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In political news from somewhere other than the US (yes, there are other countries and many also have politics!),  Canada's Official Opposition party, the Conservatives, elected a new leader last night! 

Well, actually it was very early this morning since the vote count was delayed over six hours because some machines used to open envelopes with ballots shredded them instead. Not a great look for a party trying to show they are ready to govern! 

 

 

@bman posted:

In political news from somewhere other than the US (yes, there are other countries and many also have politics!),  Canada's Official Opposition party, the Conservatives, elected a new leader last night! 

Well, actually it was very early this morning since the vote count was delayed over six hours because some machines used to open envelopes with ballots shredded them instead. Not a great look for a party trying to show they are ready to govern! 

 

 

Luckily Boy Wonder and his ilk haven’t set the bar terribly high. 

@Rothko posted:

I wonder what happened in the Conway household this weekend.

The actual answer for those who don’t know:  Claudia, their 15 year old daughter, has been publicly enraged at her mother on social media for a while. On late Saturday night / early Sunday morning Claudia started posting about getting emancipated and laying into her mother as an abuser. (She made it clear she isn’t fond of her father’s philosophies either.)  She explicitly stated she had been abused by her mother beyond her mother’s work. The level of attack, and Claudia’s sense of being her mother’s victim was profound. Who knows what happened behind the scenes, but this is obviously an attempt on KellyAnne and George’s part to save their children. (I don’t believe their marriage could possibly survive.)  The first honorable thing KA has done, maybe ever in her life. I hope they can find some way to be a family. 

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@The Old Man posted:

Democracy or a dictatorship. What's her third choice?

She is a child. She’s 15. I’d cut her some slack, but she specifically mentioned her father being anti-abortion as an example of her opposition to her dad.  Though, it was exclusively her mother she labeled as an abuser or a person who didn’t care about her. The vast majority of this is her (justifiable) outrage at her mother. There are three other children, but they don’t have social media presences, so I don’t know the total extent of this. 

@winetarelli posted:

She is a child. She’s 15. I’d cut her some slack, but she specifically mentioned her father being anti-abortion as an example of her opposition to her dad.  Though, it was exclusively her mother she labeled as an abuser or a person who didn’t care about her. The vast majority of this is her (justifiable) outrage at her mother. There are three other children, but they don’t have social media presences, so I don’t know the total extent of this. 

One of those other kids is her twin brother.  I bet he's not enjoying this ride.  But kudos to the parents for apparently, eventually, putting their kids first, even if it took too long

So weed is illegal in Texas.  Big whoop.  Nobody smokes weed here.  Yeah, right.   You can't drink and drive in Texas but we do it anyway.    You can't have gay sex in Texas but guess what?  Yep, we have gays and I'm 99.9% confident they occasionally have sex.   

When it comes to vices i always seem to go overboard. Ie wines so its not about being able to get some. Its about not being labeled a drug king pin hehe

@The Old Man posted:

Another big Trump supporter, Jerry Falwell Jr, discovered that everything Trump touches turns to shit.

So Trump's friends include a child molester (Epstein), two swingers (Roger Stone, Jerry Jr, & their wives.); and a sex trafficker and child porn enthusiast (George Nadler). I don't know, I could be blocking some others.  Not to mention his own escapades with beauty contestants, porn stars, Playboy bunnies, and anybody else who couldn't run away fast enough.

And we're supposed to believe there isn't a "pee-pee" tape?

@mneeley490 posted:

So Trump's friends include a child molester (Epstein), two swingers (Roger Stone, Jerry Jr, & their wives.); and a sex trafficker and child porn enthusiast (George Nadler). I don't know, I could be blocking some others.  Not to mention his own escapades with beauty contestants, porn stars, Playboy bunnies, and anybody else who couldn't run away fast enough.

And we're supposed to believe there isn't a "pee-pee" tape?

Morally speaking, at least the way I use the term, President T. is a disaster.  Not that Bill Clinton was exactly virtuous. 

@Rothko posted:

Say what you want politically about George Bush and Barack Obama, but each of them spent 8 years in the Oval Office and there wasn't a whiff of personal or moral issues for either of them.

And they have the ability to act collegially, treat each other and the office with respect and dignity and not act like an insane child - despite very different political views on just about everything (as had most prior presidents)

@irwin posted:

I wonder if ex-Pres. Bush is contemplating announcing support for Biden.  If he did that around 9/1 that would be of potential impact, I guess.

It is hard to believe I spent so much time litigating the 2000 presidential election and thinking how dire the consequences were when the Supreme Court (although the conservatives claims to not be activists of course) handed the election to W - when compared to now, it seems basically trivial (apart from the wars etc. of course)

Watching a truly a bizarre press conference with the Sheriff for Kenosha. After 30 minutes there still is no talk about the shooting in the back of Jacob Blake and no talk yet about the person arrested for a killing last night. It was so weird, that MSNBC decided to cut away from the conference because there was no important information coming out of it.

Interesting that the Census considers people from the southern Mediterranean "white".  I'm not necessarily disagreeing; "whiteness" is a social construct; there is no obvious reason why Greeks and Armenians (and even Mizrahi Jews) should be "white" whereas Turks and Lebanese shouldn't be.  But it is still interesting to see Lebanon listed as a possible origin of white people on the Census.

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"And people trying to change the rules to this methodology, which as a matter of logic is very open to fraud and coercion, is reckless and dangerous. And people are playing with fire."

This is just made for a high school debate class lesson. His main claim that a foreign country might "mail thousands of fake ballots..." is not based on evidence or even intelligence but on his claim of logic. What an abomination, what a travesty that this is the number one enabler of the grifter in chief.

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The President's reported remarks about the military are just despicable. 

We were at both Belleau Woods and the cemetery at Aisne-Marne.  Went there in May of 2018, on a trip to Champagne.  It was drizzling when we were at both of them.  Didn't matter.  These were our brave Marines and other soldiers.  They were neither suckers nor losers.  If you get a chance to go to the Champagne region, I recommend that you stop at these two sites to pay homage to these fine people, who gave their lives in service to our country. The memory of these heroes should be eternally honored, not besmirched by the bone spur President.

 

Excerpts from the Woodward book today. Besides TOMs excerpt above, there are so many others that would end the career of any other politician, and most seem to be on tape. Woodward had 18 on the record chats. Also chats with Kushner and others who have not commented on the record previously. 

Looking forward to seeing Trump and his flying monkeys try to weasel out of it this time!

@bman posted:

Excerpts from the Woodward book today. Besides TOMs excerpt above, there are so many others that would end the career of any other politician, and most seem to be on tape. Woodward had 18 on the record chats. Also chats with Kushner and others who have not commented on the record previously. 

Looking forward to seeing Trump and his flying monkeys try to weasel out of it this time!

Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter. A frighteningly large percentage of voters are some combination of ignorance, racism, paranoia, and stupid enough to deserve having been aborted.

And that doesn’t even include the moronic, gibbering fuckmook Qanon jerkoffs.

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