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@irwin posted:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro...above-222059376.html

Oops.

Meanwhile, in Baltimore, we have a head prosecutor (called the "State's atty) who is elected.  She is under indictment for some mortgage fraud, having signed papers and purchased two properties in Florida, stating to the mortgage company that the houses would be her "principal residence" which, of course, is inconsistent with having to run an office in Baltimore. She is in her low 40's, so it's not a retirement thing.  By lying she got a lower interest rate and has already flipped one of the properties in 1 year or so for a 30% profit, selling it to someone from Baltimore who claims not to know her.  Moreover, claiming financial Hardship to her travel company (which has not yet operated) she obtained some federal loans of covid relief money.  Financial distress for a company that has yet to operate? She makes $250K per year in her job (from which she is absent for about 25% of the time) and her husband, the head of the city council, makes about $125K.  Well, it has now come out that her grandfather contributed to her campaign in 2021 and to her husband's campaign in 2017, based on their disclosure forms.  Nothing wrong there, except the grandfather died in 2015. Another oops.

What is wrong with people? Why do they cheat?  I just don't understand why they think they are immune from prosecution.

What immediately came to mind when I read this.  Not sure why.



Sheeeeiiittt GIF - Sheeeeiiittt GIFs

@napacat posted:

Have to admit I don't know much about her...but not a huge fan of Macron.    People are tired of career politicians.  It's tiring.  Look at Feinstein.  Term limits are desperately needed.

They're both career politicians.

And if people really are tired of career politicians why do they keep electing them?  Maybe because politics is like any other profession:  experience is a good thing?

@bman posted:

They're both career politicians.

And if people really are tired of career politicians why do they keep electing them?  Maybe because politics is like any other profession:  experience is a good thing?

One could easily argue Le Pen is far more the career politician.

Term limits, absolutely agree. I will never forget seeing Storm Thurmond being pushed in for a vote in a wheelchair and his assistant taking his hand to help him actually vote. Term limits and outlaw gerrymandering would be very high on my wish list.

@wine+art posted:

One could easily argue Le Pen is far more the career politician.

Term limits, absolutely agree. I will never forget seeing Storm Thurmond being pushed in for a vote in a wheelchair and his assistant taking his hand to help him actually vote. Term limits and outlaw gerrymandering would be very high on my wish list.

Agree.  I'd add a requirement that all primaries be open, which might help reduce the extremism on both sides when only party loyalists are allowed to vote.  There would be possible downsides (i.e. supporters of one party voting for the worst candidates of the other party) but at the moment it seems that primary candidates try to appeal only to the real nutters in their party. 

I can't imagine what is in a kindergarten or 1st or 2nd grade math text that has anything to do with CRT.  Of course, it has been a lot of time since I've seen a kindergarten math text (if I ever did).  In my view:

One Black person, plus one Latino, plus one Caucasian equals three human beings.  Maybe Gov. de Santis has a different view of this.

@irwin posted:

I can't imagine what is in a kindergarten or 1st or 2nd grade math text that has anything to do with CRT.  Of course, it has been a lot of time since I've seen a kindergarten math text (if I ever did).  In my view:

One Black person, plus one Latino, plus one Caucasian equals three human beings.  Maybe Gov. de Santis has a different view of this.

I have yet to see an example from one of the math texts, would be interesting to see what is so bothersome. 

+1 on your example

@irwin posted:
However, based on what I know about algebra, this page looks pretty fake.

I’m not sure about that, Irwin. Algebra’s pretty dynamic. Aren’t they always adding more numbers and symbols? And the value of  X keeps changing, almost every time it’s used. You could say the same for Y. There's probably a new formula for prostitution that kids have to learn to apply correctly.

i guess that’s why they call it the New Math.

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@Vino Me posted:

Patespo, Here is an example for you. References to rape, prostitution and drug dealing in math text books.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...-examples/ar-AAWiNCz

VM

So interestingly that's not actually from a textbook at all.

It's a single page assignment by someone who thinks folks should learn literature in a different format.  The full page even has "not a math assignment" on it.  Now some teachers, probably are giving it to their math students because .. there are lazy teachers out there.  That meme has been around for over 5?-7? years now

That said, I  am more upset that the current iteration of math in this country forces one to understand english.  English, being such a precise language, is just that much better at teaching algebra, especially when trying to figure out if "kind of", "possibly", really means y=mx+b.   Speaking of offensive, my 2nd grader came home with a , if 3 wise men gave 3 gifts each to our lord and saviour, how many gifts total were given.

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"Speaking of offensive, my 2nd grader came home with a , if 3 wise men gave 3 gifts each to our lord and saviour, how many gifts total were given."

Yes, that is offensive.  My mother went to public schools in Boston and was made to recite the Lord's Prayer and to sing Christmas carols. (We're Jewish).  Of course, the joke was on them as to the singing, since my mother was tone deaf.

@irwin posted:

I can't imagine what is in a kindergarten or 1st or 2nd grade math text that has anything to do with CRT.  Of course, it has been a lot of time since I've seen a kindergarten math text (if I ever did).  In my view:

One Black person, plus one Latino, plus one Caucasian equals three human beings.  Maybe Gov. de Santis has a different view of this.

If you don't know what is in the text book...how can you say you disagree with them not allowing it into the curriculum?

@napacat posted:

If you don't know what is in the text book...how can you say you disagree with them not allowing it into the curriculum?

I'm going to go down the street from my office to visit the local elementary school.  Can't do it until next week. Hopefully, I will make it through security and I will check out our Maryland math texts for little kids.

@g-man posted:

If you don't know what is in the text book... how can you say you agree with them not allowing it into the curriculum?

It is the premise I am not agreeing with.  You don't need to teach Gender identity to K - 3rd grade kids.  I am not the one banning specific books.  You're just conflating the actual argument to try and make a point (which you certainly did not do).  Try again. 

@napacat posted:

It is the premise I am not agreeing with.  You don't need to teach Gender identity to K - 3rd grade kids.  I am not the one banning specific books.  You're just conflating the actual argument to try and make a point (which you certainly did not do).  Try again.

you didnt even see what's in the textbook to make that point. I did and I linked it for  you as an actual source.

As with gender identity, werent you the one pushing for kids to be told they're boys or girls?  Now you're arguing against it?

I'm not conflating anything, you have no argument nor a point.  The best you can do is copy and paste non original ideas that clearly have no logical point nor is backed by your actual study of the topic.

Way to be a lazy sheep.

The fun news of Desantis stripping disney of special status.

i wonder where the two florida counties are going to come up with the billion+ of operating costs to support the facilities that disney currently provides.

Not to mention longer running pension and health benefits that will be offered to the local government employees that will now have to be hired.

@g-man posted:

The fun news of Desantis stripping disney of special status.

i wonder where the two florida counties are going to come up with the billion+ of operating costs to support the facilities that disney currently provides.

Not to mention longer running pension and health benefits that will be offered to the local government employees that will now have to be hired.

Maybe all that tariff money we are “charging China”?

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@g-man posted:

The fun news of Desantis stripping disney of special status.

i wonder where the two florida counties are going to come up with the billion+ of operating costs to support the facilities that disney currently provides.

Not to mention longer running pension and health benefits that will be offered to the local government employees that will now have to be hired.

Don't forget the billion dollars in bonds that'll need to be paid back.  Under Florida law those fall on the entity that takes over once the special district is dissolved.

Unintended consequences DumbAssDeSantis.

Don't forget the billion dollars in bonds that'll need to be paid back.  Under Florida law those fall on the entity that takes over once the special district is dissolved.

Unintended consequences DumbAssDeSantis.

honestly, if i were a major shareholder of disney, I'd heavily ask them to play that exact arbitrage.

I'd load up on 100 billion worth of bonds and stick it to the govt.

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@g-man posted:

you didnt even see what's in the textbook to make that point. I did and I linked it for  you as an actual source.

As with gender identity, werent you the one pushing for kids to be told they're boys or girls?  Now you're arguing against it?

I'm not conflating anything, you have no argument nor a point.  The best you can do is copy and paste non original ideas that clearly have no logical point nor is backed by your actual study of the topic.

Way to be a lazy sheep.

Again...in case you cannot understand...I am opposed to the premise in general (of teaching Gender identity to children in K- 3rd) not a specific book.  One does not need to read a specific book to disagree with the premise.

Kids don't need to be told / taught they are boys or girls...they just are.  You are one or the other. Really quite simple. 

The point is a 3 - 5 year old cannot comprehend the complexities of gender identity.  If you cannot understand that (and the others here)...no point of discussing at all. 

It is quite incomprehensible how anyone could want to teach that to such a young group of children.  That is a parental issue ...

@napacat posted:

Again...in case you cannot understand...I am opposed to the premise in general (of teaching Gender identity to children in K- 3rd) not a specific book.  One does not need to read a specific book to disagree with the premise.

Kids don't need to be told / taught they are boys or girls...they just are.  You are one or the other. Really quite simple.

The point is a 3 - 5 year old cannot comprehend the complexities of gender identity.  If you cannot understand that (and the others here)...no point of discussing at all.

It is quite incomprehensible how anyone could want to teach that to such a young group of children.  That is a parental issue ...

at best a straw man simply because all the text books on the list for k-5th grade math do not actually teach CRT nor discuss gender identity but were banned anyway.

you clearly failed at math back when you attended whatever grade of school you did.  The burden of logical proof is on the accuser, I have given you a clear negative proof that no such topic was in the textbook yet you revert back to baseless statements.

if you can not understand that any asshole can make a random opinion and expect those of us intelligent enough to call bullshit on actually believing said random opinion, then clearly there is little help for you.

The fact that you think governance in this country should actually be run by baseless opinion is even worse.  It's literally that simple.



funny, it's all about choice, until it disagrees with your opinion, then it's about asking the government to force someone else to believe your dumb opinion.

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@g-man posted:

at best a straw man simply because all the text books on the list for k-5th grade math do not actually teach CRT nor discuss gender identity but were banned anyway.

you clearly failed at math back when you attended whatever grade of school you did.  The burden of logical proof is on the accuser, I have given you a clear negative proof that no such topic was in the textbook yet you revert back to baseless statements.

if you can not understand that any asshole can make a random opinion and expect those of us intelligent enough to call bullshit on actually believing said random opinion, then clearly there is little help for you.

The fact that you think governance in this country should actually be run by baseless opinion is even worse.  It's literally that simple.



funny, it's all about choice, until it disagrees with your opinion, then it's about asking the government to force someone else to believe your dumb opinion.

Your last paragraph, G-man, is spot on.  DeSantis would say he’s against the government regulating private industry.  Yet, he wants to regulate Disney. When cruise ships wanted to require proof of vaccination, DeSantis tried to force them not to have that standard, getting into a dust-off with Norwegian cruise line.  Florida has passed a restrictive abortion law, so it’s ok with DeSantis if the government steps into private lives.  
I fear this guy.  He is an angry and evil person.  

@irwin posted:

Your last paragraph, G-man, is spot on.  DeSantis would say he’s against the government regulating private industry.  Yet, he wants to regulate Disney. When cruise ships wanted to require proof of vaccination, DeSantis tried to force them not to have that standard, getting into a dust-off with Norwegian cruise line.  Florida has passed a restrictive abortion law, so it’s ok with DeSantis if the government steps into private lives.  
I fear this guy.  He is an angry and evil person.  

In fairness, you could easily find evidence of such contradictions about virtually every politician not just Ronnie D.

@patespo1 posted:

He thinks he's a smarter version of 45, and is rallying that base for a run in 2024.  I'll be fine if we just keep him sequestered to Florida.

Please NO!!   We need to vote him out in November.  Will be a tough job now that he has reset districts etc. to "eliminate" the black, and democrat voters.   He believes the old rule that blacks are 80% of a person, and he is afraid of them all.  He is evil, satan, and any other word that can apply. He is against free speech as shown in the Disney ruling.  Tries to demonize anyone that disagrees with him.

We have two jerks called senators that will ass kiss all they can, as they wish to draw a salary, and do nothing to earn it.

He'll never make it on the national stage.  For one, he can't control the media in every state and kick out the ones he doesn't want there like he does his press conferences in Florida.  He'll be up 24/7 against bull dog like opposition that want nothing more than to hold him accountable and point out the ignorant lying thieving bastard he his.

He'll never make it on the national stage.  For one, he can't control the media in every state and kick out the ones he doesn't want there like he does his press conferences in Florida.  He'll be up 24/7 against bull dog like opposition that want nothing more than to hold him accountable and point out the ignorant lying thieving bastard he his.

Unless he uses Putin as his media relations consultant.

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