I'll send you a few bucks just on principle.
PH
Send her all you got. She'll need it. That was tough to even watch it is so loaded with hypocrisy and the usual talking points. Great that she served and was a fighter pilot as well...very noble. But blaming Mitch for how Washington currently works is a bit of a stretch. Has he been there too long...for sure. Just look at what they tried with Justice Kavanaugh, some of these Democrats should have charges brought against them.
And he certainly answered that question about his ancestors owning slaves pretty spot on yesterday.
Mitch the Witch. The Senate [IMHO] should be forced to take up every bill passed be the House. That is a democracy. Time for him to retire!
flwino posted:Mitch the Witch. The Senate [IMHO] should be forced to take up every bill passed be the House. That is a democracy. Time for him to retire!
Mitch is fantastic...great move on blocking Garland. Democrats would have done the exact same thing if they were in power. What a great stance that paid off beautifully.
That said he has been there too long . Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?
I have tried to avoid responding to your inanity directly over the past many months, but I just can't let this last post stand unaddressed.
1) "Mitch is fantastic... That said he has been there too long."
What the hell are you saying? If he's fantastic, he should stick around as long as his "fantastic-ness" continues. And in case you're not aware, his current approval rating among registered voters in Kentucky is 33%. Even his own constituents don't think he's fantastic. History will ultimately judge his contributions to our nation, and history will not be kind.
2) "Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?"
What the hell does this mean? This sentence, even given its absolutely atrocious construction makes absolutely no sense. If English is not your first language, I'll give you a gentle pass, but otherwise, you write like a lazy 4th grader. A step up from your president, though. I'll give you that much.
Seriously, napacat. You just might want to refrain from posting when you've been drinking. Or just refrain from posting, period.
PH
purplehaze posted:I have tried to avoid responding to your inanity directly over the past many months, but I just can't let this last post stand unaddressed.
1) "Mitch is fantastic... That said he has been there too long."
What the hell are you saying? If he's fantastic, he should stick around as long as his "fantastic-ness" continues. And in case you're not aware, his current approval rating among registered voters in Kentucky is 33%. Even his own constituents don't think he's fantastic. History will ultimately judge his contributions to our nation, and history will not be kind.
2) "Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?"
What the hell does this mean? This sentence, even given its absolutely atrocious construction makes absolutely no sense. If English is not your first language, I'll give you a gentle pass, but otherwise, you write like a lazy 4th grader. A step up from your president, though. I'll give you that much.
Seriously, napacat. You just might want to refrain from posting when you've been drinking. Or just refrain from posting, period.
PH
As I've said; a terrible debater with unclear thoughts and pointless points. One shouldn't even take the time to respond to such inane drivel, but I know sometimes it's hard not to.
The Old Man posted:As I've said; a terrible debater with unclear thoughts and pointless points. One shouldn't even take the time to respond to such inane drivel, but I know sometimes it's hard not to.
Hmm... unclear thoughts and pointless points. Sounds eerily familiar, TOM. Wonder who his inspiration might be? I quit responding to him a long while ago because of the lack of logic and clarity. I wonder if he even drinks wine anymore? I'm sure there are other places where he can babble.
PH
At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
billhike posted:At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
Try to keep up with how many in his administration have resigned (or been indicted); it's truly breathtaking. I think right now there's about seven positions filled with "acting" administrators. Such chaos and ineptitude.
The Old Man posted:billhike posted:At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
Try to keep up with how many in his administration have resigned (or been indicted); it's truly breathtaking. I think right now there's about seven positions filled with "acting" administrators. Such chaos and ineptitude.
Putin’s poodle entire administration has been nothing more than a cesspool. The lack of proper vetting and protocol is not surprising with a conman in the White House, not to mention the amount of people with security clearances despite our intelligence community advising against such.
But the stock market!
billhike posted:But the stock market!
An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to go before equaling Obama’s performance.
Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%. Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%.
But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important, 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years.
wineart 2 posted:billhike posted:But the stock market!
An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama.
Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%. Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%.
But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years.
But her emails!
Benghazi!!
Whitewater!!!
billhike posted:At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
YUP!! Good old Palm Beach County again. All this $hit is here. Would love to hear from Rothko re this crap. He must know many of the players.
bman posted:wineart 2 posted:billhike posted:But the stock market!
An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama.
Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%. Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%.
But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years.
But her emails!
Benghazi!!
Whitewater!!!
... and talking about the inept president and his band of fools; Mnuchin now has issued a warning that America is running out of cash far sooner than expected. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the deficit jumped 23.1% since the tax cuts have taken effect. This, plus the Republicans massive spending package will produce a record trillion dollar deficit compared to the $779 billion from a year ago per the CBO.
Conservative fiscal hawks my ass!!! This administration is nothing short of a kangaroo court.
Napacat will donate his share of the debt to us. No worry
The solution to the deficit problem is quite easy. Mexico will pay for it.
irwin posted:The solution to the deficit problem is quite easy. Mexico will pay for it.
The daily lies that come out of that mans mouth.....
An awful president, and an awful human (DNA test pending to confirm status, along with his promised tax returns and missing school records)
Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant or knowledgeably awful to boot. A pox on them all.
PH
purplehaze posted:An awful president, and an awful human (DNA test pending to confirm status, along with his promised tax returns and missing school records)
Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant or knowledgeably awful to boot. A pox on them all.
PH
Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant AND knowledgeably awful to boot. A pox on them all.
Still love the Trump admin. Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
You guys are clowns! They should be prosecuted or removed from office!
PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow?
As I said, terrible debater. "Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! "
No, you should be on the side that calls out a man/baby president who's a racist, a bigot, and sexist, a know-nothing and a demagogue.
And lay off the teenage use of exclamation marks! I suggest reading The Elements of Style by Strunk and White before you post again and embarrass yourself.
napacat posted:Still love the Trump admin. Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
You guys are clowns! They should be prosecuted or removed from office!
PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow?
Still love the Trump admin.
Which Trump administration, specifically, do you love? The one he started with, or the one with almost 20 "acting" key staffers currently in: DOD, Labor, Homeland Security, WH Chief of Staff, Small Business Administration, UN Ambassador, Office of Management and Budget, FAA, OSHA, FDA, CFCP, FEMA, EEOC, ICE, USCIS and CBP? trump hasn't drained the swamp. He's added to it with people who are likely un-confirmable, and who he can fire when they irritate him. He can then say, "I hardly knew them," and move on to the next third rate hack who's willing to go to work for this inept dumpster fire of an administration.
It appears that the only consistent parties to this abomination of a presidency are Trump and Pence. So, please tell me, what do you love about Trump, the pussy grabbing serial cheater, porn star payoff expert, multiple bankrupt, dictator ass-kissing, fiscally irresponsible, racist, bumbling and inept buffoon? Or his feckless VP? Specifics, please.
Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
You guys are clowns! They should be prosecuted or removed from office!
Another brilliantly constructed paragraph. Exactly who are "you guys?" And who should be prosecuted or removed from office, and under either what criminal or civil basis? Specifics, please.
what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...
If you'd actually made a cogent argument for term limits, I'd consider it. Why not try that, with some logical thoughts? What do you like about McConnell? His ability to obstruct meaningful legislation? His inability to cross the aisle and build consensus with the minority party? Specifics, please. I know that you trumpistas love that he blocked Garland's nomination. Please explain how the turtle's purported "election year" reasoning was reversed when he was asked what he'd do if there was a SC nomination now? Specifics, please. And no, owning the "libs," isn't a cogent argument. Sorry.
..too difficult of a thought process to follow?
When in doubt, in true FauxNews fashion, resort to ad hominem attacks. I can assure you, there is nothing that you post here that is difficult for any of us to process. Quite the opposite. You're a walking, talking product of the Breitbart/Infowars/FauxNews echo-chamber. If you weren't representative of 30% my beloved country, you'd be laughable.
PH
purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
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We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
bman posted:We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
I'm not into soccer, so you'll never guess what I do--I don't read those threads. In addition I'm really not into getting arguments anymore but Napa, and his ilk, really need to be called out for their mindless support of this sickening threat to democracy.
The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
Gentlemen, clearly English is not the empty suits first language and he only has a double digit IQ. Obviously Putin’s poodle Twitter vocabulary is his level of understanding. Period.
When facts are stated, he isn’t capable of addressing them nor is he interested in facts to begin with. Logic, facts, critical thinking and the nuance of debate are clearly beyond his mental gymnastic ability.
One of the early questions posed to the empty suit was, “ what does MAGA mean?” Is that the time women couldn’t vote? Is that a time when only white men were in power? Is that a time when the thinking was a catholic couldn’t be president? Was it a time when a woman could be at the very top of her law class yet not be offered a position at a world class law firm? Perhaps it was when people of color couldn’t eat, drink or even stay where white people did such. Was it a time when Jewish people couldn’t belong to the same country clubs? Was it a time when anyone with a different sexual preference could be put in jail, refused employment, employment benefits and mistreated without consequence? Perhaps it means it was a time that it was okay for your ancestors to immigrate to the United States because they looked like the people in power. Just exactly which decades does the term refer to was a question that the empty suit never answered.
I am admitting I’m not proofreading my post as Wimbledon has already started without me. 🙃
Napacat PWD!
Y'all crack me up!
bman posted:We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.
winoca posted:bman posted:We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.
I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall. And he unfriended me. It did make me sad.
I question Twitters policy. They have removed for racist comments etc. With the Buffoons comments today, would these qualify to have his account purged? Hope so.
bman posted:winoca posted:bman posted:We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.
I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall. And he unfriended me. It did make me sad.
Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers.
Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂
wineart 2 posted:bman posted:winoca posted:bman posted:We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it?
I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.
I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall. And he unfriended me. It did make me sad.
Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers.
Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂
Re your last comment, as it happens....
The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive.
napacat posted:You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive.
Refugee claimants are not illegals. We discussed this some time ago. I thought you understood.
bman posted:napacat posted:You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive.
Refugee claimants are not illegals. We discussed this some time ago. I thought you understood.
You thought he understood? Stop it.😂
wineart 2 posted:bman posted:napacat posted:You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive.
Refugee claimants are not illegals. We discussed this some time ago. I thought you understood.
You thought he understood? Stop it.😂
Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!
PH
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:bman posted:napacat posted:You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive.
Refugee claimants are not illegals. We discussed this some time ago. I thought you understood.
You thought he understood? Stop it.😂
Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!
PH
I gotta be me......
napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
flwino posted:billhike posted:At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
YUP!! Good old Palm Beach County again. All this $hit is here. Would love to hear from Rothko re this crap. He must know many of the players.
Sorry, I've been out of the country. What did I miss?
Rothko posted:flwino posted:billhike posted:At least the swamp got a little more drained today...
YUP!! Good old Palm Beach County again. All this $hit is here. Would love to hear from Rothko re this crap. He must know many of the players.
Sorry, I've been out of the country. What did I miss?
Epstein. Palm Beach. Acosta & Kirchner fiasco
figured that you knew some of the players in this fiasco
I know of them. Don't really know any of them personally, although I may have met one or two over the years.
The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Napa, you clearly are a racist yourself, or completely devoid of any intellectual depth. Which is it? Perhaps both...
Let’s make it simple for you. When anyone says and or refers to, “ Go back to where you came from.” Nothing more is needed. Period. This is the language of white supremacist and has been used by such against people of color, different religions, different sexual preferences et al for generations of blatantly and willfully ignorant, hateful and scared people.
Plus for you to say, “ other than three were born in the US” is an example of you being intellectually bankrupt. Seriously. Your defense is invalid the very moment you utter those words! Go back to where you came from, you Americans. 😂 Stop your shameful defense there.
The fake president hates John McCain because he was everything he could never be. Deeply respected by both sides of the House, an American hero who served his country with great honor and bravery. He too was a man of privilege, yet he served without fear and suffered lifelong injuries from such. He clearly was bipolar to the coward known as Trump in ever way. Yet, did he tell McCain to go back to where he was from? How about Bernie, a self confessed and proud socialist. Did he tell Bernie to go back to where he was from? Of course not. They are and were lilly white.
wineart 2 posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Napa, you clearly are a racist yourself, or completely devoid of any intellectual depth. Which is it? Perhaps both...
Let’s make it simple for you. When anyone says and or refers to, “ Go back to where you came from.” Nothing more is needed. Period. Stop all conversation right there. This is the language of white supremacist and has been used by such against people of color, different religions, different sexual preferences et al for generations of blatantly and willfully ignorant, hateful and scared people.
Plus for you to say, “ other than three were born in the US” is an example of you being intellectually bankrupt. Seriously. Your defense is invalid the very moment you utter those words! Go back to where you came from, you Americans. 😂 Stop your shameful defense there.
The fake president hates John McCain because he was everything he could never be. Deeply respected by both sides of the House, an American hero who served his country with great honor and bravery. He too was a man of privilege, yet he served without fear and suffered lifelong injuries from such. He clearly was bipolar to the coward known as Trump in ever way. Yet, did he tell McCain to go back to where he was from? How about Bernie, a self confessed and proud socialist. Did he tell Bernie to go back to where he was from? Of course not. They are and were lilly white.
What great times
Just gonna put this out there.....
The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has written specific rules that protect people, mostly immigrants, against employment discrimination on the basis of their national origin. The agency is responsible for enforcing laws that prohibit discrimination and harassment based on race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age and disability.
“Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities,” the commission said on its website to describe harassment based on national origin.
“Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include comments like, ‘Go back to where you came from,’ whether made by supervisors or co-workers,” it continued.
On Monday, the EEOC posted its own tweet detailing how to file a charge of discrimination that asks the agency to take action. The tweet did not mention the incident between the Democrats and Trump, though it was posted one day after the president’s remarks.
The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year. It will never end. For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from," is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list. Again.
PH
HP5+ pushed to 1600
By the way, Rand Paul and Mike Lee are despicable. I mean, I already knew that. But to vote for the grossest tax cut for the rich ever — leading to a 30% rise in deficit in prosperous times — and then deny 9/11 first responders health and palliative care on the grounds that it would cost too much money is lower than dog shit.
At least, though a racist asshole, Trump is genuinely a true imbecile suffering from a grave mental disorder. Paul and Lee... and all of Trump’s enablers: McConnell and Grahm and, frankly, the entire Republican political apparatus; they have no such excuse.
napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Three of them were born in the United States you fucking moronic racist. Is it any surprise that Trumpanzies are just plain stupid when Napacat shows no ability to think straight, to not engage in non sequiturs and whataboutisms. To parrot lies from Fox "News" and the liar in chief is the best he can do. Pathetic.
purplehaze posted:The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year. It will never end. For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from," is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list. Again.
PH
I know it's hard, but he just keeps coming back making ignorant, and now racist, statements that beg for correction.
The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Three of them were born in the United States you fucking moronic racist. Is it any surprise that Trumpanzies are just plain stupid when Napacat shows no ability to think straight, to not engage in non sequiturs and whataboutisms. To parrot lies from Fox "News" and the liar in chief is the best he can do. Pathetic.
My my you are easy prey. My post clearly stated that three were born in the U.S. read it again...then read the tweet and please explain how the actual words are racist?
Nothing needed to be corrected as it is right there in the third sentence. Maybe you should stick to movies. But I have read some of your posts...you have bad taste there as well.
napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Three of them were born in the United States you fucking moronic racist. Is it any surprise that Trumpanzies are just plain stupid when Napacat shows no ability to think straight, to not engage in non sequiturs and whataboutisms. To parrot lies from Fox "News" and the liar in chief is the best he can do. Pathetic.
My my you are easy prey. My post clearly stated that three were born in the U.S. read it again...then read the tweet and please explain how the actual words are racist?
Nothing needed to be corrected as it is right there in the third sentence. Maybe you should stick to movies. But I have read some of your posts...you have bad taste there as well.
You point out that three were born in the US but the miserable human in the WH said, "Why don’t THEY go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."
Well who is he talking about? Three women of color he's telling to go back to where their ancestors were born. He's a racist, you continually support him, what does that make you?
Stop typing. We've got it. He's a racist pig and you support him because of your wallet.
Finally, this is amazing: "...and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run."
How dare elected people in Congress, or ANY US citizen for that matter, tell the government how it should be run! I guess in Napa's world if you don't agree with the government you're just supposed to remain quiet. That's what millions of Americans have fought and died for over the years--the right to remain quiet.
I see no point in responding anymore as, like your sick hero, it's all deflection and uninformed nonsense.
purplehaze posted:The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year. It will never end. For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from," is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list. Again.
PH
Speaking of Putin’s poodle current next wife up, don’t forget about her parents being here due to chain migration, something the orange racist wants to end.
wineart 2 posted:purplehaze posted:The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year. It will never end. For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from," is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list. Again.
PH
Speaking of Putin’s poodle current next wife up, don’t forget about her parents being here due to chain migration, something the orange racist wants to end.
Last one in turn out the lights and lock the door.
Now they are chanting "Send Her Back" at his rallies. Truly wonderful, non-racists.
bman posted:wineart 2 posted:purplehaze posted:The empty suit's mendacity, obfuscation and absolute inability to deal in facts were the reasons I stopped responding directly to him last year. It will never end. For a person who is married to an immigrant of color to pretend not to understand the dog-whistle racism of, "Go back where you came from," is simply not credible. I will now put him back on my "ignore," list. Again.
PH
Speaking of Putin’s poodle current next wife up, don’t forget about her parents being here due to chain migration, something the orange racist wants to end.
Last one in turn out the lights and lock the door.
Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.
jcocktosten posted:Now they are chanting "Send Her Back" at his rallies. Truly wonderful, non-racists.
...and the racist absolutely loves it. I still remember John McCain cutting off a women that was supporting him when she called Obama a Muslim. This is just one example of why the orange racist hates McCain, a man of character.
on voting for or against the 9/11 responders law........Can someone explain this to me? These first responders were injured on the job. In most states, that entitles the injured worker to lifetime medical expenses for related illnesses, and lost wage benefits.
So, why must Congress provide funds for something already covered?
The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:napacat posted:The Old Man posted:purplehaze posted:Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE!
First of all, apparently this was a question. Buy a question mark, Einstein. And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE. Specifics, please.
Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.
You all are hopeless. You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported. Sick and twisted thought process. But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.
Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.
You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?
As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.
And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:
Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.
Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.
Below is the tweet in its entirety. Read it and not just the abbreviated headline. There is nothing racial about it and nothing wrong with it, other than three were born in the U.S.
"So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements"!
What's racial about that? Those women are an embarrassment and a disgrace to the House of Representatives.
WS Group Reply: "You're a moron...only watch Fox news. Trump is the disgrace".
Trump is just calling out these "four morons of the Apocalypse" for what they are. And it seems that most smart people see it that way. Good for him. Their ideas are dangerous and disingenuous!!! AOC's chief of staff stated the Green New Deal is not even about climate change, but rather an overhaul of the entire economy.
I'll stick with President Trump...thank you.
Three of them were born in the United States you fucking moronic racist. Is it any surprise that Trumpanzies are just plain stupid when Napacat shows no ability to think straight, to not engage in non sequiturs and whataboutisms. To parrot lies from Fox "News" and the liar in chief is the best he can do. Pathetic.
My my you are easy prey. My post clearly stated that three were born in the U.S. read it again...then read the tweet and please explain how the actual words are racist?
Nothing needed to be corrected as it is right there in the third sentence. Maybe you should stick to movies. But I have read some of your posts...you have bad taste there as well.
You point out that three were born in the US but the miserable human in the WH said, "Why don’t THEY go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."
Well who is he talking about? Three women of color he's telling to go back to where their ancestors were born. He's a racist, you continually support him, what does that make you?
Stop typing. We've got it. He's a racist pig and you support him because of your wallet.
Finally, this is amazing: "...and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run."
How dare elected people in Congress, or ANY US citizen for that matter, tell the government how it should be run! I guess in Napa's world if you don't agree with the government you're just supposed to remain quiet. That's what millions of Americans have fought and died for over the years--the right to remain quiet.
I see no point in responding anymore as, like your sick hero, it's all deflection and uninformed nonsense.
After this, I'm not going to post on this any longer. Those who disagree are probably wonderful people...let's leave it at that.
For me it is as simple as this, I disagree completely with their ideas...makes no difference what color their skin is. I hated Hillary just as much and am thrilled that she is not the President. I also disagree with all of the Democratic candidates and would not vote for a single one of them. Biden may be the most sane of the bunch, but dislike his policies as well.
Cheers.
For me it's as simple as this, if you blindly support a racist and a bigot, and you deflect and defend his racist and bigoted statements, you are a racist and a bigot. Can't get more simple than that.
This is why we can't have nice things
wineart 2 posted:Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.
Who knew your French was so good?! mrs bman is so impressed!
bman posted:wineart 2 posted:Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.
Who knew your French was so good?! mrs bman is so impressed!
Well, 40 years ago now, but the native tongue seemed apropos.
The Old Man posted:For me it's as simple as this, if you blindly support a racist and a bigot, and you deflect and defend his racist and bigoted statements, you are a racist and a bigot. Can't get more simple than that.
+1000. Someone 'Unfriended' me of social media because I questioned the morals and values of people that still support 45. They countered with 'the stock market, the strong military'. GTFOH is what I told them.
With Epstein denied bail, I hope he rolls on all of those involved in his scandals, and I hope 45 gets caught up in it as well.
jcocktosten posted:Now they are chanting "Send Her Back" at his rallies. Truly wonderful, non-racists.
Now, surely based on polling feedback, the orange-utan claims that he "disagrees," with the "Send her back," chanting at his recent Nurenberg rally . He claims he resumed his speech "very quickly," to interrupt the chants.
A 13 second pause, while he allowed the monkeys to throw feces from their enclosures as he smirked. Disingenuous bullshit. F Trump and all his minions.
PH
purplehaze posted:jcocktosten posted:Now they are chanting "Send Her Back" at his rallies. Truly wonderful, non-racists.
Now, surely based on polling feedback, the orange-utan claims that he "disagrees," with the "Send her back," chanting at his recent Nurenberg rally . He claims he resumed his speech "very quickly," to interrupt the chants.
A 13 second pause, while he allowed the monkeys to throw feces from their enclosures as he smirked. Disingenuous bullshit. F Trump and all his minions.
PH
Exactly. The president once again had the chance to show leadership and courage. Just like when the coward hid under his daddy’s skirt to avoid serving his country, he smiled at the chants and let them play out. It obviously feed his ego.
The chants came directly from the POS own mouth and his own tweets. He alone is responsible for feeding his cults bigotry, racism and sick thinking. He and his cult trample our constitution and the very values this nation was founded on. The crowd only gave the POS what he wanted and he smiled.
McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
For the POS sitting in the Oval Office to now say he doesn’t support the chants is an insult to any triple digit intellect.
Not only F Trump, F his cult and even more so F the republicans and their silence as the constitution is being shit on. Those who see wrong and say/ do nothing are the cowards that fuel the bigotry and racism and allow it to only grow.
I sit back daily and wonder how I ever supported this party for so long.
wineart 2 posted:McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
I believe she called him a Muslim, but close enough. rump could have actually had a "statesman-like," moment by interrupting the chants since he claims he disagreed with them.
Yeah... right. Sorry, what the F was I thinking?
PH
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
I believe she called him a Muslim, but close enough. rump could have actually had a "statesman-like," moment by interrupting the chants since he claims he disagreed with them.
Yeah... right. Sorry, what the F was I thinking?
PH
I too recall her saying Muslim but watched again on YouTube and she said Arab. Regardless, McCain showed his true soul by correcting her. Trump showed his true soul by doing nothing but smiling as he heard his OWN words chanted back at him.
wineart 2 posted:purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
I believe she called him a Muslim, but close enough. rump could have actually had a "statesman-like," moment by interrupting the chants since he claims he disagreed with them.
Yeah... right. Sorry, what the F was I thinking?
PH
I too recall her saying Muslim but watched again on YouTube and she said Arab. Regardless, McCain showed his true soul by correcting her. Trump showed his true soul by doing nothing but smiling as he heard his OWN words chanted back at him.
You are correct, sir. On all counts.
PH
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
I believe she called him a Muslim, but close enough. rump could have actually had a "statesman-like," moment by interrupting the chants since he claims he disagreed with them.
Yeah... right. Sorry, what the F was I thinking?
PH
I too recall her saying Muslim but watched again on YouTube and she said Arab. Regardless, McCain showed his true soul by correcting her. Trump showed his true soul by doing nothing but smiling as he heard his OWN words chanted back at him.
You are correct, sir. On all counts.
PH
I had also forgotten how McCain actually grabbed the microphone out of her hand. 🙃
I can’t see her getting the support to move that far, but I’d love to see a debate between the (bad)dreamsicle and another intelligent human being who served- Tulsi Gabbard.
wineart 2 posted:purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:McCain had one of his supporters call Obama an Arab. McCain stopped her on the spot. Leadership and courage.
I believe she called him a Muslim, but close enough. rump could have actually had a "statesman-like," moment by interrupting the chants since he claims he disagreed with them.
Yeah... right. Sorry, what the F was I thinking?
PH
I too recall her saying Muslim but watched again on YouTube and she said Arab. Regardless, McCain showed his true soul by correcting her. Trump showed his true soul by doing nothing but smiling as he heard his OWN words chanted back at him.
Just happened to be on TV right now. No wonder Trump hates McCain; McCain's a man of grace and dignity while Trump is like some slobbering slime monster from an H. P. Lovecraft horror story.
And did anyone see #2 Trump ass-sucker Kevin McCarthy (Lindsey Graham is of course #1) on this subject? Houdini couldn't get out of the knots McCarthy tied himself into trying to explain that what we saw and heard isn't what we saw and heard.
Finally from the Chicago Tribune an article that says it all: There’s no difference between supporting a racist and being one
A Nobel Prize recipient and refuge tells the Orange Idiot face to face that ISIS killed her family. His immediate reply, ‘ Where are they now?’
The self absorbed narcissistic coward and racist simply is not capable of not stepping on his own dick. Is there any question why he sued to keep his high school and college transcripts private? As his college professor said, ‘ Donald Trump was the dumbest GD student I ever had.’ This was before he became president.😂
wineart 2 posted:A Nobel Prize recipient and refuge tells the Orange Idiot face to face that ISIS killed her family. His immediate reply, ‘ Where are they now?’
The self absorbed narcissistic coward and racist simply is not capable of not stepping on his own dick. Is there any question why he sued to keep his high school and college transcripts private? As his college professor said, ‘ Donald Trump was the dumbest GD student I ever had.’ This was before he became president.😂
Then he responded, “I know the area very well that you’re talking about,”
My ass. The ignorant moron couldn't find Iowa on a map, much less Sinjar. Lying liar.
PH
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:A Nobel Prize recipient and refuge tells the Orange Idiot face to face that ISIS killed her family. His immediate reply, ‘ Where are they now?’
The self absorbed narcissistic coward and racist simply is not capable of not stepping on his own dick. Is there any question why he sued to keep his high school and college transcripts private? As his college professor said, ‘ Donald Trump was the dumbest GD student I ever had.’ This was before he became president.😂
Then he responded, “I know the area very well that you’re talking about,”
My ass. The ignorant moron couldn't find Iowa on a map, much less Sinjar. Lying liar.
PH
PH, indeed. I have a close friend that is a practicing psychiatrist for the past 35 years. He said Trump is clearly a sociopath and pathological. He lies without even knowing and is devoid of empathy.
I am so excited they are making "Top Gun 2".
Everyone (except Napa): Please read Frank Bruni’s Op-Ed in the Times today.
Every word.
winetarelli posted:Everyone (except Napa): Please read Frank Bruni’s Op-Ed in the Times today.
Every word.
Good article. Thanks, w. Simple summary. It's a one issue election in 2020. Do what we need to do to be free of the impostor. Then get to work on putting things back together.
PH
purplehaze posted:wineart 2 posted:A Nobel Prize recipient and refuge tells the Orange Idiot face to face that ISIS killed her family. His immediate reply, ‘ Where are they now?’
The self absorbed narcissistic coward and racist simply is not capable of not stepping on his own dick. Is there any question why he sued to keep his high school and college transcripts private? As his college professor said, ‘ Donald Trump was the dumbest GD student I ever had.’ This was before he became president.😂
Then he responded, “I know the area very well that you’re talking about,”
My ass. The ignorant moron couldn't find Iowa on a map, much less Sinjar. Lying liar.
PH
but he can find Russia on a map
winetarelli posted:Everyone (except Napa): Please read Frank Bruni’s Op-Ed in the Times today.
Every word.
tried do not have an account with the NYT
flwino posted:winetarelli posted:Everyone (except Napa): Please read Frank Bruni’s Op-Ed in the Times today.
Every word.
tried do not have an account with the NYT
The NYT allows a few free looks per month for non-subscribers. If you haven't already used your "free," access up, it should work. I just tried and it still works for me.
PH
flwino posted:winetarelli posted:Everyone (except Napa): Please read Frank Bruni’s Op-Ed in the Times today.
Every word.
tried do not have an account with the NYT
It's a free account that allows you something like 10 free stories a month.
TOM, I think we both hit "send," at the same time!
PH
"I just don't want to kill 10 million people."
PH
The stable genius once again shows compassion and humanity.
purplehaze posted:"I just don't want to kill 10 million people."
PH
at least Putin's puppy has a concern for life.
Brilliant!
Love Randy Rainbow. My favourite is still A Very Stable Genius.
And there was a good interview with him on NPR's Fresh Air a week ago:
https://www.npr.org/programs/f...?showDate=2019-07-17
Glad I'm not the only one enjoying him. A feature in the Washington Post Sunday Magazine tipped me off to him. He really deserves wider exposure. LOVED A Very Stable Genius. His average stuff is great. His great stuff is epic. He's quite a talented gent. The NPR interview was also very good. Love Fresh Air. I'd pay to listen to Terry Gross read the phone book.
PH