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@The Old Man posted:

In 2017 incidences of anti-Semitism rose at the steepest level since the Anti-Defamation League started tracking it. That number has continued to climb in the last two-and-a-half years leading to incidences such as 11 Jews slaughtered in Temple in Pittsburgh and 1 killed 30 miles away from me at a fellow synagogue. Hum, now what coincided with 2017 and has continued for the last 3 years? You'd have to be a fucking idiot  not to recognize  the sick hate speech  that comes out of this awful person.

You have a president who never came out until way after saying that he was condemning white supremacists. He doesn't want to, because anyone who admires him is okey-doke with him. And I've already explained this before . He said there were fine people on both sides. Let's say you're a fine person with a fine cause and you decide to go down and march. And a bunch of the people in your march are wearing wearing swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia . Why earth would you get in line and march with them, no matter how wonderful your cause?  What a pathetic excuse.

Myself, and the majority of Jews, who are certainly is a most demagogue people in history, know a demagogue when we see one. We know code, we know insinuation, and we see right through this poor excuse for a man. So go screw yourself and your "Chosen One." (remember when they used to mock Obama as our "Messiah"? I don't remember him ever actually saying anything like this putz as he looked to the heavens. You certainly can pick them.

Over and out.

TOM has certainly voiced basically my response.  Anyone who can look at what is happening in our government and trying to state that it is within any realm of acceptable - well I don't know what to say anymore.

Yes, I am a liberal Jewish person.  I wrote one of the recount lawsuits in the 2000 presidential elections and worked very hard to try to prevent the W presidency from ever occurring but nothing (and that includes trumped up wars that were fought) that took place then threatened our country like what has happened in the last few years.  At least the people behind W were not complete morons (despite the fact that I disagreed with them about everything).  And the fact that I disagreed with them, did not mean they were willing to sell out the Country for their own ends.  That cannot be said for the current administration - which I also told everyone before the 2016 election as I have the misfortune of having to spent a number of years personally dealing with Trump.

Anyone who rationalizes or normalizes what it going on in Washington now will ultimately bear responsibility if things continue to spiral downwards.

Thank you. In this case the "cancer on the presidency" is the president.

( Numbers show around 80% of Jews do not vote Republican and also do not support Trump. The 20% mostly come from the Orthodox, which doesn't mean they should be discounted, but many of them are really one issue voters. The greatest concentration of Orthodox Jews in the US is New York City. Regardless of that the entire city rejected Trump in 2016 because they knew him all too well.)

@flwino posted:

Robert, Please add an IGNORE button so we can avoid having to see this dribble, for the dumb a$$ in Miami. This forum has degenerated into a place for threats, lies, etc.  Previously we had a policy of no Politics. Maybe time to provide a "time out" for NapaCult

You are one annoying individual....

@csm posted:

And the fact that you think any politician, Trump or otherwise, appoints anyone to any position because of competence, or for a reason other than loyalty is laugh out loud funny.  

Read Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin, and get back to us.  

There are countless other examples, but I'll let Lincoln's remarkable appointments of William Seward (Secretary of State),  Salmon Chase (Secretary of the Treasury) and Edward Bates (Attorney General) serve to rebut your ridiculous assertion above.

Not only were they competent, they all disliked Lincoln immensely.  

Here's a list of "across party line" appointments by both Republican and Democratic Presidents in case you need more data.  Click..... 

PH

@purplehaze posted:

Read Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin, and get back to us.  

There are countless other examples, but I'll let Lincoln's remarkable appointments of William Seward (Secretary of State),  Salmon Chase (Secretary of the Treasury) and Edward Bates (Attorney General) serve to rebut your ridiculous assertion above.

Not only were they competent, they all disliked Lincoln immensely.  

Here's a list of "across party line" appointments by both Republican and Democratic Presidents in case you need more data.  Click..... 

PH

Stop with the facts already. They know the truth from Fox News, OAN, Alex Jones and don't forget the Washington Sentinel (whatever the hell that is. Try and even find it online.) I thought it was common knowledge about the diverse cabinets that many presidents have engaged. Trump, Mr. Businessman, can't even keep most of his cabinet members more than six months. It's all right here in this fake news from this fake news site. Trump Has Now Had More Cabinet Turnover Than Reagan, Obama and the Two Bushes. Of course all the numbers are fake because no president can possibly be this incompetent and still be admired for bringing his business experience to the White House.What CEO would not have been booted a long time ago?

@The Old Man posted:

Stop with the facts already. 

And yet, we persist.  Try to be mellow, and be safe you cranky fuck.

PH

@bman posted:

The cynicism is strong in this one!  

 

 

This surprises you?? We’ve met Bob!  

@The Old Man posted:

In 2017 incidences of anti-Semitism rose at the steepest level since the Anti-Defamation League started tracking it. That number has continued to climb in the last two-and-a-half years leading to incidences such as 11 Jews slaughtered in Temple in Pittsburgh and 1 killed 30 miles away from me at a fellow synagogue. Hmm, now what coincided with 2017 and has continued for the last 3 years? You'd have to be a fucking idiot  not to recognize  the sick hate speech  that comes out of this awful person.

You have a president who never came out until way after saying that he was condemning white supremacists. He doesn't want to, because anyone who admires him is okey-doke with him. What kind of bar is set when you can't forcefully reject neo-Nazis? And I've already explained this before. He said there were "fine people on both sides." So let's say you're a fine person with a fine cause and you decide to go down and march. And a bunch of the people in your march are wearing wearing swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia. Why earth would you get in line and march with them, no matter how wonderful your cause?  What a pathetic excuse.

Myself, and the majority of Jews, who are certainly the most demagogued people in history, know a demagogue when we see one. We know code, we know insinuation, and we see right through this poor excuse for a man. So go screw yourself and your "Chosen One." (remember when they used to mock Obama as our "Messiah"? I don't remember him ever actually saying anything like this putz as he looked to the heavens. You certainly can pick them.

Over and out.

For the record, my wife is Jewish. My son is Jewish. My ex-wife is Jewish.  I assumed you were referring to the Charlottesville incident (wife also is a Wahoo) where Trump has, wrongly in my opinion, been credited with calling the Neo-Nazi scum that were there “fine people”. I’ve listened to the whole speech. I don’t think that’s what he said.  

I’m also not defending Trump. I can’t stand him. I just think it’s counterproductive to go beyond his actual words.  You don’t need to embellish. His actual words are more than enough.

Your citing of all of the facts you did are nothing more than a red herring.  I said nothing of the rise in anti-Semitism. Or the massacre in Pittsburgh (victims lived in my in-laws’ community in Florida for what it is worth).  I was referring to one specific incident. Anyway, keep calling names and making assumptions.  It’s really all you do well.

Fucking idiot over and out. I’m going to go grab my Trump bear and screw myself. Like the putz I am. 

Fauci and the head of the cdc both exposed at the White House.  Both will self quarantine 

Why  do people at the White House never wear masks?

@purplehaze posted:

Read Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin, and get back to us.  

There are countless other examples, but I'll let Lincoln's remarkable appointments of William Seward (Secretary of State),  Salmon Chase (Secretary of the Treasury) and Edward Bates (Attorney General) serve to rebut your ridiculous assertion above.

Not only were they competent, they all disliked Lincoln immensely.  

Here's a list of "across party line" appointments by both Republican and Democratic Presidents in case you need more data.  Click..... 

PH

Fair enough PH. Should have been more clear. Any modern politician.

Holding any of the clowns that hold public office right now up to Lincoln’s standard is going to leave the modern guys being weighed, measured and found wanting. 

csm I’m sorry you got dragged into attacks - especially  the one by the miserable jagoff in California whose only reason for existing seems to be trying to spread his misery to others. F*** that waste of cells. Remember, the dumbass also insinuated vint was antisemitic recently. Tool.

@csm posted:

For the record, my wife is Jewish. My son is Jewish. My ex-wife is Jewish.  I assumed you were referring to the Charlottesville incident (wife also is a Wahoo) where Trump has, wrongly in my opinion, been credited with calling the Neo-Nazi scum that were there “fine people”. I’ve listened to the whole speech. I don’t think that’s what he said.  

I’m also not defending Trump. I can’t stand him. I just think it’s counterproductive to go beyond his actual words.  You don’t need to embellish. His actual words are more than enough.

Your citing of all of the facts you did are nothing more than a red herring.  I said nothing of the rise in anti-Semitism. Or the massacre in Pittsburgh (victims lived in my in-laws’ community in Florida for what it is worth).  I was referring to one specific incident. Anyway, keep calling names and making assumptions.  It’s really all you do well.

Fucking idiot over and out. I’m going to go grab my Trump bear and screw myself. Like the putz I am. 

Those red herrings are the truth. Apparently billhike thinks I'm calling you an anti-semite. I had no idea what your religion is. I'm saying the president is an anti-semite and I'm giving you some examples. I think in your excusing his reaction to Charleston you are enabling an anti-semite. Many members of my Chabad also think he didn't say what he said.

As I said the great majority of Jews see right through this demagogue, a small minority do not. I'm proud of that.

@billhike posted:

csm I’m sorry you got dragged into attacks - especially  the one by the miserable jagoff in California whose only reason for existing seems to be trying to spread his misery to others. F*** that waste of cells. Remember, the dumbass also insinuated vint was antisemitic recently. Tool.

billhike please quote anywhere where I called him anti-Semitic. Nor, as I clearly explained, did I call vint anti-Semitic. As I said I was pointing out an interesting fact about Hebrew grammar not putting him down. Please quote where I called either one of them anti-semitic or anyone else other than the president.

@The Old Man posted:

Those red herrings are the truth. Apparently billhike thinks I'm calling you an anti-semite. I had no idea what your religion is. I'm saying the president is an anti-semite and I'm giving you some examples. I think in your excusing his reaction to Charleston you are enabling an anti-semite. Many members of my Chabad also think he didn't say what he said.

As I said the great majority of Jews see right through this demagogue, a small minority do not. I'm proud of that.

Red herrings can’t be the truth. By definition. And Charlottesville. Not Charleston. 

He never once said the Nazi pigs there were fine people. There is nothing to excuse. 

i have a hard time with calling this president an anti-semite.  Lots of other things yes. anti-Semitic no.

@csm posted:

Red herrings can’t be the truth. By definition.

You got me, I should have just said the truth. Because it all was. You of won't answer any of them like the unprecedented rise in anti-semitic incidents is since this demagogue took office. Not to mention rise in anti-Hispanic attacks (what do you expect when the president says the majority of people coming from Mexico and rapists, murderers and drug dealers (?)), more attacks on blacks, Look at what just happened in Georgia. And of course an increase in threats to Muslims--you can't think that's just luck of the draw can you?. These are facts and they're not coincidences.

Charleston. I stand corrected.

He never once said the Nazi pigs there were fine people. There is nothing to excuse.

I understand that a number of Jews feel that way. However a large majority will certainly vote against him November as they did in 2016.

 

 

Perhaps csm, you could explain to billhike that I didn't call you an anti-semite. Bill you remind me sometimes of Scut Farkus's toady Grover Dill in Christmas Story. You knew if Farkus was being tough with someone Dill's the type who would do the reach around to get his licks in.

@The Old Man posted:

billhike please quote anywhere where I called him anti-Semitic. Nor, as I clearly explained, did I call vint anti-Semitic. As I said I was pointing out an interesting fact about Hebrew grammar not putting him down. Please quote where I called either one of them anti-semitic or anyone else other than the president.

I re-quoted your post directed at vint before you deleted/edited it and backtracked. Go find it yourself - it’s in the Passover thread. And I didn’t make the same claim regarding your exchange with csm. But you did make one of your unhinged attacks because he wouldn’t agree with you. It’s a pattern. Fuck off.

@The Old Man posted:

Perhaps csm, you could explain to billhike that I didn't call you an anti-semite. Bill you remind me sometimes of Scut Farkus's toady Grover Dill in Christmas Story. You knew if Farkus was being tough with someone Dill's the type who would do the reach around to get his licks in.

Right, because I’ve never called out you’re being a whiny prick on my own. 

@billhike posted:

I re-quoted your post directed at vint before you deleted/edited it and backtracked. Go find it yourself - it’s in the Passover thread. And I didn’t make the same claim regarding your exchange with csm. But you did make one of your unhinged attacks because he wouldn’t agree with you. It’s a pattern. Fuck off.

I know what I wrote and I know what I meant. Your hate for me over the years has colored and twisted yourself into misreading my posts. I made a Hebrew grammar correction (again because I thought the Hebrew derivation was interesting) It was misinterpreted as an attack (again it wasn't.) I was then surprisingly attacked and I mused if it was an anti-Semitic attack. Again I did not call anyone an anti-Semite. I just didn't understand the attacks on me. I then explained what I had meant (about "correcting" Hebrew grammar.) But just like Grover you jumped in there too. There is it, go fuck yourself.

"And I didn’t make the same claim regarding your exchange with csm"

"Remember, the dumbass also insinuated vint was antisemitic recently."

@billhike posted:

Right, because I’ve never called out you’re being a whiny prick on my own. 

But you sure like ganging up where there's an opportunity Grover.

Talk about misreading.