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g-man posted:

vincentric posted:

csm posted:

g-man posted:

patespo1 posted:

vincentric posted:

thistlintom posted:

mangiare posted:

Does anyone think both teams should get the ball in sudden death overtime? In a championship game with 2 weeks to rest, should they not play a full quarter? 

Each team should have at least one shot with the ball.  I much rather see it end with the college version of tiebreaker rather than the NFL version.

Absoulutely Mangiare.  CFL OT rules: Under the current rules, if the score is tied at the end of a game, each team gets an opportunity to scrimmage from its opponent's 35-yard-line, until it makes a score or loses possession. If the score remains tied, the procedure is repeated at the opposite end of the stadium.

The outcome of the Pats game is a joke, as is the other.  Between the bad/missed calls that were game changers in the final minutes of the game and the coin toss for a single team to get the receiving advantage, the result is that 'best two teams' going to the Superbowl is simply a flawed concept at best.  

The sudden death OT approach of the NFL is the equivalent of giving one European football, a.k.a. soccer, 5 penalty kicks and if they get any, they win.  Beyond stupid.  

Sadly, all that will be remembered if Pats win again is how great Brady was, not the missteps that got them to the game.  Would be better if the team that wins got there of its own accord (without refs determining the outcome) and in on a level OT playing field. 

 

New Orleans won the coin toss, got the ball first and lost. 

New England got the ball first and won.

50/50 results....kind of like a coin toss.  

except we all know on an NFL coin,  that there is actually a 51/49 bias towards the side the coin that started out facing.

On an actual coin, the odds are even more biased towards the side the coin starting face position because most people dont know how to flip a coin and instead it just wobbles in the air.

add to the fact that on the law of averages those receiving the ball first have a 52% chance of winning the ball game means 

1.  you always choose to receive the ball

2. you always look to see what face the coin is and you pick the same face.

I like the NFL rules as they stand now.  If you lose the coin toss, you have a chance to get the ball.  All you have to do is stop the offence from scoring a TD. If you can't, you don't have anything to complain about beside your poor defense.  You want a chance at the ball, stop the other team.  Simple. 

It would be interesting to see the stats on what percentage of 'Receiving teams' in OT won.  My guess (and it's an educated guess only) is that there is an advantage to winning the coin toss.  

 

I gave it, it's 52% chance of winning the game if you win the coin toss

Agrée.

thistlintom posted:

Thanks I read the article.  From what Wineart2 has posted, I suspect there are more articles about this issue.  My wife still reads the Houston Chronicle so I might check with her on anything there.

Also of note, California is being forced to remove 1.5 million inactive voters from its roles.  I just don't think enough is being done to manage voter roles and ensure that we do not have invalid votes during elections.

I'd be more concerned about the thousands of kids in detention centers, separated from their parents, and have no appropriate legal access.

doubled posted:

thistlintom posted:

Thanks I read the article.  From what Wineart2 has posted, I suspect there are more articles about this issue.  My wife still reads the Houston Chronicle so I might check with her on anything there.

Also of note, California is being forced to remove 1.5 million inactive voters from its roles.  I just don't think enough is being done to manage voter roles and ensure that we do not have invalid votes during elections.

I'd be more concerned about the thousands of kids in detention centers, separated from their parents, and have no appropriate legal access.

Never mind those who have no idea where their parents are, and vice versa. 

Watch out Rafa and Roger; here comes Novak!

gigabit posted:

Watch out Rafa and Roger; here comes Novak!

I dont think anyone in history could have beaten Novak today.  That was an impressive performance

flwino posted:

in the NFL  Believe that each team should be a receiver. Once the receiver has scored, or failed to, a new kick off is required.  Continue until a score is accomplished.  If both score, repeat the process.

 

 

I'd simplify it even more.  Put 15:00 on the clock and play a full quarter under normal rules (except that all replay reviews would come from the booth instead of coaches having limited challenges).  Football is not like basketball where players foul out, or like baseball where once a player is removed from the game, he can't come back in.  Extra play in those sports can start to look ugly, with shortstops pitching in the 19th inning.  Not so with football.  There is no reason why OT in football has to be subjected to gimmicks.  Just play the game like normal.

thistlintom posted:

I know that the 58,000 votes are over a couple of decades, but as I read it it was 58,000 different voters, not 58,000 votes in total, which is still significant.

I'd be interested to see more information on this, maybe the number of non-voters are less than the report, but if thousands of votes are invalid, then that is a problem in my mind, especially since there have been some pretty close votes in some races, such as Al Franken's initial victory. 

My concern about this is that Texas is relatively strict in voter laws, and many other states are much more lax.  We should do all we can to ensure that only valid votes are counted.

I agree that no one should vote who is not legally eligible.  That said, this claim of 58,000 illegal votes will not be proven true, because it's not true.  It's a smaller version of trump's claim after the 2016 election that "millions and millions," of illegal votes were cast.  

Credible studies from Loyola Marymount University and Arizona State showed that the number of fraudulent votes cast In US elections are miniscule.  Beyond minuscule, actually.  The ASU study found 10 fraudulent votes in reviewing a decade of votes. The Loyola study found 31 cases of voter impersonation out of over a billion votes.  That's .00000003 of the number of votes cast.  Far, far less than bman's suggested .003 of the vote (which I'd argue would be unacceptably high.)

These types of false claims and unconscionable exaggeration serve only one purpose.  An atmosphere of fear among minority voters and suppression of the legitimate vote.  If what you're selling is worth buying, you'd want to make sure everyone who can vote, does.  

PH

JimmyV posted:

flwino posted:

in the NFL  Believe that each team should be a receiver. Once the receiver has scored, or failed to, a new kick off is required.  Continue until a score is accomplished.  If both score, repeat the process.

 

 

I'd simplify it even more.  Put 15:00 on the clock and play a full quarter under normal rules (except that all replay reviews would come from the booth instead of coaches having limited challenges).  Football is not like basketball where players foul out, or like baseball where once a player is removed from the game, he can't come back in.  Extra play in those sports can start to look ugly, with shortstops pitching in the 19th inning.  Not so with football.  There is no reason why OT in football has to be subjected to gimmicks.  Just play the game like normal.

And what happens if it is a tie at the end of the 5th quarter?  The players will be very tired and there still is a tie.

thistlintom posted:

JimmyV posted:

flwino posted:

in the NFL  Believe that each team should be a receiver. Once the receiver has scored, or failed to, a new kick off is required.  Continue until a score is accomplished.  If both score, repeat the process.

 

 

I'd simplify it even more.  Put 15:00 on the clock and play a full quarter under normal rules (except that all replay reviews would come from the booth instead of coaches having limited challenges).  Football is not like basketball where players foul out, or like baseball where once a player is removed from the game, he can't come back in.  Extra play in those sports can start to look ugly, with shortstops pitching in the 19th inning.  Not so with football.  There is no reason why OT in football has to be subjected to gimmicks.  Just play the game like normal.

And what happens if it is a tie at the end of the 5th quarter?  The players will be very tired and there still is a tie.

Then there is a dance-off, restricted to back-up Offensive Linemen, judged by a neutral group of high school cheerleaders. 

thistlintom posted:

JimmyV posted:

flwino posted:

in the NFL  Believe that each team should be a receiver. Once the receiver has scored, or failed to, a new kick off is required.  Continue until a score is accomplished.  If both score, repeat the process.

 

 

I'd simplify it even more.  Put 15:00 on the clock and play a full quarter under normal rules (except that all replay reviews would come from the booth instead of coaches having limited challenges).  Football is not like basketball where players foul out, or like baseball where once a player is removed from the game, he can't come back in.  Extra play in those sports can start to look ugly, with shortstops pitching in the 19th inning.  Not so with football.  There is no reason why OT in football has to be subjected to gimmicks.  Just play the game like normal.

And what happens if it is a tie at the end of the 5th quarter?  The players will be very tired and there still is a tie.

give them 1/2 of a trophy

flwino posted:

thistlintom posted:

JimmyV posted:

flwino posted:

in the NFL  Believe that each team should be a receiver. Once the receiver has scored, or failed to, a new kick off is required.  Continue until a score is accomplished.  If both score, repeat the process.

 

 

I'd simplify it even more.  Put 15:00 on the clock and play a full quarter under normal rules (except that all replay reviews would come from the booth instead of coaches having limited challenges).  Football is not like basketball where players foul out, or like baseball where once a player is removed from the game, he can't come back in.  Extra play in those sports can start to look ugly, with shortstops pitching in the 19th inning.  Not so with football.  There is no reason why OT in football has to be subjected to gimmicks.  Just play the game like normal.

And what happens if it is a tie at the end of the 5th quarter?  The players will be very tired and there still is a tie.

give them 1/2 of a trophy

Just like they did in the Pro Bowl.  😄

So, according to all the heads of the various spy, law enforcement and security agencies - each appointed by Trump - he is dead wrong on:

-Russia
-ISIS
-Syria
-Afghanistan
-Iran
-climate change

bman posted:

So, according to all the heads of the various spy, law enforcement and security agencies - each appointed by Trump - he is dead wrong on:

-Russia
-ISIS
-Syria
-Afghanistan
-Iran
-climate change

And no, migrants approaching the southern border was NOT mentioned as a threat to security or a national emergency.

I wonder how Fox and the rest of the far right will explain this away. I bet they just ignore it.

He can't be wrong. He knows more about those things (as well as drones and trade) than anyone. Believe him.

https://www.worldatlas.com/art...rves-by-country.html

Looks like Venezuela needs some freedom.

This pretty much nails it........

I'm still thinking of the wine-savvy escort from above...

a random thought

Trump says something stupid

Northam "Hold my beer"

ProSys posted:

This pretty much nails it........

Describes his base, to a tee.

Human wall!