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From the NY Times: "On March 30, the Republican id burst forth when President Trump said that the latest congressional stimulus bill 'had things — levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again." Two days later, the Republican House speaker in Georgia, David Ralston, admitted that an expansion of absentee voting would be 'extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives in Georgia.'”

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@bman posted:

Why do you see him as a hero?

Because he is trying to provide some rationale in regards to people's constitutional rights in a time when some politicians are going overboard in restricting rights.  He is not saying that some restrictions are unnecessary, he is saying that some of the restrictions may interfere with people's rights, such as the right to practice their religion.

@thistlintom posted:

Because he is trying to provide some rationale in regards to people's constitutional rights in a time when some politicians are going overboard in restricting rights.  He is not saying that some restrictions are unnecessary, he is saying that some of the restrictions may interfere with people's rights, such as the right to practice their religion.

Isn't the right to life the ultimate constitutional right?

 

@bman posted:

Isn't the right to life the ultimate constitutional right?

 

So you are ok with trampling every constitutional right in order to do what you think is saving other people's lives?  so it was ok when China boarded up people in their homes to protect their lives?  Do you not see there is room for moderation, and not absolutism? Barr is asking for a balanced view and concern for people's constitutional rights when considering prevention of people being in public, eliminating commerce and such.

@thistlintom posted:

So you are ok with trampling every constitutional right in order to do what you think is saving other people's lives?  so it was ok when China boarded up people in their homes to protect their lives?  Do you not see there is room for moderation, and not absolutism? Barr is asking for a balanced view and concern for people's constitutional rights when considering prevention of people being in public, eliminating commerce and such.

Pretty sure there are still a few constitutional rights left untrampled but since you asked, yes, I would be fine with restrictions on the right to congregate to protect the right to not die because a bunch of ignorant Neanderthals wanted to do so. I am also alright with following the unanimous advice of medical professionals who say these measures are necessary. I agree that some restrictions go too far but overall they are necessary and all Barr is doing is encouraging people to defy lawful orders of their governors. How does that align with his role as the nation's top law officer?  

@bman posted:

 I agree that some restrictions go too far but overall they are necessary and all Barr is doing is encouraging people to defy lawful orders of their governors. How does that align with his role as the nation's top law officer?  

Well his boss reads about the four-step plan to reopen the government and within days he's encouraging people to violate his OWN guidelines. This is responsible governance? You're either a responsible member of society or your not.

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@The Old Man posted:

Well his boss reads about the four-step plan to reopen the government and within days he's encouraging people to violate his OWN guidelines. This is responsible governance? 

It's not governance of any kind and illustrates perfectly why Trump is unfit to hold any responsible elected office. Confusion and chaos reign became he is incapable of forming plans or strategies or taking advice from the experts in place to give it to him, usually people he put there in the first place.  What he says and does seems based on what whoever he last spoke to tells him. And of course as long as it aligns with his self-interest above all else. 

@The Old Man posted:

"Trump Says He Told Navy to ‘Shoot Down’ Iranian Boats, as Tehran Launches Military Satellite"

Er, OK.

Are you talking about the same bloated buffoon who said yesterday that he has had over 100 governors call him? 100. The same idiot that said America controlled the skies with our air force to help win the American Revolution? The same POS that just fired our Vaccine Director Dr. Bright because he wouldn’t promote Trump’s coronavirus treatments he was touting?  

Of which reports are starting to come in that they don't seem to make a difference and can do harm? The one who just now said that there is a chance Covid 19 won't return in the fall right before Dr. Fauci said we will definitely have it in the fall. But yeah, Republican Governors open it up. And you Trump supporters get right out there  and go to pool halls and nail salons and be sure to get your haircut. Maybe thousands more dead is it what it will take for people like Nappy and his ilk to wake up.

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@The Old Man posted:

Evidence suggests that ejaculation frequency may be inversely related to the risk of prostate cancer

Or to be clearer, more sex and masturbation (good news for those who are socially distancing) helps reduce the rate of prostate cancer. Gentlemen, get to work!

I think what you typed is good news for me, but I can't tell because my vision is fading.

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