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bman posted:

napacat posted:

The post was a relatively simple post about hypocrisy.  You can google for yourself the myriad of stories related to Air-con and global warming.  

You folks are a large group of  inhospitable forumites sitting behind your computers ready to pounce on folks.  No wonder there is no influx of any new people to make it interesting.  

Not much left to read but pitiful topics (what's for dinner...what's for lunch) with ridiculous responses.  What is one to do when a reply is "grilled sausage and peppers" or "Taters".  

Christ...there are people with different views than yours...how about engaging them and finding out why without personal attacks (I'm guilty of as well).  And with the people on here, I am sure some incredibly interesting stories in their life...none of that takes place here. 

 

 

So you just made up the thing about air conditioning. Not at all surprised. You initiate a conversation, tell a lie in an effort to prove your point, and when you are asked to substantiate it you curl up in a fetal position and plead for understanding. If this place is so horrible and unfair to you feel free to leave. 

Nothing was made up...google it.  Plenty of stories.  It really is a simple premise....a champion for Global Warming / Climate change, whatever else you want to call it, loves to keep the AC in a hotel room at 60.  That's just hypocrisy. That is just the opposite of what he should be doing, if he believes in the man-made aspect of global warming.

How do you not see that?  Not curling up in any fetal position.  I am happy to debate the general nonsense liberals preach any day.    Including this mass hysteria to the corona virus.  

Does mass hysteria include your boy declaring it a national emergency?

You understand that if the outside temp is lower than 60f then the air conditioning is not on right? In fact using less heating reduces CO2 emissions. 

Doing the math, a 4 tonne chiller (more than big enough to cool a large ballroom) cooling a room to 60f when it's 80f outside uses about 1kwh per day. If it's natural gas sourced electricity then that equates to just under 1lbs of CO2 per day for the AC. 

On the other hand a 747 like Air Force One creates 53lbs of CO2 PER MILE. How many golf trips has trump used Air Force One for? 

Fact drop.

robsutherland posted:

You understand that if the outside temp is lower than 60f then the air conditioning is not on right? In fact using less heating reduces CO2 emissions. 

Doing the math, a 4 tonne chiller (more than big enough to cool a large ballroom) cooling a room to 60f when it's 80f outside uses about 1kwh per day. If it's natural gas sourced electricity then that equates to just under 1lbs of CO2 per day for the AC. 

On the other hand a 747 like Air Force One creates 53lbs of CO2 PER MILE. How many golf trips has trump used Air Force One for? 

Just wow!  I don’t think he said he likes it at 60 only in the winter months.  What’s wrong with you people.  Drink more wine or something.  

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

Even assuming that he spends 100 days in 90 degree weather, and the rest at 80 degrees he'd be on the hook for about 850 lbs of CO2. And that's in totality, not just the difference between 60f and 72f.

850lbs of CO2

A 747 flying one way from DC to Palm Beach creates 43,400lbs of CO2. That doesn't include the return, the carpools, Trump's AC, the electricity for his golf carts, or anything else.

43,400lbs of CO2. 

By my calculations a weekend of trump golfing is equal 100 years or so of Sanders' AC usage in terms of greenhouse gas. 

If you bring up air conditioning again you're a moron. 

robsutherland posted:

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

Even assuming that he spends 100 days in 90 degree weather, and the rest at 80 degrees he'd be on the hook for about 850 lbs of CO2. And that's in totality, not just the difference between 60f and 72f.

850lbs of CO2

A 747 flying one way from DC to Palm Beach creates 43,400lbs of CO2. That doesn't include the return, the carpools, Trump's AC, the electricity for his golf carts, or anything else.

43,400lbs of CO2. 

By my calculations a weekend of trump golfing is equal 100 years or so of Sanders' AC usage in terms of greenhouse gas. 

If you bring up air conditioning again you're a moron. 

Well said.

Nevertheless, I’m sure some of that passion in your post is related to the results of the DRC lcbo lottery this year.

robsutherland posted:

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

 

Yep, but you can't really blame him, tho', look at all the attention he gets here.  My guess is just about anyone in his life ignores him, discounts his opinions, cheated on him repeatedly, or he has some other deeply ingrained scar of being ignored as a baby, a young man, or feels a lack of respect as the boy-child he has become.  The attention is something he revels in and fulfills a basic need he doesn't find in any other place.    More bluntly, he's a fucking moron. 

However, its not amusing that there are millions like him who cannot identify ineptitude and stupidity on such a glaringly obvious level, and would back such a self serving ignorant fool again for reelection as president of our United States.  George Carlin said it best....think of how stupid the average person is, and half the people are stupider than that.

jabe11 posted:

robsutherland posted:

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

 

Yep, but you can't really blame him, tho', look at all the attention he gets here.  My guess is just about anyone in his life ignores him, discounts his opinions, cheated on him repeatedly, or he has some other deeply ingrained scar of being ignored as a baby, a young man, or feels a lack of respect as the boy-child he has become.  The attention is something he revels in and fulfills a basic need he doesn't find in any other place.    More bluntly, he's a fucking moron. 

However, its not amusing that there are millions like him who cannot identify ineptitude and stupidity on such a glaringly obvious level, and would back such a self serving ignorant fool again for reelection as president of our United States.  George Carlin said it best....think of how stupid the average person is, and half the people are stupider than that.

Ironically, almost everything you say also applies to his hero, The Orange Menace. 

mimik posted:

robsutherland posted:

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

Even assuming that he spends 100 days in 90 degree weather, and the rest at 80 degrees he'd be on the hook for about 850 lbs of CO2. And that's in totality, not just the difference between 60f and 72f.

850lbs of CO2

A 747 flying one way from DC to Palm Beach creates 43,400lbs of CO2. That doesn't include the return, the carpools, Trump's AC, the electricity for his golf carts, or anything else.

43,400lbs of CO2. 

By my calculations a weekend of trump golfing is equal 100 years or so of Sanders' AC usage in terms of greenhouse gas. 

If you bring up air conditioning again you're a moron. 

Well said.

Nevertheless, I’m sure some of that passion in your post is related to the results of the DRC lcbo lottery this year.

Undoubtedly. Also because I'm "working from home" for the indefinite future so have time on my hands. Corona may be good for the health of this forum! 

robsutherland posted:

You really are a special kind of troll ain't ya. 

Even assuming that he spends 100 days in 90 degree weather, and the rest at 80 degrees he'd be on the hook for about 850 lbs of CO2. And that's in totality, not just the difference between 60f and 72f.

850lbs of CO2

A 747 flying one way from DC to Palm Beach creates 43,400lbs of CO2. That doesn't include the return, the carpools, Trump's AC, the electricity for his golf carts, or anything else.

43,400lbs of CO2. 

By my calculations a weekend of trump golfing is equal 100 years or so of Sanders' AC usage in terms of greenhouse gas. 

If you bring up air conditioning again you're a moron. 

It was not a question of who creates more CO2...but continue to find a way to justify the hypocrisy...carry on

napacat posted:

It was not a question of who creates more CO2...but continue to find a way to justify the hypocrisy...carry on

Tell us how you justify the rampant hypocrisy of Putin’s Bitch and his minions, please.

Eiza Gonzalez is gorgeous. 

From the clock’s perspective, its hands go counterclockwise. 

vint posted:

From the clock’s perspective, its hands go counterclockwise. 

Bravo!

Oh it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen;
my father he was orange and my mother she was green.

Another mean article from the mainstream NY Times daring to quote the presidents own words. What a low blow:

Trump Now Claims He Always Knew the Coronavirus Would Be a Pandemic: The president tried to rewrite his history with advising Americans about the coronavirus. His own words prove him wrong.

And you know for his supporters, which really are starting to resemble a cult, it makes absolutely no difference.

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I hope that companies look seriously at whether they do any business with China.  The government has shown that they cannot be trusted at all and past history has shown that Chinese companies will steal our technology.  China is not a true business partner to the world and should be isolated from the world.  To think that we are dependant on China for manufacturing necessary pharmaceuticals is scary.

thistlintom posted:

I hope that companies look seriously at whether they do any business with China.  The government has shown that they cannot be trusted at all and past history has shown that Chinese companies will steal our technology.  China is not a true business partner to the world and should be isolated from the world.  To think that we are dependant on China for manufacturing necessary pharmaceuticals is scary.

I support engagement with China, but with a somewhat adversarial stance.  Problem is, the way really to have the type of impact you are hoping for, Tom, is to engage in robust free and fair trade with the rest of the world.  Someone is going to be leading the world -- us or China -- through trade.  If we want it to be us, we need to eliminate all these new tariffs on our allies immediately, and look to further expand our trade and supply chains -- especially with SE Asia.

I would rather my $1k goes to covid-19 test development and production.

winetarelli posted:

I support engagement with China, but with a somewhat adversarial stance.  Problem is, the way really to have the type of impact you are hoping for, Tom, is to engage in robust free and fair trade with the rest of the world.  Someone is going to be leading the world -- us or China -- through trade.  If we want it to be us, we need to eliminate all these new tariffs on our allies immediately, and look to further expand our trade and supply chains -- especially with SE Asia.

I agree, we should change our stance on trade with other countries, especially during this pandemic.  

thistlintom posted:

winetarelli posted:

I support engagement with China, but with a somewhat adversarial stance.  Problem is, the way really to have the type of impact you are hoping for, Tom, is to engage in robust free and fair trade with the rest of the world.  Someone is going to be leading the world -- us or China -- through trade.  If we want it to be us, we need to eliminate all these new tariffs on our allies immediately, and look to further expand our trade and supply chains -- especially with SE Asia.

I agree, we should change our stance on trade with other countries, especially during this pandemic.  

All while we owe China over one trillion dollars... 

jabe11 posted:

I would rather my $1k goes to covid-19 test development and production.

and pay another $1K when the covid-19 test kit comes out.  

The rest of the world has plenty of test kits. But they're not owned by US Big Pharma.

mneeley490 posted:

The rest of the world has plenty of test kits. But they're not owned by US Big Pharma.

I believe the CDC tried to control the initial development of the tests and fared poorly.  Not the fault of private companies

"Hell is the truth learned too late." -- Thomas Hobbes

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One would hope with everything shut down we can get back to talking about wine. If you aren't depleting your cellar now, you never will

bomba503 posted:

One would hope with everything shut down we can get back to talking about wine. If you aren't depleting your cellar now, you never will

We've been drinking wine almost every night, which we used to reserve for Thursday-Saturday for the most part. 

Kids don't have to be up super early to get ready for school, work has been extremely quiet, and why the hell shouldn't we … Plus it makes listening to the Orange moron just a bit more palatable. 

My fortune cookie said "Negative".  Not sure if it meant my portfolio or whether I had the virus.  Or maybe both.

Posted by patespo1:

Plus it makes listening to the Orange moron just a bit more palatable...

Palatable...  Hmm.

I don't know when it happened, but somewhere around 6 months or so ago I developed a Pavlovian "avoid" reaction every time I either heard or saw the moron.  I was impressed by my reaction times.  I could hit mute or close a tab within a word or two.  Very good for my disposition.

If 45 is alleged to have said something "noteworthy," I'll read it as when it's published.  I am past looking at or listening to him.  

PH

all courts in Maryland now closed through April.  We can still file things electronically. But, 2 trials of mine are zapped.  They say "the wheels of justice turn slowly."  Now, they aren't turning at all.  Arghhh.

Sunnylea57 is awesome. 

billhike posted:

Sunnylea57 is awesome. 

What a great turnout last night. steve8 said some people were still going after 1 AM when he finally logged out.

sunnylea57 posted:

billhike posted:

Sunnylea57 is awesome. 

What a great turnout last night. steve8 said some people were still going after 1 AM when he finally logged out.

Thanks all - it was fun and nice to see/hear some folks I have not spoken to in a long time - anyway Stef was on screen the most while I was tending to a moping dog

bomba503 posted:

One would hope with everything shut down we can get back to talking about wine. If you aren't depleting your cellar now, you never will

Working on it!  Finding a lot of "lost" bottles

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