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If I were on the Senate Judiciary committee, I’d ask Judge Barrett:
Q:  Was there communication between you and the White House prior to your Rose Garden introduction ceremony  regarding whether you, your spouse and children would wear masks, and, if so, what was it?
She either says there was no communication, or she says there was and she’s not disclosing what it was, or she says there was communication and she was told not to wear a mask, or there was communication and she was told it was up to her.
If she says there was no communication, or that there was communication and it was left up to her, then I’d ask:

Q: So, it was your own judgment that neither you nor your family would wear masks, despite the pandemic, despite the fact that several hundred people would gather maskless in close quarters?
She’d have to say yes.
Q: What sort of level headed judgment does that show for someone who has been nominated to the S. Ct.?
If she says there was communication, but she’s not disclosing what it was, then I’d ask:
Q: If there was communication, and you were asked not to wear a mask doesn’t that suggest that you will defer to President Trump’s bidding in other respects?
Q: If there was communication, couldn’t you have said to the President, “My choice for myself and my family would be to wear a mask?”
Q: You have praised the late Justice Ginsburg as a role model.  Wouldn’t wearing a mask be a good role model for citizens of the US....If they see a high government official wearing a mask, wouldn’t that tell them that it is a good idea to do so?
Q: Most if not all states require parents to secure their children in motor vehicles with seat belts or appropriate child safety devices.  The government requires this to protect these children.
Isn’t putting a mask on a child who is going to be at an event with a hundred or more people, not wearing masks, sitting close together, a lot like wearing a seatbelt?
But, I'm not on that committee.
@patespo1 posted:

So a SC Justice being appointed lasts longer than being dead?

We all know by now this is a little game he likes to play as the "devil's advocate." If not answering this question is balanced against all the horrors we've seen the last four years, and watching the hypocritical Repubs in the Senate,  I think Biden's fine not directly answering this question at this time.

@irwin posted:
If I were on the Senate Judiciary committee, I’d ask Judge Barrett:
Q:  Was there communication between you and the White House prior to your Rose Garden introduction ceremony  regarding whether you, your spouse and children would wear masks, and, if so, what was it?
She either says there was no communication, or she says there was and she’s not disclosing what it was, or she says there was communication and she was told not to wear a mask, or there was communication and she was told it was up to her.
If she says there was no communication, or that there was communication and it was left up to her, then I’d ask:

Q: So, it was your own judgment that neither you nor your family would wear masks, despite the pandemic, despite the fact that several hundred people would gather maskless in close quarters?
She’d have to say yes.
Q: What sort of level headed judgment does that show for someone who has been nominated to the S. Ct.?
If she says there was communication, but she’s not disclosing what it was, then I’d ask:
Q: If there was communication, and you were asked not to wear a mask doesn’t that suggest that you will defer to President Trump’s bidding in other respects?
Q: If there was communication, couldn’t you have said to the President, “My choice for myself and my family would be to wear a mask?”
Q: You have praised the late Justice Ginsburg as a role model.  Wouldn’t wearing a mask be a good role model for citizens of the US....If they see a high government official wearing a mask, wouldn’t that tell them that it is a good idea to do so?
Q: Most if not all states require parents to secure their children in motor vehicles with seat belts or appropriate child safety devices.  The government requires this to protect these children.
Isn’t putting a mask on a child who is going to be at an event with a hundred or more people, not wearing masks, sitting close together, a lot like wearing a seatbelt?
But, I'm not on that committee.

The event was outside.  

@napacat posted:

The event was outside.  

Napacat:  I referred to it as having taken place in the Rose Garden which is outside. I know it is outside.  Despite that it was outside, it has been characterized by Dr. Fauci as a "superspreader" event.  It is indeed fortunate that it was not inside.  What's the latest count on the number of people infected at that event? 34?  https://news.yahoo.com/too-tra...house-025127348.html

Of course, after the outdoor event with around 200 people, some reception of some sort took place inside with somewhat fewer people but also very few masks.

Don't even you, Napacat, agree that it is very poor judgment to attend an event like this, with dozens of persons sitting next to one another without masks?  The Supreme Court has heard arguments over a zoom network, you know.  Yes, I know that their hearings are inside.

@irwin posted:

Napacat:  I referred to it as having taken place in the Rose Garden which is outside. I know it is outside.  Despite that it was outside, it has been characterized by Dr. Fauci as a "superspreader" event.  It is indeed fortunate that it was not inside.  What's the latest count on the number of people infected at that event? 34?  https://news.yahoo.com/too-tra...house-025127348.html

Of course, after the outdoor event with around 200 people, some reception of some sort took place inside with somewhat fewer people but also very few masks.

Don't even you, Napacat, agree that it is very poor judgment to attend an event like this, with dozens of persons sitting next to one another without masks?  The Supreme Court has heard arguments over a zoom network, you know.  Yes, I know that their hearings are inside.

When Putin’s Bitch recently said he wanted to kiss all the guys and gals at one of his rallies, you can bet Napacat would’ve elbowed dummies out of the way to be at the front of the line for the Putin’s Bitch kissing booth.......

@irwin posted:

Don't even you, Napacat, agree that it is very poor judgment to attend an event like this, with dozens of persons sitting next to one another without masks?  The Supreme Court has heard arguments over a zoom network, you know.  Yes, I know that their hearings are inside.

What a nice civil response. Unfortunately the answer is no, he's too ignorant to understand it. I have to, after all this time, and with the many disagreements I've gotten into with other people here, say that he is the only person here who I truly think is just plain stupid.

I actually was going to post that a few months ago but I thought it would be too mean. However with his constant trolling with inane points, this title is well deserved.

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In May, Fox News portrayed it as one of the greatest political scandals in American history. Ever! The Obamagate scandal of Obama, his administration and Biden had participated in a “ deep State” plot against Trump in the 2016 election.

Barr, Trump’s AG and personal attorney ordered federal prosecutors to get to the bottom of this!

When news broke of America suffered its 100,000 death, Fox reported about Obamagate. When America passed 200,000 deaths and Covid became the second leading cause of death, Fox News Bret Baier hosted a follow up on Obamagate with conspiracy commentator Mollie Hemingway.

Tucker Carlson called it domestic spying hidden under the pretext of national security.

Sean Hannity declared, “ the biggest abuse of power and corruption scandal America had ever seen. “

Laura Ingraham said top Obama administration officials had been exposed.


The Justice Department concluded no evidence of such and closed the investigation yesterday.  Fox News has declined requests for comments.

Fox News feeds Trump’s ignorant fucks what they want to hear and they eat it up! 🤣😂😅.  They too will believe this shit and take it to their grave, regardless.

Oh, one must also love what Tucker Carlson’s attorney said in court about him; no one believes what Mr. Carlson reports. They know he doesn’t tell the truth. It is just entertainment. Well, at least Tucker’s attorneys know he is a lying POS and said it in court on the record.

@irwin posted:

Napacat:  I referred to it as having taken place in the Rose Garden which is outside. I know it is outside.  Despite that it was outside, it has been characterized by Dr. Fauci as a "superspreader" event.  It is indeed fortunate that it was not inside.  What's the latest count on the number of people infected at that event? 34?  https://news.yahoo.com/too-tra...house-025127348.html

Of course, after the outdoor event with around 200 people, some reception of some sort took place inside with somewhat fewer people but also very few masks.

Don't even you, Napacat, agree that it is very poor judgment to attend an event like this, with dozens of persons sitting next to one another without masks?  The Supreme Court has heard arguments over a zoom network, you know.  Yes, I know that their hearings are inside.

Irwin,



I'm not 100% sure that they can pinpoint where anyone contracts c-19 with certainty.  An inside reception makes a little more sense though.

I really would have no problem attending an outside event like that.

We have a cumulative total of 2% of the population testing positive...many have since recovered.

@irwin posted:
If I were on the Senate Judiciary committee, I’d ask Judge Barrett:
Q:  Was there communication between you and the White House prior to your Rose Garden introduction ceremony  regarding whether you, your spouse and children would wear masks, and, if so, what was it?
She either says there was no communication, or she says there was and she’s not disclosing what it was, or she says there was communication and she was told not to wear a mask, or there was communication and she was told it was up to her.
If she says there was no communication, or that there was communication and it was left up to her, then I’d ask:

Q: So, it was your own judgment that neither you nor your family would wear masks, despite the pandemic, despite the fact that several hundred people would gather maskless in close quarters?
She’d have to say yes.
Q: What sort of level headed judgment does that show for someone who has been nominated to the S. Ct.?
If she says there was communication, but she’s not disclosing what it was, then I’d ask:
Q: If there was communication, and you were asked not to wear a mask doesn’t that suggest that you will defer to President Trump’s bidding in other respects?
Q: If there was communication, couldn’t you have said to the President, “My choice for myself and my family would be to wear a mask?”
Q: You have praised the late Justice Ginsburg as a role model.  Wouldn’t wearing a mask be a good role model for citizens of the US....If they see a high government official wearing a mask, wouldn’t that tell them that it is a good idea to do so?
Q: Most if not all states require parents to secure their children in motor vehicles with seat belts or appropriate child safety devices.  The government requires this to protect these children.
Isn’t putting a mask on a child who is going to be at an event with a hundred or more people, not wearing masks, sitting close together, a lot like wearing a seatbelt?
But, I'm not on that committee.

You’re in good company.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDBvYZH6xo0

Washington Post, "As he battles for seniors’ votes, Trump tweets a meme mocking Biden as elderly and disabled."

Certainly a stable genius. Seniors are currently polling something like 65% Biden , 30% Trump. But yeah, mock Biden as being too old, great way to bring him the large senior vote.

If our 4 year long national nightmare ends this year Trump can look right to himself. I've said before that if he had acted like a halfway decent human being over the coronavirus he would probably be at 60% approval rating.

@The Old Man posted:

Washington Post, "As he battles for seniors’ votes, Trump tweets a meme mocking Biden as elderly and disabled."

Certainly a stable genius. Seniors are currently polling something like 65% Biden , 30% Trump. But yeah, mock Biden as being too old, great way to bring him the large senior vote.

If our 4 year long national nightmare ends this year Trump can look right to himself. I've said before that if he had acted like a halfway decent human being over the coronavirus he would probably be at 60% approval rating.

The other issue is that Biden has always been a foot-in-mouth guy, but he is really quite aware and not senile. That may seem a low bar, but by Trump and others placing it there, once viewers actually see Biden clearing it by a mile, it works to his advantage.

"In perhaps his most incendiary remarks, Mr. Trump repeatedly declined to disavow QAnon, a pro-Trump internet community that has been described by law enforcement as a potential domestic terrorism threat. The president professed to have no knowledge of the group, and as a result could not disavow it, but then demonstrated specific knowledge of one of its core conspiracy theories involving pedophilia that is entirely false.

“'I know nothing about it,' Mr. Trump said. 'I do know they are very much against pedophilia. They fight it very hard.'" -- NYT

There is no way that we will ever be able to understand what is in the minds of people who support this man.

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