@The Old Man posted:I was thinking of those automatic on whole house generators. I'm not sure how the new law will affect those, but I can't think of anyone that's going to miss gas powered leaf blowers.
what do you mean?
i love those smelly loud obnoxious things
@The Old Man posted:I was thinking of those automatic on whole house generators. I'm not sure how the new law will affect those, but I can't think of anyone that's going to miss gas powered leaf blowers.
They've banned gas powered leaf blowers in my town. Only electric allowed. But some of those electric ones are pretty darn loud too!
@Rothko posted:They've banned gas powered leaf blowers in my town. Only electric allowed. But some of those electric ones are pretty darn loud too!
In an article about this in the LA Times it says, "A gardener pushing a gas-powered mower or blowing leaves is at twice the risk of getting cancer as the average homeowner who hires him, a Berman aide says."
However I can find no citation for this.
@The Old Man posted:In an article about this in the LA Times it says, "A gardener pushing a gas-powered mower or blowing leaves is at twice the risk of getting cancer as the average homeowner who hires him, a Berman aide says."
However I can find no citation for this.
Wow, that's some Pulitzer-worthy writing there. I'm pretty sure a crab fisherman is at more risk of traumatic death than I am buying some crab legs at the store.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...APHFc8?ocid=msedgntp
one of the greatest ways to get a bunch of climate change deniers to listen to a climate change speech. I lol'ed
Well this is not good, "Lyft Says 1,807 Sexual Assaults Occurred in Rides in 2019."
A possible problem for Alec Baldwin is that he is the sole producer of the movie Rust. It is not good that local union workers walked off the job and were replaced by local non-union members. There may be some liability there since these union members had complained of, among other things, safety violations including concerns about prop gun handling on the set. There had already been more than one incident on the set concerning firearms.
@The Old Man posted:A possible problem for Alec Baldwin is that he is the sole producer of the movie Rust. It is not good that local union workers walked off the job and were replaced by local non-union members. There may be some liability there since these union members had complained of, among other things, safety violations including concerns about prop gun handling on the set. There had already been more than one incident on the set concerning firearms.
Tragic any way you look at it. I see no saving grace here anywhere, unless you count the director who survived.
Wow….The Old Man avoided on commenting on my post to him. That speaks volumes. I’ll take it asa win.
i know Alec is a raging left wing nut…but I really like him and feel terrible for him. Just don’t know how that happens. Why doesn’t the actor pull the trigger first at some inanimate object to make sure all is well?
I know next to nothing about guns. If one bullet was fired, how is it that one person was killed and another wounded? Does that mean the same bullet struck both of them?
Pardon my ignorance.
Not to diminish in any way the seriousness of what happened, Irwin, but your question reminds me of the Magic Bullet Theory.
@irwin posted:I know next to nothing about guns. If one bullet was fired, how is it that one person was killed and another wounded? Does that mean the same bullet struck both of them?
Pardon my ignorance.
Remember these guns are not loaded with bullets. They are referred to as "live round", but the charge is usually a quarter the normal gunpowder load. Then the bullet is capped with either with cotton or paper wadding. Now remember the last related major tragedy is the time in 1984 actor Jon-Erik Hexum placed a blank load against his head and the impact of the fill killed him.
Now we have to guess until the information comes out. I'm guessing the director was standing next to the cinematographer lining or shooting a take. Baldwin must have been instructed to shoot at, or toward, the camera. Since the bullet shell does not have a solid object (a bullet) but instead wadding spewing out with great force, perhaps parts of it went in more than one direction (but close by.)
The crew was partly composed of last minute non-union crew members. As I said the regular crew members had expressed concerns about on site safety issues. One complaint is they weren't getting their morning safety briefings. This is unheard of with professional crews when "live rounds" on used on the set.
@The Old Man posted:Remember these guns are not loaded with bullets. They are referred to as "live round", but the charge is usually a quarter the normal gunpowder load. Then the bullet is capped with either with cotton or paper wadding. Now remember the last related major tragedy is the time in 1984 actor Jon-Erik Hexum placed a blank load against his head and the impact of the fill killed him.
Now we have to guess until the information comes out. I'm guessing the director was standing next to the cinematographer lining or shooting a take. Baldwin must have been instructed to shoot at, or toward, the camera. Since the bullet shell does not have a solid object (a bullet) but instead wadding spewing out with great force, perhaps parts of it went in more than one direction (but close by.)
The crew was partly composed of last minute non-union crew members. As I said the regular crew members had expressed concerns about on site safety issues. One complaint is they weren't getting their morning safety briefings. This is unheard of with professional crews when "live rounds" on used on the set.
Decent insight…but another reply by TOM ignoring a post…speaks volumes as mentioned prior! Things are moving in the right direction yes?
From the LA Times: "As an armorer on film sets, Hannah Gutierrez Reed [24] often encountered cast and crew members who were scared of guns. But the part of her work she most relished was helping to shift that narrative, showing the world that 'guns are awesome.'
“'I think the best part about my job is just showing people who are normally kind of freaked out by guns how safe they can be and how they’re not really problematic unless put in the wrong hands,' Reed said in a podcast interview in September."
Rust was her second job as lead armorer.
Looks like he was rehearsing with what he was told was a "cold gun." The rest goes as I said. he pointed it towards were the camera would be at the the director and cinematographer.
I for one when I had guns, or passed to me, I always checked the chambers, and made sure it was unloaded. As I remember, many unloaded guns killed people when cleaning them.
On the hand - Real bullets and/or guns should not be in any work place, except a police station, or military post.
Open carry in Texas will be a disaster very soon with nuts and guns
@flwino posted:I for one when I had guns, or passed to me, I always checked the chambers, and made sure it was unloaded. As I remember, many unloaded guns killed people when cleaning them.
On the hand - Real bullets and/or guns should not be in any work place, except a police station, or military post.
Open carry in Texas will be a disaster very soon with nuts and guns
these were prop guns loaded with 1/4 - 1/2 amount of gunpowder charges and supposedly no bullet. so propellent only.
open carry really isn't the issue. If someone open carries they simply paint a big "I'm an asshole sign on their backs" and will warrant many calls to law enforcement.
It's the accessibility of the guns that is more of a concern.
Ugh, it was a real bullet. Note the sheriff and the film crew are defining "live round " differently.
And another press conference where you can't here the questions. When will they learn?
This "armorer" was no professional. It's being learned now that there were at least 2 other misfires prior to this incident, which was part of what lead the union crew to walk off the set the week before. And there were multiple real bullets mixed in with blanks and wadcutters on the set and in the armorer's trailer. As said before, there is never any reason real bullets should be on a movie set. Baldwin, the actor, will not face any consequences for this tragic accident. But Baldwin, the executive producer, certainly will. They said the budget for this movie was $6-$7 million, paltry by today's standards, so it must have been a labor of love for him.
I own guns. I have friends and relatives that own guns. Every gun owner I know was raised to believe that they are not play toys; they are weapons, and should be treated with all the care of plutonium. That's mainly why that girl's cavalier attitude chaps my hide. It's people like her that give all responsible gun owners a bad name.
With all the expertise in special effects, making it look like people and cars fly, and all that other stuff, why can't they use fake guns that look like real guns and sound like real guns. This is supposed to be the "creative arts."
When a war movie is made, like, say "Saving Private Ryan" and there are many scenes with many guns firing, are they using real bullets?
Even with all the progress in CGI, there is still a difference between the real thing and computerized graphics. When you see a real explosion in an older movie (for example, when they blow up the compound in the Road Warrior or the napalm scene in Apocalypse Now) and compare it to a CGI explosion (like anything in the Marvel movies or even the new Midway movie), you can really see the difference.
I assume the same would be for some scenes where they want to get some footage of real guns.
@mneeley490 posted:Baldwin, the actor, will not face any consequences for this tragic accident. But Baldwin, the executive producer, certainly will. They said the budget for this movie was $6-$7 million, paltry by today's standards, so it must have been a labor of love for him.
He's the producer which is kind of a fluid term currently (a producer who fulfills the true duties of a producer, as defined by the Producers Guild of American, has the small cap initials, p.g.a. after their names in the credits.) But remember--when suing, go where the money is.
@Rothko posted:...CGI explosion (like anything in the Marvel movies or even the new Midway movie), you can really see the difference.
Midway looked like a video game half the time.
@Rothko posted:Even with all the progress in CGI, there is still a difference between the real thing and computerized graphics. When you see a real explosion in an older movie (for example, when they blow up the compound in the Road Warrior or the napalm scene in Apocalypse Now) and compare it to a CGI explosion (like anything in the Marvel movies or even the new Midway movie), you can really see the difference.
I assume the same would be for some scenes where they want to get some footage of real guns.
you can definitely recreate the same feel and explosion via cgi
except it just cost alot more to do it in a computer than to just blow up/ fire the real thing, so they don't and when t hey do, they make it grander
Well wasn't that VA election delightful. Faith restored in American voters.
@napacat posted:Well wasn't that VA election delightful. Faith restored in American voters.
Wait... I thought that the elections were inherently unreliable and that there was rampant voter fraud and tampering with ballots and illegal aliens and dead people voting, and voting machines being tampered with by dead Venezuelans and the Chinese, and the Iranians, and the Russians, and the Martians!
Or does that just happen when a Republican loses? If he wins, everything was OK and the American voters knew what they were doing?
Fun fact: 1 trillion seconds= 31,710 years. Now convert that into dollars.
@mneeley490 posted:Fun fact: 1 trillion seconds= 31,710 years. Now convert that into dollars.
Easy. $1,000,000,000,000.00
@The Old Man posted:Easy. $1,000,000,000,000.00
he didnt say us dollars so the answer is clearly 1,000,000,000,000,000 D
@Rothko posted:Wait... I thought that the elections were inherently unreliable and that there was rampant voter fraud and tampering with ballots and illegal aliens and dead people voting, and voting machines being tampered with by dead Venezuelans and the Chinese, and the Iranians, and the Russians, and the Martians!
Or does that just happen when a Republican loses? If he wins, everything was OK and the American voters knew what they were doing?
shh, asking them to do logic hurts their ability to copy and paste
Our state idiot is thinking of an audit of our ballots. Like the buffoon won by close to 400k votes. are they looking to increase it?
@flwino posted:Our state idiot is thinking of an audit of our ballots. Like the buffoon won by close to 400k votes. are they looking to increase it?
it's all fun and games when it's someone else's money.
then complain how everyone else wastes tax payer's monies
Floor mat slipped coming out of the shower. Faceplant —> torn rotator cuff (or possibly bad sprain in the shoulder). Can’t drive. Not calling ambulance due to this fucking thing. Got a telemed doctor’s visit in 1 1/2 hours and an orthopedic sling on the way. We’ll figure it out from there.
@winetarelli posted:Floor mat slipped coming out of the shower. Faceplant —> torn rotator cuff (or possibly bad sprain in the shoulder). Can’t drive. Not calling ambulance due to this fucking thing. Got a telemed doctor’s visit in 1 1/2 hours and an orthopedic sling on the way. We’ll figure it out from there.
Sorry to hear that.. ICE IT right away!
And, don't take any ivermectin.
If you have to go get xrays or a cat scan, go do it. Don't neglect an injury like that because you are worried about going out in these times.
@Rothko posted:If you have to go get xrays or a cat scan, go do it. Don't neglect an injury like that because you are worried about going out in these times.
Thanks. On telemed in 20 minutes. If my doc says I need an MRI or whatever, then I’ll do it, of course. Better by appointment in a carefully selected orthopedist’s office than at urgent care or hospital, was my thought.
@Rothko posted:If you have to go get xrays or a cat scan, go do it. Don't neglect an injury like that because you are worried about going out in these times.
Yep. Doc said due diligence is to get it X-rayed. Ugh. Welp, that’s tomorrow.
I've had rotator cuff surgery on both shoulders (ski fall/ bike crash). If you have surgery, my best advice is get a recliner. Sleep is almost impossible any other way. Also hope you get a great ortho if necessary.
Kamala Harris' approval rating hit 28%, a historic low for any modern VP; even beat Dick Cheney. Biden's at 38%
Kamala Harris's approval rating falls to 28%, a historic low for any modern vice president (msn.com)
@winetarelli posted:Yep. Doc said due diligence is to get it X-rayed. Ugh. Welp, that’s tomorrow.
Xrays won’t hurt. But a torn rotator cuff is diagnosed with an MRI. The problem is that upwards of 20% of people over forty have torn rotator cuffs and are asymptomatic. Good luck.
