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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by patespo1:
Drink your good stuff soon, John Bolton is the new National Security Advisor


Scary dude.


Just last month in an article in the WSJ he said we should take military action against North Korea now.

This is not the advice we need given to the want to be general.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by patespo1:
Drink your good stuff soon, John Bolton is the new National Security Advisor


Scary dude.


Just last month in an article in the WSJ he said we should take military action against North Korea now.

This is not the advice we need given to the want to be general.


It appears that all the adults have now left the room. Echo chamber nearing completion. Scary indeed.

PH
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by patespo1:
Drink your good stuff soon, John Bolton is the new National Security Advisor


Scary dude.


Just last month in an article in the WSJ he said we should take military action against North Korea now.

This is not the advice we need given to the want to be general.


It appears that all the adults have now left the room. Echo chamber nearing completion. Scary indeed.

PH

Kelly is outnumbered, and outgunned.
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by patespo1:
Drink your good stuff soon, John Bolton is the new National Security Advisor


Scary dude.


Just last month in an article in the WSJ he said we should take military action against North Korea now.

This is not the advice we need given to the want to be general.


It appears that all the adults have now left the room. Echo chamber nearing completion. Scary indeed.

PH

Kelly is outnumbered, and outgunned.

Mattis is the one I’m most concerned about. If he goes we may genuinely be in real trouble.
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Originally posted by Oriolesfan:
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Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
It’s great how people cannot talk about anything but politics


That’s because circle jerks can’t help themselves.



Don't see how talking politics or anything else unrelated to wine, in a thread on a wine forum entitled "Say Something Random and Off Topic", is a bad thing......
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
March for our Lives crowd estimate approaching 1 million. Orange blob seen fleeing to FL well in advance. Sad.

PH


And about almost every other politician before, during and after him. This isn’t the president’s shame. It is all of America’s.
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Originally posted by Mimik:
And about almost every other politician before, during and after him...


Not sure what you're saying here, Mim. There are varying degrees of culpability between parties and individuals on this issue. I don't think equating the legislators who marched with these people yesterday, and the president who fled south for another round of golf is remotely fair.

Hell, even Nixon (no fan here) stayed in town when there was a large protest after the Kent State shootings and even went out to the Lincoln Memorial with his valet and some Secret Service guys and spoke directly with the protestors.

The bizarre combination of bluster and cowardice that Cadet Bone Spurs has brought to the Oval office is absolutely unprecedented.

PH
Well....we had a school shooting here in Maryland last week. Shooter was 17 and used his father’s handgun -
Raising the age to 21 to buy a gun and banning semiautomatic guns and screening purchasers irrelevant to this event

I read a person’a comment in the paper: the reason we have very little illiteracy in the USA is because we teach kids how to read. The reason we have shootings and other forms of violence is because we don’t teach peace, calm and tolerance. We teach hate and violence and anger and retribution.

I am convinced that if we taught more classical music in the schools and chess and foreign language instead of football we’d be in better shape for the future. I venture to guess that none of these mass murderers play the violin
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I am convinced that if we taught more classical music in the schools and chess and foreign language instead of football we’d be in better shape for the future. I venture to guess that none of these mass murderers play the violin


So many tangents we could take from this...

If we taught more hard science and math, we wouldn't be lagging behind the world in STEM.

If only there were MORE physical education in school, our children would be healthier, both mentally and physically. Only 6 states in the country mandate at least one session per week from grade school through high school. Not much football being taught! And we are the most obese nation on the planet.

Your points about art and language are spot on as well, irwin.

Schools just can't do it all. There needs to be a much higher degree of parental involvement in determining what our children do in school and after school. Unfortunately we have generation after generation of our population who just use school as a holding tank for kids.

PH
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Originally posted by irwin:
The reason we have shootings and other forms of violence is because we don’t teach peace, calm and tolerance. We teach hate and violence and anger and retribution.

A lot of sad, lonely, angry, frightened people in need of acceptance, purpose, and love.

I believe that nurturing begins in the home, but it must extend to schools, neighborhoods, churches, communities, etc.

We are (seemingly) more connected than ever; however, too many are lacking true connection.
“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes.”

<confronted>

“Yeah, they took action to ask someone to pass a law; they didn’t take action to say, ‘how do *I* the individual deal with this problem’... ‘what am I going to do to actually help respond to a shooter’... instead of going and protesting and saying, ‘oh someone else needs to pass a law to protect me.’”



-Rick Santorum (“State of the Union”, CNN 3/25/2018)
PH my limited understanding of the issue indicates that the fact that gun control for weapons like AK-47s has never passed is a bipartisan issue. There have been times where The Democrats controlled most of the houses and still no legislation restricting weapons of war was ever introduced. Is this correct?
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
“How about kids instead of looking to someone else to solve their problem, do something about maybe taking CPR classes.”

<confronted>

“Yeah, they took action to ask someone to pass a law; they didn’t take action to say, ‘how do *I* the individual deal with this problem’... ‘what am I going to do to actually help respond to a shooter’... instead of going and protesting and saying, ‘oh someone else needs to pass a law to protect me.’”



-Rick Santorum (“State of the Union”, CNN 3/25/2018)


GREAT thinking Santorum! The 20 children that were between 6 and 7 years old and were murdered would have obviously benefited a great deal from thinking like yours.

Trump must have a place in his administration for people like Santorum, no?
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Originally posted by Mimik:
PH my limited understanding of the issue indicates that the fact that gun control for weapons like AK-47s has never passed is a bipartisan issue. There have been times where The Democrats controlled most of the houses and still no legislation restricting weapons of war was ever introduced. Is this correct?


No. In 1994 a 10 year ban on assault weapons was passed by both houses, and went into effect on September 13, 1994 being signed by Pres. Clinton. It expired on schedule, and due to the existing climate at the time of expiration and since, efforts to pass a similar law have not been successful.

PH
To be clear, the ban only included weapons manufactured on or after the date of the law's passage. Existing weapons were "grandfathered."

Frankly, any legislation to confiscate legally owned firearms in this country would meet with some serious resistance, including from some Democrats.

PH
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Stormy Daniels...

1 - Not. Remotely. Hot.

2 - Trump should be very afraid of her and her legal team.

PH


1. Completely agree...not hot at ALL!

2. Why, just an affair that both agreed to. Bad behavior by Trump for sure and I feel bad for his wife. No one should cheat on their spouse. Not sure this poses a legal issue.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Stormy Daniels...

1 - Not. Remotely. Hot.

2 - Trump should be very afraid of her and her legal team.

PH


... and you think she was attracted to him with his 44” waist, a fox sitting on his head, an orange spray tan and his small hands?

The sword cuts both ways, PH. Big Grin
It's really a ridiculous story. I wish that Anderson Cooper had asked:

1) Did you pay taxes on the $130,000?

2) You have told us that your attorney told you not to discuss whether you have tapes, videos,etc. What else did your attorney tell you?

3) You take your infant in a car seat to the gym? What gym? Did you sign in? Did you tell anyone there about the threat? Did you just go inside and exercise as if nothing had happened?

4) Were you concerned that you'd become pregnant or contract a disease when you had unprotected sex with Mr. Trump?

5) What did you expect to get by virtue of having sex with a married guy, who you were not attracted to? Was it the gig on the Apprentice? Was it money? Was it fame? Why not just leave like you say you did when you watched the shark movie with him?

Frankly, I am more concerned with the trade war and Bolton.
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Originally posted by irwin:
It's really a ridiculous story. I wish that Anderson Cooper had asked:

1) Did you pay taxes on the $130,000?

2) You have told us that your attorney told you not to discuss whether you have tapes, videos,etc. What else did your attorney tell you?

3) You take your infant in a car seat to the gym? What gym? Did you sign in? Did you tell anyone there about the threat? Did you just go inside and exercise as if nothing had happened?

4) Were you concerned that you'd become pregnant or contract a disease when you had unprotected sex with Mr. Trump?

5) What did you expect to get by virtue of having sex with a married guy, who you were not attracted to? Was it the gig on the Apprentice? Was it money? Was it fame? Why not just leave like you say you did when you watched the shark movie with him?

Frankly, I am more concerned with the trade war and Bolton.


+1 Irwin
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by Napacat:
Why, just an affair that both agreed to... Not sure this poses a legal issue.


The affair isn't the legal issue. The check and the timing is.

PH


+1 PH, it's not the affair (we all know about his lack of morals) it's how the cover up happened and the implications.

Off Topic, The Youth of America impressed me this weekend, I hope they keep up their passion for bringing about positive change.

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