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@irwin posted:

As to Trump, rank the following from worst to least bad:

1) getting money from foreign govts for his hotel rooms

2) cheating on his wife, paying off Stormy and hiding the payoffs my claiming them as business expenses

3) inciting riots on Jan 6, 2021

4) trying to twist the arms of the Georgia elections officials to flip the election

5)  getting lawyers to file completely frivolous post election cases, claiming fraud in the absence of evidence

6) his habit of eating steak well done with ketchup

3 / 4 / 5 / 1 / 2 / 6    although the steak thing would get anyone thrown out of my house.

@patespo1 posted:

Finally indicted the Orange man, hopefully the first of many for his numerous crimes.

Does anyone think he actually gets convicted?  I don't see it happening, in which case the Manhattan DA really gave a jolt to his 2024 campaign.

I keep hearing the talking heads about Trump’s legal troubles helping his campaign. Seriously? Exactly what has he accomplished since he was soundly beaten that would cause someone who didn’t vote for him in 2020 to now start supporting him? If you like me are and were anti-Trump in 2020 he has done nothing whatsoever to cause a change of heart.

Hell, his entire past staff is now attacking him, Fox News is no longer all in on this POS and even the senate minority leader doesn’t even have his back. Trump held his first official rally in Waco Texas, a place where over 20m people are 2 hours or less away. By the time he was finished lying the cult had diminished to nearly half as people wanted to beat the traffic out of the parking lot.😂

Does Trump’s current and soon much more serious legal issues make his cult supporters rally? Sure. Who cares?

To me, the biggest issue is how many sub moronic troglodytes there are who worship him no matter what. Not to mention all of the GOP members who publicly claim that the investigations are unwarranted. How about the ones visiting and canonizing the scumbags who attacked the Capitol? We are on the path to being a shithole nation of idiocy, and adversarial regimes are ready to take advantage. Let’s not forget the new strategy of election denial, voter access interference, etc.

I’m damn thankful to not have children to worry about.

William H. Taft was an overweight Republican President in the early part of the 20^th century.  He ran for re-election and lost.  Thereafter, he went to the Supreme Court of the United States.

Donald J. Trump was an overweight Republican President in the early part of the 21^st century.  He ran for re-election and lost.  He now goes before the New York County Supreme Court.

Taft was the first President to throw out the first pitch to start the baseball season.  Trump was the first President thereafter to fail to do so.

Well, regardless of your party affiliation, you have to admit that today is a remarkable day.  A former President being arraigned on criminal charges.  Not something I would have expected in the US a decade ago.

Many more to add:

Making SS pay for rooms and golf carts

Trying to move airport

i'm just as scared about what's going on in TN

Bring you unlicensed gun to Florida in July.  Ron wants a shoot up.

@irwin posted:

Taft was the first President to throw out the first pitch to start the baseball season.  Trump was the first President thereafter to fail to do so.

Jimmy Carter never threw out a first pitch. Biden hasn't either so far.

VM

Not sure of FDR  either due to health issues

We’re I elected President, I would pass simply because baseball sucks.

@flwino posted:

Not sure of FDR  either due to health issues

FDR actually threw out more first pitches than any other President.

VM

Am really surprised at that

So apparently as part of the booking process, NYPD measured Donald Trump's height and weight.

Remember when he was in the White House, his reported height/weight was 6'3'' and 239 pounds (which was just under the level of being "obese" at 29.9)?

Turns out he's 6'1'' and 270 pounds

Sports world has hilarious reactions to Donald Trump’s weight (msn.com)

Puts him at a BMI of 35.6 (Obesity is anything over 30).

An IQ test by someone other than Ronny Jackson would be interesting.

I'm going to be a little bummed if Dominion settles with Fox

@Rothko posted:

I'm going to be a little bummed if Dominion settles with Fox

Me too. Unless it involves repeated nightly and unconditional apologies by each of the Fox prime time and other whackadoodles and hundreds of millions of dollars.

@bman posted:

Me too. Unless it involves repeated nightly and unconditional apologies by each of the Fox prime time and other whackadoodles and hundreds of millions of dollars.

I'm hoping the outcome involves Faux News being out of business.

Maybe add  NewsMAx   And One America News 

They are also scum

@flwino posted:

Maybe add  NewsMAx   And One America News

They are also scum

I would argue far worse.  If the existence of Fox News lessens their reach, I would be sad to see Fox News disappear.

Maybe just a case of the devil you know...

@Rothko posted:

I'm going to be a little bummed if Dominion settles with Fox

And that’s what happened. Fucking pussies.

@billhike posted:

And that’s what happened. Fucking pussies.

Well, well.  I'm sure it's going to be a huge check.  But Fox will write it, take the tax write off, and be back to business as usual in a week.

@Rothko posted:

Well, well.  I'm sure it's going to be a huge check.  But Fox will write it, take the tax write off, and be back to business as usual in a week.

Tonight.  Queue Tuck Tuck.

@Rothko posted:

Well, well.  I'm sure it's going to be a huge check.  But Fox will write it, take the tax write off, and be back to business as usual in a week.

I'm expecting that there will be more than money, at least some kind of apology or clarification or other form of humiliating grovelling on the shows that defamed Dominion.  Hope I'm right!

@bman posted:

I'm expecting that there will be more than money, at least some kind of apology or clarification or other form of humiliating grovelling on the shows that defamed Dominion.  Hope I'm right!

Humiliation for the shameless? Please. I’m sure they’ve already had the spin scripted for a long time, and will now make themselves the victim of a company that “weaponized” the legal system. May Rupert and all of the talking heads who were complicit in stoking the fires of the attack on the Capitol get cancer.

I would hope that Dominion would not have settled for cash only but time will tell.  And I'm sure they will not feel humiliated, but humiliation is in the eye of the beholder!

787 million.  Half of what they were seeking.

@wineismylife posted:

787 million.  Half of what they were seeking.

Which is FAR more than they ever thought they would ever receive. Far more, no appeals and paid over 10x the value of their small company.

Fox next pending suit is for $2B for admitted lies and this evidence can be used per legal talking heads.

@wine+art posted:

Which is FAR more than they ever thought they would ever receive. Far more, no appeals and paid over 10x the value of their small company.

Fox next pending suit is for $2B for admitted lies and this evidence can be used per legal talking heads.

yea agreed, company with only 17.5 mm annual revenue.  The private equity that owns dominion is definitely feeling pretty dang good.

@wineismylife posted:

Tonight.  Queue Tuck Tuck.

Not a peep from any of the nighttime Fox hosts. 

There is another voting machine case coming along.  Should put the nail in the coffin

@Rothko posted:

Not a peep from any of the nighttime Fox hosts.

I wouldn't know.  I never watch Faux News.

@wineismylife posted:

I wouldn't know.  I never watch Faux News.

I checked the Fox News website. Maybe three lines about it a dozen items down the page. No mention of the amount or any details, just that it was settled and the laughable official statement.

I don't know why would anyone expect Fox News to say anything beyond what they said.  I'm sure the settlement involves no admission of guilt by FN, and includes a non-disparagement clause.  They're acting exactly how I'd expect them to act.  I'm sure stroking the $787 million check makes it clear to everyone what happened and the extent to which Fox believed in the strength of its defense.   There's also further litigation pending as I understand it.  Best to just shut up.

@csm posted:

I don't know why would anyone expect Fox News to say anything beyond what they said.  I'm sure the settlement involves no admission of guilt by FN, and includes a non-disparagement clause.  They're acting exactly how I'd expect them to act.  I'm sure stroking the $787 million check makes it clear to everyone what happened and the extent to which Fox believed in the strength of its defense.   There's also further litigation pending as I understand it.  Best to just shut up.

apparently fox news submitted 4 episodes of simpsons, where homer had difficulty deciding who to pick, as the reason why they needed to speak lies about the election process.

I wonder what Dominion could prove that it suffered in the way of economic or reputational harm had the case gone to trial?  I am sure someone here followed the case more closely than I.  Maybe everyone did.  The S. Ct. has said that punitive damages (which were sought here) have to bear some relationship to compensatory damages.  So, if the case had gone to trial, clearly Dominion could likely prove that Fox put out false information, knowing it was false.

But, what was the exact harm to Dominion? Did they lose customers?

A question for the lawyers here:

@irwin posted:

I wonder what Dominion could prove that it suffered in the way of economic or reputational harm had the case gone to trial?  I am sure someone here followed the case more closely than I.  Maybe everyone did.  The S. Ct. has said that punitive damages (which were sought here) have to bear some relationship to compensatory damages.  So, if the case had gone to trial, clearly Dominion could likely prove that Fox put out false information, knowing it was false.

But, what was the exact harm to Dominion? Did they lose customers?

i think if the assumption is that electronic voting should be the future, and now through lies, the 700 million dollars a year business will be in jeopardy,  And you acn certainly point to quite a few local spots in texas, arizona, colorado where counties are spending millions to go back to hand counting.

I'm sure you can add up not only current losses but future potential revenues too.

As a tax payer, I'm very annoyed that folks would literally make their own lives more expensive.  It's almost like half of this country doesn't pay taxes or something that they can choose things that cost them more money =D

Adios, Tucker.