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@irwin posted:

how the heck did you do that?

I'm going to the office every day, although not for as long as normal.  So I'm not in the house with little to do but eat!   I've started having a snack (nuts/cheese/trail mix) etc. mid-morning, a real meal anywhere between 2-4 PM, and then a little snack if I get hungry in the later part of the day. No junk.  Few sweets.  Also walking daily for at least 40 minutes.  The pounds just started coming off.  

PH

@napacat posted:

And the Justice department is dropping the case against Flynn.    Things are heading in the right direction.  Let's get to the bottom of the Democrat nonsense and absolutely illegality of what they tried to get away with.  

According to Yahoo, "Tana Mongeau Just Wore the *Super Hot* Bikini Trend Instagram is Obsessed With"

About as useful as your pathetic troll posts.

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@napacat posted:

And the Justice department is dropping the case against Flynn.    Things are heading in the right direction.  Let's get to the bottom of the Democrat nonsense and absolutely illegality of what they tried to get away with.  

Let's see...Barr's hand-picked US Attorney recommends that the case against Flynn, who was awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty to lying to Federal investigators, recommends to Barr that the case be dropped.

Nope. No conflict seen here.

@mneeley490 posted:

Let's see...Barr's hand-picked US Attorney recommends that the case against Flynn, who was awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty to lying to Federal investigators, recommends to Barr that the case be dropped.

Nope. No conflict seen here.

Well, it invalidates the entire Special Counsel statute.  The Deputy AG, who was appointed by Trump, was the person who appointed the SC and signed off on his actions.  Flynn pleaded guilty.  The entire reason for a SC is to insulate the investigation from politics.  Once the SC's job had run its course the President's new AG made an expressly political decision -- we know it was, because the man had already pleaded guilty: a plea sought by the SC and signed off on *both* by the Trump appointee overseeing the SC as well as the Federal judge on the case and Flynn's own lawyers.  We might as well not have SCs if once the job is over the political appointees can then undo the jobs of the SC.

So much of what we have taken for granted is that our elected officials are not craven authoritarians looking for any possible way to subvert our system of checks and balances.  No one ever thought to spell out that once a SC's job is complete the President can't fire everyone and then appoint an AG who will refuse to abide the SC.  It was never in anyone's mindset that that needed to be said... perhaps partially because it was understood if a President were to try it he would be impeached and removed.  Boy, were we wrong.

@napacat posted:

And the Justice department is dropping the case against Flynn.    Things are heading in the right direction.  Let's get to the bottom of the Democrat nonsense and absolutely illegality of what they tried to get away with.  

I know you're just trolling us but only a Trumpanzee with no understanding of or respect for the basic institutions of democracy would celebrate such a shameless breach of the rule of law. Even just trolling us, you embarrass yourself. Again.  America is a global laughingstock and will suffer mightily in the future for it, thanks to people like you. 

At this point with the ineptitude, lies, lack of humanity and empathy, pushing of non-scientific magic cures, the inciting of insurrection and all the other horrors we've seen come out of this Administration during this pandemic and the daily attacks on our democracy, I tell you this straight, you are an enemy of the United States if you vote for this man in November. Just as surely as Jefferson Davis was an enemy.

And no I will not be debating trolls. And for the record there's no such thing as the "Democrat" Party as this asshole (whose name I will not be typing again from this point on) knows.

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I just watched a YouTube video on the problems Disney was having in the last 10 years of Michael Eisner. His best years were at the beginning when he became was hot in his early days as Disney's chairman and CEO with Frank Wells becoming COO and president. Wells tragic death in a helicopter crash in 1994 at 62 years of age gave Eisner a chance to take over full control of the company. A string of 10 years of bad business decisions found him in 2004 with 43% of withholding their proxie votes to re-elect him to the board.

Now we have president, one who was supposedly "hired" for the job for his great business experience and reputation for surrounding himself with only the best. And the result from his denials, and slowness to act and refusal to believe the scientists, and actually musing about injecting household cleaners is thousands of more deaths than there should be and thousands more that will be.

Some of Michael Eisner's poor decisions led to the building on the cheap of California Adventure and Disney Hong Kong. The failed virtual reality entertainment centers called Disney Quest and their losing the crown of best, and most profitable, animation studio. For these things he was gone from the company by 2005.

Now comes our sharp businessman president. His failings have led to the greatest financial crisis since the great depression and tens of thousands of avoidable deaths. Unless you're a pretty dense shareholder it's pretty easy to see where your vote should go.

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The crazy thing is how copacetic this space would be if Kasich or Huntsman, or even friggin' Jeb were President.  We're all accustomed to having people who love this country but whose politics we disagree with run the place.  We're just not accustomed -- nor should we ever be -- to having villains run the place.  

John McCain's view of Obama was that he is a patriot with whom McCain had strong disagreements.  Unfortunately, fueled by a combination of factors including racial animus, "Conservative" media pounded away at the proposition that Obama was villainous. The greatest President of most of our lifetimes -- according both to scholars as well as to the populace at large -- about a third of the country grew to irrationally disdain.  And those people, making up the vast majority of the Republican Party chose to "get back" at the rest of the country by electing and then propping up the stupidest, most uninformed, most incompetent, most selfish, most psychologically disturbed President in our nation's history.  

I make no secret that there are aspects of the modern Left I find deeply troubling.  Despite having more in common policy-wise with AOC and her ilk, there are basic points of small "l" liberalism that would likely cause me to prefer to throw my lot in with Nicole Wallace, Joe Scarborough, Steve Schmidt, etc and then work them from the left.  But every Republican "Classic", such as I just mentioned,  is a Biden supporter.  Because, as obnoxious as the cultural far-left is, they understand, as do most on this board, that Donald Trump and his cronies represent a threat to the very most basic theories and principles this -- and every -- liberal democracy is founded upon.

@bman posted:

I know you're just trolling us but only a Trumpanzee with no understanding of or respect for the basic institutions of democracy would celebrate such a shameless breach of the rule of law. Even just trolling us, you embarrass yourself. Again.  America is a global laughingstock and will suffer mightily in the future for it, thanks to people like you. 

@bman posted:

I know you're just trolling us but only a Trumpanzee with no understanding of or respect for the basic institutions of democracy would celebrate such a shameless breach of the rule of law. Even just trolling us, you embarrass yourself. Again.  America is a global laughingstock and will suffer mightily in the future for it, thanks to people like you. 

Napa continues to be living proof you can’t fix dumb. 

Democrats? Facts. Flynn hired by republican. Flynn fired by republican for lying to both the president and VP. Flynn lied and admitted he lied to FBI about his illegal dealings with foreign powers. Again, lied and broke the law by not registering so he could steal millions and not pay taxes. 

Federal judge reviews all the evidence collected by a Trump appointed AG and vetted by a republican justice department and tells Flynn he betrayed his country. Betrayed his country. What an officer and gentleman. 

Democrats? 🤣😂😅

As I said, you cannot fix dumb and our poster child of dumb, stupid and willfully ignorant steps in his own shit with regularity. 

@csm posted:

No, it won't. 

It's already happening, actually. No country, not even the US, can get ahead without working with other countries. But thanks to people like Napa, Trump was elected and is trying to show that the US can go it alone on many fronts. No one takes him or the US seriously as a trusted partner in international affairs any more. Once he and the sycophants he's out in key positions like Pompeo and Barr are gone the damage can begin to be repaired but it will take time and some damage will likely never be fixed. Trust takes a long time to build but very little to destroy. 

@wine+art posted:

Napa continues to be living proof you can’t fix dumb. 

Democrats? Facts. Flynn hired by republican. Flynn fired by republican for lying to both the president and VP. Flynn lied and admitted he lied to FBI about his illegal dealings with foreign powers. Again, lied and broke the law by not registering so he could steal millions and not pay taxes. 

Federal judge reviews all the evidence collected by a Trump appointed AG and vetted by a republican justice department and tells Flynn he betrayed his country. Betrayed his country. What an officer and gentleman. 

Democrats? 🤣😂😅

As I said, you cannot fix dumb and our poster child of dumb, stupid and willfully ignorant steps in his own shit with regularity. 

The facts will continue to come out.   You all are kidding yourselves if you think they won't and you keep denying what is going on right in front of you.  AG Barr has more morals in a finger than that loser Adam Schiff. 

Below is a story from the Washington Sentinal regarding General Flynn.

"Evidence is piling up that federal prosecutors committed serious prosecutorial misconduct in their attempt to put Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn in jail. And a new filing by Flynn’s attorney, Sidney Powell, highlights some very troubling actions by the federal government in both his and his former business partner’s cases.

On September 30, Powell filed her latest supplemental status report summarizing the acquittal of Flynn’s former business partner, Bijan Rafiekian.

Last week, the federal judge in Rafiekian’s case acquitted the man on all counts and said that the government utterly failed to prove its case.

Judge Anthony Trenga, of the Eastern District of Virginia, threw out Rafiekian’s convictions on violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act for work reportedly done on behalf of Turkey. Trenga said that there was insufficient evidence to sustain the convictions.

 “The evidence was insufficient as a matter of law for the jury to convict Rafiekian on either count,” Judge Trenga wrote in his opinion. The judge added that a new trial may be warranted “in the interest of justice should the Court’s judgment of acquittal be later vacated or reversed.”

Rafiekian and Flynn worked together in Flynn’s now dissolved Flynn Intel Group before Flynn joined President Donald Trump’s administration.

Judge Trenga ruled that there was no evidence whatever that Rafiekian knowingly broke the law by filing false papers to register as a lobbyist for a foreign government. This finding has direct bearing on Flynn’s own case as one of the chief accusations against him is that he knowingly lied about working for a foreign government.

Powell’s Sept. 30 filing points out all the misconduct engaged in by the prosecutors in the Flynn case, especially in light of the Rafiekian ruling.

Powell notes that Flynn had lived up to his agreement with the government to offer full cooperation in the Rafiekian case, and that prosecutors wanted him to testify that he and Rafiekian knowingly signed a false FARA registration. But Flynn had already told the government that he did not file false FARA paperwork and that he could not lie in court that he and Rafiekian did such a thing.

That is when the government broke the agreement and barred Flynn from testifying in the Rafiekian case. This is an admission that their whole point (the false FARA issue) was the crux of their case and now that Judge Trenga has found that Rafiekian did not file a false FARA, the charges against Flynn is also untenable.

In her filing, Powell notes that they have the paper tail to prove this: “In our endless document review, we now have a draft of the statement of offense that proves the contrary, showing similar language deleted,” Powell says.

In that statement, Flynn said directly that he does not agree that he filed a false FARA, yet the government’s main case went forward as if he DID agree to this claim.

Worse, Powell shows that the government then used threats of prosecuting Flynn’s son as a weapon of intimidation to force the general’s acquiescence to the government’s desires. Powell notes that Flynn steadfastly refused to agree that he filed a false FARA, and in response the prosecutors turned on his agreement and charged him as a co-conspirator (with Rafiekian who has now been acquitted).

Powell is steadily building a mountain of evidence that the government abused its powers and prosecutors perpetrated serious misconduct during its investigation and prosecution of both Flynn and Rafiekian”.

 

@napacat posted:

Below is a story from the Washington Sentinal (sic) regarding General Flynn.

If you want to know how Trump gets away with half the shit he does with his mindless base is because people like this asshole get their information from the closest thing the US has to state-run media. The Washington Sentinel and the Washington Times are to news outlets as what the Washington Generals are to sports.

@The Old Man posted:

If you want to know how Trump gets away with half the shit he does with his mindless base is because people like this asshole get their information from the closest thing the US has to state-run media. The Washington Sentinel and the Washington Times are to news outlets as what the Washington Generals are to sports.

The fact that Napa even reads the Washington Sentinel, much less quotes it and relies on it as a news source, speaks volumes. 

@The Old Man posted:

Wow what a searing come back. As pointed out we have lost the respect of our allies while our president fawns over dictators and despots.

Who cares? 

The US dollar is the global reserve currency and the US has the largest economy in the world. 

Trump's tweeting and general buffoonery is changing neither of those things.  The US is not in danger, nor will it suffer mightily, even if (when) Trump is reelected.  The respect of its allies, whatever the hell that means, is unimportant and irrelevant because of the US' economic importance.  

@csm posted:

Who cares? 

The US dollar is the global reserve currency and the US has the largest economy in the world. 

Trump's tweeting and general buffoonery is changing neither of those things.  The US is not in danger, nor will it suffer mightily, even if (when) Trump is reelected.  The respect of its allies, whatever the hell that means, is unimportant and irrelevant because of the US' economic importance.  

"general buffoonery" isn't that cute? He just kids when he mocks the disabled, insults war heroes while pardoning war criminals, calls neo-Nazis "fine people", tries to blackmail foreign governments in dirtying up political opponents, entourages his band of yay-hoo followers to violate the Coronavirus recommendations from his OWN administration, muses about injecting household cleaners, and, and, and...But he's just some lovable, misunderstood, funny man. Ha ha.

csm, thinks this is actually the president. trumpy bear with certificate

All soft and comfy and just rolling in hilarity and buffoonery. To our asshole troll, get them while they're hot, you can hung him all day. I think I can write the ad copy.

"When I hug Trumpy Bear he makes me feel safe from all those black and brown people who think they're my equal. I give him a squeeze and think of how good he makes me feel knowing he'll also protect me from Asians, Muslims and anyone else who isn't like me. And I know Trumpy Bear will protect me most from uppity "nasty" women who should be home, cooking dinner like the housewives of the past. And when they're not doing housework you make me feel it's OK to grab anyone of them I like by the pussy. Trumpy Bear, I just love you and so does Kim Jong-il."

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@csm posted:

Who cares? 

The US dollar is the global reserve currency and the US has the largest economy in the world. 

Trump's tweeting and general buffoonery is changing neither of those things.  The US is not in danger, nor will it suffer mightily, even if (when) Trump is reelected.  The respect of its allies, whatever the hell that means, is unimportant and irrelevant because of the US' economic importance.  

Wow.  With respect, it's not all about the economy, though with the US pulling out of or undermining almost all its trade partnerships it will soon be seen that that too is a mistake.  Like I said above, the US is not able to thrive and grow on its own, whether it is the largest economy and holds the global reserve currency or not.  It's inability to bend China to its will, trade-wise, along with other countries, is proof of that.  Trump tried to block the shipment of masks to Canada until we noted that one of the key ingredients of those masks comes from BC and cannot be easily or quickly sourced from the US.  Guess what?  We got our masks PDQ!  Just one example of American reliance on the interconnectedness of the global supply change where being the biggest economy doesn't matter.

But what I was mostly referring to was something else.  There is probably no reason for you to know this but there is a group called the Five Eyes, along with the Five Country Conference and other similar groups composed of the five major English-speaking countries who share intelligence with each other to make each country safe.  I know, because I participated in a couple of these groups back in the day. 

While the US has great intel they don't know everything that all the other countries know.  In fact some sub-groups now include lots of other democratic countries.  But going back to the time Trump revealed classified info to the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office a few years back, and perhaps before that, no one trusts the US to keep its secrets any more.  So some vitally important intel is no doubt not reaching the US because of this loss of trust.  And not just in the security area but in many other areas too, I'm sure.  There are dozens of multilateral groups of working-level public servants from all sorts of countries in all sorts of areas:  agriculture, law of the sea, and yes, health.  And thanks to Trump and some of his senior appointed officials, others no longer are inclined to share everything they know with the US.   

So revel in your status as the biggest economy and holder of the global reserve currency - though that too will eventually change as all empires eventually fail, after all - while virtually every area of American public policy suffers because of Trump and the people he puts in key positions based on loyalty to him rather than competence. 

@The Old Man posted:

"general buffoonery" isn't that cute? He just kids when he mocks the disabled, insults war heroes while pardoning war criminals, calls neo-Nazis "fine people", tries to blackmail foreign governments in dirtying up political opponents, entourages his band of yay-hoo followers to violate the Coronavirus recommendations from his OWN administration, muses about injecting household cleaners, and, and, and...But he's just some lovable, misunderstood, funny man. Ha ha.

csm, thinks this is actually the president. trumpy bear with certificate

All soft and comfy and just rolling in hilarity and buffoonery. To our asshole troll, get them while they're hot, you can hung him all day. I think I can write the ad copy.

"When I hug Trumpy Bear he makes me feel safe from all those black and brown people who think they're my equal. I give him a squeeze and think of how good he makes me feel knowing he'll also protect me from Asians, Muslims and anyone else who isn't like me. And I know Trumpy Bear will protect me most from uppity "nasty" women who should be home, cooking dinner like the housewives of the past. And when they're not doing housework you make me feel it's OK to grab anyone of them I like by the pussy. Trumpy Bear, I just love you and so does Kim Jong-il."

For an old man you sure act like a child. Resorting to name calling like usual. Maybe that’s why you don’t like Donny. He’s Just like you.

Nothing in that rambling post came close to resembling a coherent thought. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

Every president has womanized (maybe not either of the Bushes) and pardoned criminals and gotten in bed with dictators and despots. Ever hear of Saudi Arabia?  

Finally, Trump didn’t call neo-Nazis fine people.  

@bman posted:  So revel in your status as the biggest economy and holder of the global reserve currency - though that too will eventually change as all empires eventually fail, after all - while virtually every area of American public policy suffers because of Trump and the people he puts in key positions based on loyalty to him rather than competence. 

Maybe it will maybe it won’t.  I’d wager it doesn’t though.  And the fact that you think any politician, Trump or otherwise, appoints anyone to any position because of competence, or for a reason other than loyalty is laugh out loud funny.  

You just stood there screaming
Fearing no one was listening to you
They say the empty can rattles the most
The sound of your own voice must suit you
Hearing only what you want to hear
And knowing only what you've heard
You, you're smothered in tragedy
And you're off to save the world
Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery
You still stood there screaming
No one caring about these words you tell
My friend before your voice is gone
One man's fun is another's hell
These times are sent to try men's souls
But something's wrong with all you see
You, you'll take it on all yourself
Remember, misery loves company
Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery, my friend of misery
You just stood there screaming
My friend of misery
Misery
You insist that the weight of the world
Should be on your shoulders
Misery
There's much more to life than what you see
My friend of misery, my friend of misery
You just stood there screaming
My friend of misery
@csm posted:

Finally, Trump didn’t call neo-Nazis fine people.  

In 2017 incidences of anti-Semitism rose at the steepest level since the Anti-Defamation League started tracking it. That number has continued to climb in the last two-and-a-half years leading to incidences such as 11 Jews slaughtered in Temple in Pittsburgh and 1 killed 30 miles away from me at a fellow synagogue. Hmm, now what coincided with 2017 and has continued for the last 3 years? You'd have to be a fucking idiot  not to recognize  the sick hate speech  that comes out of this awful person.

You have a president who never came out until way after saying that he was condemning white supremacists. He doesn't want to, because anyone who admires him is okey-doke with him. What kind of bar is set when you can't forcefully reject neo-Nazis? And I've already explained this before. He said there were "fine people on both sides." So let's say you're a fine person with a fine cause and you decide to go down and march. And a bunch of the people in your march are wearing wearing swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia. Why earth would you get in line and march with them, no matter how wonderful your cause?  What a pathetic excuse.

Myself, and the majority of Jews, who are certainly the most demagogued people in history, know a demagogue when we see one. We know code, we know insinuation, and we see right through this poor excuse for a man. So go screw yourself and your "Chosen One." (remember when they used to mock Obama as our "Messiah"? I don't remember him ever actually saying anything like this putz as he looked to the heavens. You certainly can pick them.

Over and out.

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@The Old Man posted:

In 2017 incidences of anti-Semitism rose at the steepest level since the Anti-Defamation League started tracking it. That number has continued to climb in the last two-and-a-half years leading to incidences such as 11 Jews slaughtered in Temple in Pittsburgh and 1 killed 30 miles away from me at a fellow synagogue. Hum, now what coincided with 2017 and has continued for the last 3 years? You'd have to be a fucking idiot  not to recognize  the sick hate speech  that comes out of this awful person.

You have a president who never came out until way after saying that he was condemning white supremacists. He doesn't want to, because anyone who admires him is okey-doke with him. And I've already explained this before . He said there were fine people on both sides. Let's say you're a fine person with a fine cause and you decide to go down and march. And a bunch of the people in your march are wearing wearing swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia . Why earth would you get in line and march with them, no matter how wonderful your cause?  What a pathetic excuse.

Myself, and the majority of Jews, who are certainly is a most demagogue people in history, know a demagogue when we see one. We know code, we know insinuation, and we see right through this poor excuse for a man. So go screw yourself and your "Chosen One." (remember when they used to mock Obama as our "Messiah"? I don't remember him ever actually saying anything like this putz as he looked to the heavens. You certainly can pick them.

Over and out.

TOM has certainly voiced basically my response.  Anyone who can look at what is happening in our government and trying to state that it is within any realm of acceptable - well I don't know what to say anymore.

Yes, I am a liberal Jewish person.  I wrote one of the recount lawsuits in the 2000 presidential elections and worked very hard to try to prevent the W presidency from ever occurring but nothing (and that includes trumped up wars that were fought) that took place then threatened our country like what has happened in the last few years.  At least the people behind W were not complete morons (despite the fact that I disagreed with them about everything).  And the fact that I disagreed with them, did not mean they were willing to sell out the Country for their own ends.  That cannot be said for the current administration - which I also told everyone before the 2016 election as I have the misfortune of having to spent a number of years personally dealing with Trump.

Anyone who rationalizes or normalizes what it going on in Washington now will ultimately bear responsibility if things continue to spiral downwards.

Thank you. In this case the "cancer on the presidency" is the president.

( Numbers show around 80% of Jews do not vote Republican and also do not support Trump. The 20% mostly come from the Orthodox, which doesn't mean they should be discounted, but many of them are really one issue voters. The greatest concentration of Orthodox Jews in the US is New York City. Regardless of that the entire city rejected Trump in 2016 because they knew him all too well.)

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@csm posted:

And the fact that you think any politician, Trump or otherwise, appoints anyone to any position because of competence, or for a reason other than loyalty is laugh out loud funny.  

Read Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin, and get back to us.  

There are countless other examples, but I'll let Lincoln's remarkable appointments of William Seward (Secretary of State),  Salmon Chase (Secretary of the Treasury) and Edward Bates (Attorney General) serve to rebut your ridiculous assertion above.

Not only were they competent, they all disliked Lincoln immensely.  

Here's a list of "across party line" appointments by both Republican and Democratic Presidents in case you need more data.  Click..... 

PH

@purplehaze posted:

Read Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin, and get back to us.  

There are countless other examples, but I'll let Lincoln's remarkable appointments of William Seward (Secretary of State),  Salmon Chase (Secretary of the Treasury) and Edward Bates (Attorney General) serve to rebut your ridiculous assertion above.

Not only were they competent, they all disliked Lincoln immensely.  

Here's a list of "across party line" appointments by both Republican and Democratic Presidents in case you need more data.  Click..... 

PH

Stop with the facts already. They know the truth from Fox News, OAN, Alex Jones and don't forget the Washington Sentinel (whatever the hell that is. Try and even find it online.) I thought it was common knowledge about the diverse cabinets that many presidents have engaged. Trump, Mr. Businessman, can't even keep most of his cabinet members more than six months. It's all right here in this fake news from this fake news site. Trump Has Now Had More Cabinet Turnover Than Reagan, Obama and the Two Bushes. Of course all the numbers are fake because no president can possibly be this incompetent and still be admired for bringing his business experience to the White House.What CEO would not have been booted a long time ago?

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@The Old Man posted:

In 2017 incidences of anti-Semitism rose at the steepest level since the Anti-Defamation League started tracking it. That number has continued to climb in the last two-and-a-half years leading to incidences such as 11 Jews slaughtered in Temple in Pittsburgh and 1 killed 30 miles away from me at a fellow synagogue. Hmm, now what coincided with 2017 and has continued for the last 3 years? You'd have to be a fucking idiot  not to recognize  the sick hate speech  that comes out of this awful person.

You have a president who never came out until way after saying that he was condemning white supremacists. He doesn't want to, because anyone who admires him is okey-doke with him. What kind of bar is set when you can't forcefully reject neo-Nazis? And I've already explained this before. He said there were "fine people on both sides." So let's say you're a fine person with a fine cause and you decide to go down and march. And a bunch of the people in your march are wearing wearing swastikas and other Nazi paraphernalia. Why earth would you get in line and march with them, no matter how wonderful your cause?  What a pathetic excuse.

Myself, and the majority of Jews, who are certainly the most demagogued people in history, know a demagogue when we see one. We know code, we know insinuation, and we see right through this poor excuse for a man. So go screw yourself and your "Chosen One." (remember when they used to mock Obama as our "Messiah"? I don't remember him ever actually saying anything like this putz as he looked to the heavens. You certainly can pick them.

Over and out.

For the record, my wife is Jewish. My son is Jewish. My ex-wife is Jewish.  I assumed you were referring to the Charlottesville incident (wife also is a Wahoo) where Trump has, wrongly in my opinion, been credited with calling the Neo-Nazi scum that were there “fine people”. I’ve listened to the whole speech. I don’t think that’s what he said.  

I’m also not defending Trump. I can’t stand him. I just think it’s counterproductive to go beyond his actual words.  You don’t need to embellish. His actual words are more than enough.

Your citing of all of the facts you did are nothing more than a red herring.  I said nothing of the rise in anti-Semitism. Or the massacre in Pittsburgh (victims lived in my in-laws’ community in Florida for what it is worth).  I was referring to one specific incident. Anyway, keep calling names and making assumptions.  It’s really all you do well.

Fucking idiot over and out. I’m going to go grab my Trump bear and screw myself. Like the putz I am. 

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